Natural Lifter asked if on gear

**PaulJerome** · 04-13-2022, 12:48 PM

Does this happen to you - and if so, do you take offense to this?

As far as I can tell, the signs of being on gear are shoulders that look capped and a larger neck. I am lacking in both departments.

**paulinkansas** · 04-13-2022, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by PaulJerome

Does this happen to you - and if so, do you take offense to this?

As far as I can tell, the signs of being on gear are shoulders that look capped and a larger neck. I am lacking in both departments.

My parents accused me of this in my late teens and early 20's. They are both doctors. My dad said I should not be benching more than 60 pounds when exercising.

**coachcalande** · 04-13-2022, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by PaulJerome

Does this happen to you - and if so, do you take offense to this?

As far as I can tell, the signs of being on gear are shoulders that look capped and a larger neck. I am lacking in both departments.

All the time. It’s as if no natural guys ever stick with it long enough…folks just can’t accept what is actually possible with decades of hard work.

**PaulJerome** · 04-13-2022, 01:11 PM

I think for some, the dividing line is anyone who can lift more or who looks more ripped than them, is clearly on.

I consider it a compliment, but I remember a Chris Jones video where he took offense. Chris has a natural look and is a genetic freak.

**air2fakie** · 04-13-2022, 01:16 PM

IRL I think it'd only be offensive if you ask some DYEL guy if he's on something, since it'd be for mocking purposes.

On the Internet / social media where these Qs/accusations actually happen more frequently, I guess it'd be offensive since you're questioning someone's professional credentials, work ethic, integrity, etc.

**paulinkansas** · 04-13-2022, 01:21 PM

Do I look like I'm on gear? My wife found some gear in a rental property. The guy that left it was about 5'5" and 110 pounds. He wanted it back and said it was from his horse in Mexico.

**PaulJerome** · 04-13-2022, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by paulinkansas

Do I look like I'm on gear? My wife found some gear in a rental property. The guy that left it was about 5'5" and 110 pounds. He wanted it back and said it was from his horse in Mexico.

lol on the horse. No, you do not look like you are on gear but you look song AF.

**usersignup2** · 04-13-2022, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by paulinkansas

My parents accused me of this in my late teens and early 20's. They are both doctors. My dad said I should not be benching more than 60 pounds when exercising.

My condolences on having a pussy for a dad

**PhDPepper1111** · 04-13-2022, 02:47 PM

I would take it as a compliment for sure.
So many whiners that don't believe anyone stronger, more disciplined, or more jacked than them can be natty.

**xTeTe** · 04-13-2022, 04:38 PM

I'd take it as a compliment for sure.

It's funny too when you live a clean, healthy lifestyle when you get older and people swear that you have to be on gear to be jacked in your 40s and 50s. They're just mad their T levels are low because they eat like crap, drink too much and can't stay dedicated... so they have to justify everyone else's success and their failures by saying it has to be gear.

**joewattie** · 04-23-2022, 10:21 AM

It's kind of a "left handed" (can I still say that?) compliment.

On the compliment side you stood out enough to be called out.

On the downside they're thinking that the only way someone like me can progress is to "cheat".

**PhDPepper1111** · 04-25-2022, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by joewattie

It's kind of a "left handed" (can I still say that?) compliment.

On the compliment side you stood out enough to be called out.

On the downside they're thinking that the only way someone like me can progress is to "cheat".

Handist! Burn him!

**joewattie** · 04-26-2022, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111

Handist! Burn him!

<LOL> Got me!

**HannoCometh** · 04-26-2022, 03:38 AM

You mean like this, OP?

But you can get this naturally?

**MrCarrot** · 04-26-2022, 06:44 AM

I used to get this when I went to poverty gyms.

But now I go to a gym where there are legit a lot of people on steroids, it's obvious that I am not.

**user4GBWO6QG1OA** · 05-02-2022, 07:17 PM

i’m 71 people sometimes people give me a look like I must be on something at least testosterone replacement. I am just now starting on having some pea powder mixed with rice powder so that I get more of a complete protein. Plus I am vegan. no dairy cheese, anything animal products. I’ve been working out at Gold’s Gym or World’s Gym since 1978. The manager of Gold’s Kent Kuehn said come on in. I never left. Over the years there were times when I couldn’t find the gyms but the muscles remembered when I got back…Rich

**OldFartTom** · 05-09-2022, 10:53 PM

The exact opposite problem, people can't believe I even train, let alone hard and consistently year after year, an extreme form of the DYEL look.
Sadly this comment isn't false modesty and humour, srs

**PaulJerome** · 05-10-2022, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by OldFartTom

The exact opposite problem, people can't believe I even train, let alone hard and consistently year after year, an extreme form of the DYEL look.
Sadly this comment isn't false modesty and humour, srs

There's looking good with your shirt off and looking good with your shirt on - two different things. If you are lean with shirt off, then I'm sure people will not be confused. Wearing a somewhat baggy shirt, yes people might just think you're skinny. Repped for your tag line.

**smokinal** · 05-10-2022, 04:25 PM

It's a double edged sword
On one hand, I take it as a compliment. People thinking that my condition has to come from help...kinda nice knowing it's natural and from hard work, training knowledge, diet knowledge etc...

Other hand...they're taking away my hard work, training and diet knowledge by accusing/assuming I'm "cheating"

**PhDPepper1111** · 05-23-2022, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by smokinal

It's a double edged sword
On one hand, I take it as a compliment. People thinking that my condition has to come from help...kinda nice knowing it's natural and from hard work, training knowledge, diet knowledge etc...

Other hand...they're taking away my hard work, training and diet knowledge by accusing/assuming I'm "cheating"

Makes sense.
I did get the comment that it looked like I'd used PEDs on one of my videos recently. I chose to focus on the positive, but just like folks saying I'm so strong due to genetics does somewhat discount the discipline and hard work it takes to get there.

**MrCarrot** · 05-30-2022, 05:22 AM

I've seen a few people on gear and the weird thing is, some of them are pretty damn strong and train their back sides off. Then I see others who are in the gym all the time, look like they lift, but they just lift baby ass weights and even have conversations mid-set.

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