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    Scared to squat and deadlift

    I hurt my back deadlifting last year. Recovered, and hurt it again a week later. Went to a trainer, and was told those exercises are for young people. Should I keep doing it? Should I get a trainer or post form videos?

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    Originally Posted by LazerTag View Post
    Went to a trainer, and was told those exercises are for young people.
    Those exercises are only for people 44 years old and younger. How old are you?
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    I assume fakie was being facetious... and anyone who says they're only for young people is a straight up fool.
    You need a different trainer/provider who knows their rear end from their ... other end.
    It may be that you need physical therapy to get to the point you can safely deadlift again etc, but the age thing is just stupid.
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    So trainer or form videos? I’ve been to two trainers so far. One said I was too old or not ready. One said my form looked good, but I don’t trust him. I can deadlift 400lbs at 200lb body weight, but I’m scared to push it…
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    I assume fakie was being facetious
    Hah correct, many of OPs posts seem like he's half-trolling.
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    Yes… trolling. Cause I have nothing better to do…
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    Originally Posted by LazerTag View Post
    Yes… trolling. Cause I have nothing better to do…
    Seems like it, and that you just want to see people waste their time by responding.

    Yesterday you were looking for an epic pain 2-month challenge to push your body to the limit, then later you were bored with lifting & were just going to take a bunch of classes at the gym, then today you were looking to get strong with a recomp & posted a routine with DLs, now you're scared of DLs.
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    Yes, questions. Can’t all be true?

    I am looking for something new…. A challenge, taking some classes, a program to really push myself, something…

    I am scared to go heavy with deadlifts. Currently doing sets with 12 reps and low weight because I’m afraid going heavy will hurt me. Throw your back out twice for a few weeks each and tell me if you won’t be nervous trying again…

    So far your responses have been “anyone under 44 can do deadlifts”, “don’t take the class with pink dumbbells”, and “classes are only good for looking at butts”. Who is the troll here?
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    Trainer here, squats are not just for young people, thats complete BS. A good trainer/coach can help recognize issues and work to correct them, but sometimes even when you're doing everything "right" injuries can still occur. One of the biggest issues people have when coming off an injury is trying to put too much weight on the bar too quickly. It takes time to build up again, especially after a long layoff of not doing a certain movement.

    My recommendation would be to seek out a reputable powerlifting coach in your area, sometimes those folks are a little better than the typical gym trainer just to ensure you don't have any form issues. Or you could film yourself and post a video so we could take a look at it (ideally from different angles - side, back, front).
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    Originally Posted by LazerTag View Post
    Yes, questions. Can’t all be true?

    I am looking for something new…. A challenge, taking some classes, a program to really push myself, something…

    I am scared to go heavy with deadlifts. Currently doing sets with 12 reps and low weight because I’m afraid going heavy will hurt me. Throw your back out twice for a few weeks each and tell me if you won’t be nervous trying again…

    So far your responses have been “anyone under 44 can do deadlifts”, “don’t take the class with pink dumbbells”, and “classes are only good for looking at butts”. Who is the troll here?
    Actually I said classes won't help you build muscle (which is why you said you were going to take them) & will only help you burn a few cals, if you were reading the substantive portion of what I said instead of misquoting the non-substantive portions. But if you're accusing me of not replying very seriously to your trolling posts with a diff goal every few hours, guilty as charged. Good luck!
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    Originally Posted by LazerTag View Post
    I hurt my back deadlifting last year. Recovered, and hurt it again a week later. Went to a trainer, and was told those exercises are for young people. Should I keep doing it? Should I get a trainer or post form videos?

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    Good Morning,
    I agree Squats and Deadlifts are not only for young people. And you should immediately fire any trainer that says that. I'm nearing 50 and can still squat and DL over 500lbs (yes I put that in there to brag too)

    I would suggest you start each at 135 and progress slowly to heavier weight.

    Check a Youtube Channel called Calgary Barbell. He's a powerlifter and coach. On Fridays he critics viewer videos for form. Send in a video to him. Note: He prefers sumo over conventional. Their website also provides a pretty good 16 week program to increase the Big 3. I saw at least a 7% increase in each the first time I used it.

    It looks like you want to increase size too so try a Powerbuilding routine that Jeff Nippard offers. It hits the Big3 heavy but also includes a bunch of accessory work.

    Good luck
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    Originally Posted by KenpachiZaraki View Post
    Check a Youtube Channel called Calgary Barbell. He's a powerlifter and coach. On Fridays he critics viewer videos for form. Send in a video to him.
    They moved those videos to Twitch.
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    I started squatting a month ago after doing upper body to great results since last June. With great results means a much improved upper body physique. The down side is the legs arent growing if I'm ignoring them. I don't want to look like a golf tee or Michigan J Frog. What I've always read is start light and work on form at the beginning. Right now I'm just doing 12-15 reps with like 100 pounds. Eventually I'll start working to get stronger, but right now I'm working on form. Us men, as we get older our butts start shrinking. LOL I'm 51 and don't want to some day be one of those 60 year old men with no butt whose pants won't stay up. Not to mention a million other health benefits to squatting.
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    The age thing is irrelevant.

    Start with lower weight and get your form right. Who knows if you're trying to ego lift.

    Also, work on your core plenty. You'd be amazed what having a solid core can do to stabilize your back during these lifts.
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