Keto and alcohol?

**dom996** · 02-12-2008, 11:35 PM

Quick question. Given that alcohol is supposed to be mostly empty calories. If I did keto and drank a couple of nights a week, would I still go into ketosis?

**chimponarope** · 02-13-2008, 12:53 AM

Yes if it had no carbs BUT you'd not burn any fat until your body processed it. Save it for the carb up.

**BeejGrpA** · 02-13-2008, 05:28 AM

alcohol isnt really an empty calorie. infact for every gram of alcohol there are 7 calories, and whilst its in ur system, everything else stops until ur body has rid itself of it

**bleedingtraps** · 02-13-2008, 06:05 AM

This has been asked numerous times, and although I've slipped up in the past...your best bet is to avoid it completely. You'll feel better, and lose fat quicker.

**Ingersoll** · 02-13-2008, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by BeejGrpA

alcohol isnt really an empty calorie. infact for every gram of alcohol there are 7 calories, and whilst its in ur system, everything else stops until ur body has rid itself of it

Yep.

I can get away with drinking while on keto about once every ten days to two weeks without stalling results. Any more than that and it seems to ruin the whole program. Like others have said, just stay away from booze while doing this type of diet.

I don't see how anyone could expect to have drinks a couople of times a week yet still improve their health. It's like scratching up your car with a fork in order to improve the paint job.

**Autino** · 02-13-2008, 08:32 AM

Yes, drinking alcohal can and will kick you out of ketosis.
It will also add a bunch of unwanted calories to your diet, and reek havok on your body.

Drinking is not healthy!
Also, if you have to ask that questions about alcohal you really should reconsider either 1 of 2 things:

1. drinking as much as you do
2. living a healthy lifestyle

The 2 do not go along with one another.

Sounds like you need to make a choice, and the fact that you are seeking out help here means that this is a struggle for you.
It lets us know how important drinking is to you, and how much you are potentialy willing to sacrafice to keep drinking.

Why not go in to a bar and ask them how they feel about you doing the keto diet, and whether it will interfer with your ability to get drunk or not? doesnt make much sense right?
Neither does drinking 3 times per week while trying to live a healthy lifestyle.

**bigg_K** · 02-13-2008, 09:17 AM

Yeah don't forget alcohol is a "poison" so your liver will deal with it and try to detox it. Which suspends protein synthesis.

Also about 3 years ago when I was cutting hardcore, someone told me Absolut vodka has no calories, so I drank that straight anytime I'd go out. (I still saw results, hindered but they came) But boy was I wrong on that one lol

Now I basically let most of my friends know where I am at, so yeah I'm that guy that asks for the water. Although I'll drink here and there, very moderately, but only for very special occasions. And I don't mean pounding 5 beers. More like 1 or 2 drinks at max.

Drinking for me outweighs the bad vs the good.

**frivolousz21** · 02-13-2008, 09:34 AM

I drink lightly about 3 days per week.

in 35 days on keto it has probably caused me to lose about 5 lbs less of fat.

which can be alot

**stevenhyu** · 02-13-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by BeejGrpA

alcohol isnt really an empty calorie. infact for every gram of alcohol there are 7 calories, and whilst its in ur system, everything else stops until ur body has rid itself of it

Errr, empty calorie means calories with no real nutritional value which is what alcohol is.

**midnight_maraud3r** · 02-13-2008, 10:30 AM

i have a hard time not drinking myself...it's a struggle for me to make it through a weekend and not get drunk. but just keep in your head...if you've gone this long without it, you can surely do it again, right? plus when you get drunk it's really easy to eat those peanut butter crackers, or pringles, etc...drinking and dieting just don't go together, at all.

**dom996** · 02-13-2008, 01:16 PM

The thing is that I fancy a bit of leaning up but not in a really serious way. Just add some cardio and stuff. What I'm asking is, will alcohol calories kick me out of ketosis or just slow it all down.

Thx.

**BeejGrpA** · 02-13-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Autino

Yes, drinking alcohal can and will kick you out of ketosis.

only if there is sugar in it. otherwise all it acheives is "pausing" ketosis

Originally Posted by stevenhyu

Errr, empty calorie means calories with no real nutritional value which is what alcohol is.

most commonly accepted definition u could find is a food source with no micronutritional value, which can include things like butter, which DO have macronutritional value. personally i always used the term in reference to things that had no macronutritional value or real effect on the metabolic process. broccoli for example is empty coz it often has more fibre than carbs = empty or negative, however it has real micronutritional value. alcohol basically pausing ur system i interpreted as having an effect macronutritionaly and thus not being "emtpy".

i see what u mean tho and i probably should hav clarified what i was saying better. the real issue is though theres no official definition.

**dom996** · 02-14-2008, 06:34 AM

I mostly drink beer and white wine. Will that pause it or stop it?

**Starky1177** · 02-14-2008, 09:21 AM

Beej im going to have to agree with stevenhyu...Alcohol is an empty calorie you get nothing from it...Pop is an Empty calorie as well...Things that are Empty calories are things that you gain nothing from except for calories...Like alcohol, you get no benefit (other than the psychological)...hence an empty calorie

**frivolousz21** · 02-14-2008, 10:11 AM

if you want a drink.

straight whiskey, vodka, bacardi types are fine.

they have no carbs..and will only stall ketosis.

remember:

1. you get drunk way faster on low carb.

2. drink hard liqour with diet coke..but also drink a 8 0z glass of water inbetween..you may have to piss every 20 min or so..but its worth it.

3. do 30 min of extra cardio on the day you will drink..if you burn off 250 calories..that will take care of the 250 calories you injest.

4. dont sit on your ass and drink...drink and stand up..walk around some..be active..party/club/bar...this will help keep your metabolic rate up.

5. HAVE FUN...life is there to have fun.

would I love to have 5 extra lbs of fat loss? HELL YEA..but I also like to have a good time.

if I am losing fat at 80 percent on keto because I have some drinks...thats MUCH BETTER THAN GAINING FAT OR BEING AT ZERO PERCENT BECAUSE IM A LAZY ASS AT HOME.

so I will be ripped on May 1st instead of April 1st so be it..
I am 25 and not getting younger

**dom996** · 02-14-2008, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by frivolousz21

if you want a drink.

straight whiskey, vodka, bacardi types are fine.

they have no carbs..and will only stall ketosis.

remember:

1. you get drunk way faster on low carb.

2. drink hard liqour with diet coke..but also drink a 8 0z glass of water inbetween..you may have to piss every 20 min or so..but its worth it.

3. do 30 min of extra cardio on the day you will drink..if you burn off 250 calories..that will take care of the 250 calories you injest.

4. dont sit on your ass and drink...drink and stand up..walk around some..be active..party/club/bar...this will help keep your metabolic rate up.

5. HAVE FUN...life is there to have fun.

would I love to have 5 extra lbs of fat loss? HELL YEA..but I also like to have a good time.

if I am losing fat at 80 percent on keto because I have some drinks...thats MUCH BETTER THAN GAINING FAT OR BEING AT ZERO PERCENT BECAUSE IM A LAZY ASS AT HOME.

so I will be ripped on May 1st instead of April 1st so be it..
I am 25 and not getting younger

A man after my own heart (yes repped).

So are we saying that beer and wine will take me out of ketosis or not?

**Tulsa28** · 02-14-2008, 01:32 PM

My guess is yes it will kick you out. Wine has a good amount of sugar unless its dry white then I'm not sure,but I know beer has carbs. I mix absolut with water & crystal light and haven't been kicked out yet. Granted this isn't but 1 night a week and I drink plenty of water along with it.

**lfmartinez01** · 02-14-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Tulsa28

My guess is yes it will kick you out. Wine has a good amount of sugar unless its dry white then I'm not sure,but I know beer has carbs. I mix absolut with water & crystal light and haven't been kicked out yet. Granted this isn't but 1 night a week and I drink plenty of water along with it.

OR....

Jack Daniels and 'diet' coke

**dom996** · 02-14-2008, 01:55 PM

So a good 5% beer is a no no, but I might get away with a dry white?

**dom996** · 02-15-2008, 01:12 PM

Anymore answers or are we done?

**Shike** · 02-15-2008, 01:17 PM

From someone who's struggled with drinking for quite a while now, results are without a doubt different when you drink and when you don't. For my body drinking 2x a week pretty much stops progress. You may be different though. I have yet to find that sweet spot where I'm happy with my progress and I can still drink.

**frivolousz21** · 02-15-2008, 01:39 PM

I got pretty rosted last night.

other than being tired as ****...my keto sticks started registering dark purple again about 11 am.
I had 6-7 hard liqour drinks last night

**jked4life** · 02-15-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Shike

From someone who's struggled with drinking for quite a while now, results are without a doubt different when you drink and when you don't. For my body drinking 2x a week pretty much stops progress. You may be different though. I have yet to find that sweet spot where I'm happy with my progress and I can still drink.

I'd agree with this.

It seems if I drink once a week or more, progress pretty much stops. Staying in ketosis or not, it doesn't really matter to my body.

I also would like to find that "sweet spot" but have yet to find it.

**gfundaro** · 02-15-2008, 08:34 PM

Considering that ketones/glucose are produced in the liver, and when you drink your liver will preferentially filter alcohol....it's probably not a good thing to impede upon the only source of energy for your body.

**hooplehead** · 02-16-2008, 07:53 AM

I think I read in a thread in this very forum that says drinking while on Keto is physically dangerous and could potentially kill you if drink enough on a bender. That said, had 6 beers, a shot of tequila and two shots of Jagermeister last night, and was back in ketosis as of 4PM today.

**WaistofSpace** · 03-13-2008, 11:38 AM

Thought I would post this up for you fellow drinkers:

Beer Carbs Calories % Alch Oz/Svg
Accel 2.4g 89 4% 12oz fresh
Amstel Light 5g 95 3.5% 12oz
Aspen Edge 2.6g 94 4.13 12oz
Bud Light 6.6g 110 4.2% 12oz
Bud Select 3.1g 99 4.3% 12oz
Busch Light 6.7g 110 4.2% 12oz
Coastal Light 3.9g 95 3.6% 12oz -
Coors Light 5g 102 4.2% 12oz
Corona Light 5g 105 4.5% 12oz
Edison Light 6.5g 109 4% 12oz -
Guinness 17.6g 194 6% 12oz
I.C. Light 2.9g 96 4.2% 12oz -
Heineken Light 6.8g 99 - 12oz
I.C. Light 2.9g 96 4.2% 12oz -
Keystone Light 5g 104 4.2% 12oz
Labatt Blue Light 8g 111 4% 12oz
Labatt Sterling 2.5g 12oz
Michelob Light 11.7g 134 4.3% 12oz
Michelob Ultra 2.6g 95 4.2% 12oz
Michelob Ultra Amber 3.7g 114 5% 12oz
Mike's Light Lemonade 6g 84 4% 11.2oz
Miller Lite 3.2g 96 4.5% 12oz

Milwaukee's Best Light 3.5g 98 4.5% 12oz
Natural Light 3.2g 95 4.2% 12oz
Rhinebecker Extra 2.5g 106 5% 11.2oz
Rock Green Light 2.6g 92 - 12oz
Sam Adams Light 9.7g 124 - 12oz
San Mig 3.2g 107.6 5% 12oz -
Sleeman Clear 2.5g
Thin Ice 1g 90 4.2% 12oz

**anarchi** · 03-13-2008, 11:43 AM

labatt sterling has 80 cal 2.5 gr carb it isnt bad !

**BeejGrpA** · 03-13-2008, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by hooplehead

I think I read in a thread in this very forum that says drinking while on Keto is physically dangerous and could potentially kill you if drink enough on a bender. That said, had 6 beers, a shot of tequila and two shots of Jagermeister last night, and was back in ketosis as of 4PM today.

i drank on keto not so long ago for a public holiday. got alcohol poisoning........then again i drank faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr too much, since then i've paced myself

**dajsh** · 01-08-2013, 11:46 PM

hey
i am gonna go for camping and will be partying for 3 nights.
i drink only whisky and vodka which do not contain sugar

how can i count calories..do i have to set the calories apart for example daily calories minus alcohol..
and after 2400-500 is equal to 1900
i can apply keto ratios over 1900 calories...

**gabrielsyler** · 01-09-2013, 12:07 AM

3 nights of partying and your only conusming 500 calrories of alcohol each night? what sort of party isnt this?

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