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    RIP Colin Powell

    Colin Powell, the first Black US secretary of state whose leadership in several Republican administrations helped shape American foreign policy in the last years of the 20th century and the early years of the 21st, has died from complications from Covid-19, his family said on Facebook. He was 84.

    "General Colin L. Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, passed away this morning due to complications from Covid 19," the Powell family wrote on Facebook.
    "We have lost a remarkable and loving husband, father, grandfather and a great American," they said, noting he was fully vaccinated.
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    Oh wow!!! How sad.

    He was a great officer and a greater statesman.

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    Would have made a great President because he had no desire to be President.
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    Oh wow!!! How sad.

    He was a great officer and a greater statesman.

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    Would have made a great President because he had no desire to be President.

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    When I saw the notice on TV early this morning I almost cried. Truly a person I admired. He was Presidential, respected and loved.

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    This Covid stuff is complex, read this:

    "Right," replied Reiner. "Multiple myeloma is a disease that itself suppresses the immune system but it's also important to understand that the treatment for multiple myeloma, which patients often take every day, itself can suppress the immune system. So General Powell represented our most vulnerable population in this country; he was over the age of 80, he had cancer, and a treatment for his cancer made him vulnerable."

    "When we try to convince young people, who feel they are low risk from the virus itself, why they need to be vaccinated, it's to protect our treasures, our people like General Powell, our grandparents, because while, you know, a 25-year-old may do quite well with the infection, if they spread it to someone like General Powell, they will not," he elaborated before adding, "That is the imperative for vaccination in this country."

    I admired the man and my GF's parents know them well and will probably be at the funeral.
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    This Covid stuff is complex, read this:

    "Right," replied Reiner. "Multiple myeloma is a disease that itself suppresses the immune system but it's also important to understand that the treatment for multiple myeloma, which patients often take every day, itself can suppress the immune system. So General Powell represented our most vulnerable population in this country; he was over the age of 80, he had cancer, and a treatment for his cancer made him vulnerable."

    "When we try to convince young people, who feel they are low risk from the virus itself, why they need to be vaccinated, it's to protect our treasures, our people like General Powell, our grandparents, because while, you know, a 25-year-old may do quite well with the infection, if they spread it to someone like General Powell, they will not," he elaborated before adding, "That is the imperative for vaccination in this country."

    I admired the man and my GF's parents know them well and will probably be at the funeral.
    Vaccine doesn't prevent you from catching or spreading COVID-19 but everyone knows that including the scum/dullard that would use this man's death to promote it.
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    RIP, sir.

    And fuk this guy and those who still support him.

    'Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media. Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!'

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    RIP, sir.

    And fuk this guy and those who still support him.
    Trump has never been known to pull punches and for many that's a problem however at least you know where he's coming from. Powell was a great statesman however the Iraq debacle was the downfall of his overall legacy, unfortunately.
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    Powell opposed the invasion of Iraq. He was one of the few in the Bush administration that consistently pushed for diplomatic solutions. He was the only one in the administration that explained to Bush their military plan had nothing in place for post invasion administration of the country. And he met with Bush and explained this in an attempt to convince him it was a mistake to invade. After invasion he pushed hard against the US decision to disband the Iraqi army but was lost out to Rumsfeld and Bremmer, as he did with trying to convince the Bush admin not to invade. He was the secretary of state, a diplomat. He wasn't the secretary of defense, he wasn't the director of central intelligence. The intelligence community didn't report to him and he had no authority over them.

    I say this not to absolve him of culpability. He ultimately gave a speech to the UN, as America's top diplomat, based on material provided to him by the defense department and the CIA. He has to own that speech. He repeatedly talked about his regret for it, his shame in learning later intelligence had been manipulated that was provided to him. He himself said it was his responsibility to ensure what he said was truthful.

    He was one of the better people in the Bush administration. Cheney, Bremmer, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bush are the ones that decided to invade Iraq. They're the ones who poorly planned and executed post invasion administration.
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    Can we please avoid turning this into a political/Covid discussion?

    Colin Powell was a man that many (myself included) admired. He was one of the most profound leaders this country has ever had and I'm grateful for having been a citizen of this country while he was serving.

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    Originally Posted by mdonnelly80 View Post
    Can we please avoid turning this into a political/Covid discussion?

    Colin Powell was a man that many (myself included) admired. He was one of the most profound leaders this country has ever had and I'm grateful for having been a citizen of this country while he was serving.

    RIP sir.
    While i agree 100% with line 1, no, most on this site can NOT DO THAT!
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    Great man, great leader.
    Big loss.

    So he wasn't perfect? Last I checked I could barely qualify to shine Mr Powell's shoes.
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    Powell opposed the invasion of Iraq. He was one of the few in the Bush administration that consistently pushed for diplomatic solutions. He was the only one in the administration that explained to Bush their military plan had nothing in place for post invasion administration of the country. And he met with Bush and explained this in an attempt to convince him it was a mistake to invade. After invasion he pushed hard against the US decision to disband the Iraqi army but was lost out to Rumsfeld and Bremmer, as he did with trying to convince the Bush admin not to invade. He was the secretary of state, a diplomat. He wasn't the secretary of defense, he wasn't the director of central intelligence. The intelligence community didn't report to him and he had no authority over them.

    I say this not to absolve him of culpability. He ultimately gave a speech to the UN, as America's top diplomat, based on material provided to him by the defense department and the CIA. He has to own that speech. He repeatedly talked about his regret for it, his shame in learning later intelligence had been manipulated that was provided to him. He himself said it was his responsibility to ensure what he said was truthful.

    He was one of the better people in the Bush administration. Cheney, Bremmer, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bush are the ones that decided to invade Iraq. They're the ones who poorly planned and executed post invasion administration.
    Powell acted on the information given him, unfortunately it was incorrect information, the end result however, was that he supported the invasion.
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    This Covid stuff is complex, read this:

    "Right," replied Reiner. "Multiple myeloma is a disease that itself suppresses the immune system but it's also important to understand that the treatment for multiple myeloma, which patients often take every day, itself can suppress the immune system. So General Powell represented our most vulnerable population in this country; he was over the age of 80, he had cancer, and a treatment for his cancer made him vulnerable."

    "When we try to convince young people, who feel they are low risk from the virus itself, why they need to be vaccinated, it's to protect our treasures, our people like General Powell, our grandparents, because while, you know, a 25-year-old may do quite well with the infection, if they spread it to someone like General Powell, they will not," he elaborated before adding, "That is the imperative for vaccination in this country."

    I admired the man and my GF's parents know them well and will probably be at the funeral.


    Will it ever end with you?

    Powell was vaccinated himself, I suspect the complications from Covid report is damn near political BS!

    But believe what you will.......
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Will it ever end with you?

    Powell was vaccinated himself, I suspect the complications from Covid report is damn near political BS!

    But believe what you will.......
    Sorry English por favor; what is the translation from above?

    The man had Parkinsons, a few types of Cancer, and the quotes from the article repeat what others have said since spring of last year.
    Not sure what the controversy is, protect your sick elders.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Sorry English por favor; what is the translation from above?

    The man had Parkinsons, a few types of Cancer, and the quotes from the article repeat what others have said since spring of last year.
    Not sure what the controversy is, protect your sick elders.


    I am getting better at reading Taters postings, here is what I think he means..

    Covid had nothing to do with it because he was vaccinated, the commies just want you to think it was covid so they can enforce more commie rules, masks, vax passports and such..
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    Great man, great leader.
    Big loss.

    So he wasn't perfect? Last I checked I could barely qualify to shine Mr Powell's shoes.
    Succinctly put in graceful humility. As he so often embodied in his service to America. I reckon he more than paid his debts.

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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    I am getting better at reading Taters postings, here is what I think he means..

    Covid had nothing to do with it because he was vaccinated, the commies just want you to think it was covid so they can enforce more commie rules, masks, vax passports and such..

    It actually has to do with this assumption that he caught Covid from some young unvaccinated self centered person (I'm sure he was out and about partying with the hipsters) he could've caught it from a vaccinated person. BUT just because he had it when he died doesn't mean that's why he died.

    BTW, his wife had it too around the same time.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    It actually has to do with this assumption that he caught Covid from some young unvaccinated self centered person (I'm sure he was out and about partying with the hipsters) he could've caught it from a vaccinated person. BUT just because he had it when he died doesn't mean that's why he died.

    BTW, his wife had it too around the same time.
    uhhh, ok, that was a quote from the MD in the article who was saying that it COULD HAPPEN.

    Quotation marks are when you quote something that someone else said, 7th grade jr high English.
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    And here I thought I was fluent in Tater speak. I am disappointed in me.



    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    It actually has to do with this assumption that he caught Covid from some young unvaccinated self centered person (I'm sure he was out and about partying with the hipsters) he could've caught it from a vaccinated person. BUT just because he had it when he died doesn't mean that's why he died.

    BTW, his wife had it too around the same time.

    The man had cancer and was likely immunosuppressed, so yeah, I believe Covid played a big part, especially since the Doctors said he passed because of complications due to Covid.

    His wife did catch Covid and recovered well. What is your point?
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