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    Post Is it still possible to gain weight or muscle while limiting calories?

    This is a follow up from my last thread. Instead of bumping it I thought I'd create a new on with an update. I have been told I'm in the pre-diabetes range from my doctor a few weeks ago. I got through an appointment with a nutritionist today who told me the protein powder I have been using is the main source of what triggered the escalation of in my LDL and ALT levels. They have limited my diet to 2700 calories with a maximum of 260g of carbs, 162g of protein, and 101g of fat. I have already mapped out how I can achieve these levels with the food recommended list they have personally laid out for me. I can leave a description of how I'm going to be eating if it'll help. My main concern is how am I going to put on weight with all my limitations? Every weight gain calculator tells me I need to amass more than 3000 or more calories a day.

    I tried doing research on how diabetic bodybuilders found success, but there is nothing out there which I can find that relates to caloric limitations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been so upset about this today, and all I want to do is continue seeing gains and hopefully one day weigh 180 lbs. I am currently at 167 lbs at 6ft3.
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    You can eat at around maintenance calories and still gain muscle, just have to work hard in the gym. Of course, you won't gain any weight, you'll be replacing lost fat with muscle.

    Sorting out pre-diabetes is something that should be done fairly quickly, although I thought you needed a low carb diet for that. Certainly, I would aim to only get carbs from wholefood low calorie dense sources (mostly beans, pulses, root vegetables, salad vegetables etc)
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    You can eat at around maintenance calories and still gain muscle, just have to work hard in the gym. Of course, you won't gain any weight, you'll be replacing lost fat with muscle.

    Sorting out pre-diabetes is something that should be done fairly quickly, although I thought you needed a low carb diet for that. Certainly, I would aim to only get carbs from wholefood low calorie dense sources (mostly beans, pulses, root vegetables, salad vegetables etc)

    Yes, so here is what the meals we mapped out.

    Breakfast
    Oatmeal
    Banana
    Apple
    5 hardboiled eggs

    Lunch
    Skinless Chicken and Brown Rice
    Broccoli
    Peanut Butter Sandwich

    Dinner
    Chicken and Brown Rice
    Broccoli
    Peanut Butter Sandwhich
    Apple

    The 2 snacks throughout the day will be diabetic protein bars with no sugar or cholesterol, and I will be able to have a protein shake that has 210 calories with only 1 gram of sugar and 20g of protein.

    All of this amounts to 2675 calories and keeps in the limited range of carbs, protein and fats the doctor has set for me.

    They say there's no excuses when it comes to your goals in the gym, but this definitely sends my plans awry when I have to limit my food consumption. If my goal was to lose weight this wouldn't be a problem, and this has been bumming me out since I left the doctor yesterday. So basically what it boils down to is that I have to give up on the notion of weighing more and just accept my bodyweight for what it is, and maybe get bigger with muscle mass?
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    Originally Posted by mgstamper1s View Post
    Yes, so here is what the meals we mapped out.
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    I still don't get why this diet would help overcome prediabetes. Seems rather inflexible, especially if you are going to be burning extra calories from exercising.

    Usually, the condition improves if you lose weight and limit carbs but you aren't aiming to do either... Perhaps you need to speak to your doctor again and let them know what you are planning. Exercise should improve health markers too but as I say, you don't need to actively gain weight. 170lbs might seem light but you can still fit a fair amount of muscle into that if you are lean. Perhaps later when the condition improves, you can edge up towards 180lbs.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Usually, the condition improves if you lose weight and limit carbs but you aren't aiming to do either... Perhaps you need to speak to your doctor again and let them know what you are planning. Exercise should improve health markers too but as I say, you don't need to actively gain weight. 170lbs might seem light but you can still fit a fair amount of muscle into that if you are lean. Perhaps later when the condition improves, you can edge up towards 180lbs.
    Yes, we spoke about it in detail with what I'm trying to do. It's not what I have to eat or give up in order to be healthy, its having to limit my caloric intake which I think will severely hinder my progress. Seeing as how you think I can creep my way into 180 with maybe muscle mass does make me feel a bit better. Thank you for your replies.
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