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    Still can't get over how strong arnold and franco were

    Arnold could deadlift over 700 pounds, so it seems logical that around 600 pounds would be his working weight on deadlifts. he could prob do 600 around 8-12 times. unbelievable really.

    Even more amazing is that he did close to a 700 pound deadlift when he was like 17 or something right?

    Even more amazing still is he achieved all this using only Dbol, primo and deca. i dont think i'll ever be as big or as strong as he was even after juicing my face off. this realization is depressing.
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    yea strong dedication but i guess he was also juicing since 15 so its somewhat probable w/ the way he was reported to work out back then and god given strength...
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    Arnold did a rediculous amount of juice.

    Theres a guy who goes to my gym who claims he used to know arnold (I live in santa barbara) and he says arnold used to juice the **** out of himself.
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    Originally Posted by 1987GN View Post
    Arnold did a rediculous amount of juice.

    Theres a guy who goes to my gym who claims he used to know arnold (I live in santa barbara) and he says arnold used to juice the **** out of himself.
    yea ok...
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    He was 19 when he did 710, not 17 lol
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    yea ok...
    well, you do realize venice is only 1.5-2hrs away,right?
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    People can talk and say now Arnold did tons of juice and other meds.

    But the actuality is he still arguably has one of the best, or best, chests and set of arms in bodybuilding.

    And back then they didn't manipulate their bodies with GH And insulin like pros do these days.

    His best bodyparts were built on awesome genetics and alot of hard, long hours in the gym.
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    Originally Posted by LUKEDEICHER View Post
    People can talk and say now Arnold did tons of juice and other meds.

    But the actuality is he still arguably has one of the best, or best, chests and set of arms in bodybuilding.

    And back then they didn't manipulate their bodies with GH And insulin like pros do these days.

    His best bodyparts were built on awesome genetics and alot of hard, long hours in the gym.
    im not saying anything here or there about arnold, just merely making a statement.
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    Originally Posted by LUKEDEICHER View Post
    People can talk and say now Arnold did tons of juice and other meds.

    But the actuality is he still arguably has one of the best, or best, chests and set of arms in bodybuilding.

    And back then they didn't manipulate their bodies with GH And insulin like pros do these days.

    His best bodyparts were built on awesome genetics and alot of hard, long hours in the gym.
    Best Chest yes, best arms, no, sure he had phenomenal biceps but his triceps and forearms were lacking. If you want to talk best arms, Lee Priest takes the cake!
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    Originally Posted by 1987GN View Post
    Arnold did a rediculous amount of juice.

    Theres a guy who goes to my gym who claims he used to know arnold (I live in santa barbara) and he says arnold used to juice the **** out of himself.
    i heard this too.. but im sure ppl on this site alone take a lot more than arnold and are no where near him
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    I've heard a lot of talk about how Arnold must have used ridiculous amounts of AAS. I believe most of it is just that - talk. The amounts and varieties of AAS being used in those days utterly pales in comparison to what is used today. It's another classic example of trying to write off every noteworthy accomplishment in physical development to being nothing more than a matter of drugs. The op got it right when he said that he couldn't ever be as big or as strong as Arnold even after "juicing his face off." It's unfortunate there are so many who refuse to accept this reality.
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    Originally Posted by 1987GN View Post
    Arnold did a rediculous amount of juice.

    Theres a guy who goes to my gym who claims he used to know arnold (I live in santa barbara) and he says arnold used to juice the **** out of himself.
    great source lol
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    Originally Posted by LUKEDEICHER View Post

    His best bodyparts were built on awesome genetics and alot of hard, long hours in the gym.
    Along with being an excellent responder to AAS. I wish I had his genetics + aas response. He definitely had one of the best physiques ever IMO.
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    Well, I'm glad people are no longer pushing the lie that Arnold was weak.

    The reality is, Arnold didn't train for brute strength. He was very fond of supersets, trisets, giant sets, and taking no more than 30 seconds of rest in between sets. Couple that with high reps, and no one is going to be going all out in terms of poundages.

    He was a great athlete.
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    great source lol
    I know 'that guy' too.
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    Originally Posted by Kilburn View Post
    Arnold could deadlift over 700 pounds, so it seems logical that around 600 pounds would be his working weight on deadlifts. he could prob do 600 around 8-12 times. unbelievable really.

    Even more amazing is that he did close to a 700 pound deadlift when he was like 17 or something right?

    Even more amazing still is he achieved all this using only Dbol, primo and deca. i dont think i'll ever be as big or as strong as he was even after juicing my face off. this realization is depressing.
    really? i thought they only took dbol back then
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    ill bet most of those guys juiced insane amounts. ****, they used to think steroids were good for you
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    guis arnie only "used" for contest prep! (my dog told me)
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    We will prolly nevr know how much they used. Perhaps arnold just had a handfull of dbols a day maybe a dozen or so, is that "juicing to the extreme" prolly not by todays standards. Unlike Franco, Arnold never seemed to have gyno issues or water retention to much, so to me that would suggest he didnt heavily use.

    Like I said there is no way for us to know, but one thing im confident of is todays guys use weigh more then they did even if they did use alot.
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    We will prolly nevr know how much they used. Perhaps arnold just had a handfull of dbols a day maybe a dozen or so, is that "juicing to the extreme" prolly not by todays standards. Unlike Franco, Arnold never seemed to have gyno issues or water retention to much, so to me that would suggest he didnt heavily use.

    Like I said there is no way for us to know, but one thing im confident of is todays guys use weigh more then they did even if they did use alot.
    Please less noticeable side effects are not indicative of the dosage used certain people are more susceptible to side effects of medication , so your example is false and idiotic.
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    Originally Posted by coldfusion71 View Post
    Please less noticeable side effects are not indicative of the dosage used certain people are more susceptible to side effects of medication , so your example is false and idiotic.
    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    We will prolly nevr know how much they used. Perhaps arnold just had a handfull of dbols a day maybe a dozen or so, is that "juicing to the extreme" prolly not by todays standards. Unlike Franco, Arnold never seemed to have gyno issues or water retention to much, so to me that would suggest he didnt heavily use.

    Like I said there is no way for us to know, but one thing im confident of is todays guys use weigh more then they did even if they did use alot.

    Get off your ****ing high horse already and jump on someone elses posts.
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    steroids work. steroids were legal back then. steroids were not known to be 'bad'. Go figure.

    Neither Arnold nor franco are considered 'strong' enough to be quoted as strongmen. They were both great bodybuilders though.
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    Originally Posted by FatAzz View Post
    steroids work. steroids were legal back then. steroids were not known to be 'bad'. Go figure.

    Neither Arnold nor franco are considered 'strong' enough to be quoted as strongmen. They were both great bodybuilders though.
    Franco was a strongman..
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    Get off your ****ing high horse already and jump on someone elses posts.
    I am rarely on this board anymore, but every time i read it you do nothing but talk out of your ass make blatantly false statements , and you speak as if you actually know what is going on that is the mystifying part of your persona, you are a know it all that doesn't know ****.
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    Originally Posted by FatAzz View Post
    Neither Arnold nor franco are considered 'strong' enough to be quoted as strongmen. They were both great bodybuilders though.
    Franco was enough of a strongman to break his leg carrying a refrigerator on his back during a strongman competition, so I think he, at least, can certainly be considered 'strong'.
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    I know 'that guy' too.
    Im not saying wether he is credible or not. Other than the fact he claims to live in Venice beach back in the day, he is in his late 50's, and openly talks about roids and has odd stories of him and arnold back in the day.

    I mean, is it really hard to believe that? I've heard stories of pro BBers (guys who have placed in the top 5 in the O) doing E and dancing at strip clubs, and I know the source personally. Is it that hard to believe that arnold juiced a lot?

    I mean, besides warbird00, I live pretty damn close to the original Golds gym. So personally I believe this old fart.
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    Originally Posted by Jean-Paul4447 View Post
    Well, I'm glad people are no longer pushing the lie that Arnold was weak.

    The reality is, Arnold didn't train for brute strength. He was very fond of supersets, trisets, giant sets, and taking no more than 30 seconds of rest in between sets. Couple that with high reps, and no one is going to be going all out in terms of poundages.

    He was a great athlete.
    um, strong ignorance? Arnold and Franco wer famous for using low reps, 4-8, (not for ALL workoing sets but for many) while bb'rs like draper and zane wer famous for using higher reps. ALso, wats with all the talk of arnold? COlumbu was at least AS strong, and prob STRONGER than arnold at most lifts, and he weighed much less.
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    Originally Posted by coldfusion71 View Post
    I am rarely on this board anymore, but every time i read it you do nothing but talk out of your ass make blatantly false statements , and you speak as if you actually know what is going on that is the mystifying part of your persona, you are a know it all that doesn't know ****.
    that's a pretty strong statement you have there my friend.what's the problem between the two of you anyway?i remember your catfights from last year; coldfusion71 vs guardian.time to chill out.
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    Originally Posted by coldfusion71 View Post
    I am rarely on this board anymore, but every time i read it you do nothing but talk out of your ass make blatantly false statements , and you speak as if you actually know what is going on that is the mystifying part of your persona, you are a know it all that doesn't know ****.
    You talk like your smart but you obviously don't know **** about basic english. My post as quoted used the words "suggest" and "prolly never know" do these sound like conclusive words to you?
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    Originally Posted by Guardian View Post
    You talk like your smart but you obviously don't know **** about basic english. My post as quoted used the words "suggest" and "prolly never know" do these sound like conclusive words to you?
    if you continue replying, there'll be another 5 pages of flaming .better not reply to keep things cool.i've seen this in too many threads.
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