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    Bicep Tendons flaring up after every pull workout

    Anytime I do a "pull" workout like pullups, rows, or even curls, my biceps tendons flare up VERY FAST.

    I can handle the weight easy. But even after doing 2 sets of bodyweight pull ups, both my arms bicep elbow area is like very inflamed, swollen, and limited mobility. Can't even straighten the arm fully anymore.

    I guess this started 2 months ago and it's been getting worse as time goes on. I used to be able to do 4 sets of 45lb weighted pull ups. Now I can't even do 2 set of bodyweight pullups without these flare ups.

    Any idea what's going on? Is this tendonitis or maybe a bicep tear?

    Lastly, anyone has any tips to improve this condition? I already eat really healthy and take collagen supplement.

    Thanks!
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    Distal tendonitis. You need to stop doing exercises that involve the biceps. That will eliminate a lot of your workout however if you continue to aggravate it it'll never go away. It will take a few months. When you think it's ok you need to still give it more healing time
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    Step 1 - get a professional diagnosis.
    If it is tendons or a muscle tear, I cannot help you.
    If it is epicondylitis (tennis or golf elbow) then stretching and massage worked wonders for me and cut months off my projected recovery time.
    All the best.
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    Thanks! Yea, I guess I'll let it rest for a month or so and do some eccentric curls as a rehab.
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    Alright hit me. Major Tendonitis
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    Originally Posted by r3faat1 View Post
    Anytime I do a "pull" workout like pullups, rows, or even curls, my biceps tendons flare up VERY FAST.

    I can handle the weight easy. But even after doing 2 sets of bodyweight pull ups, both my arms bicep elbow area is like very inflamed, swollen, and limited mobility. Can't even straighten the arm fully anymore.

    I guess this started 2 months ago and it's been getting worse as time goes on. I used to be able to do 4 sets of 45lb weighted pull ups. Now I can't even do 2 set of bodyweight pullups without these flare ups.

    Any idea what's going on? Is this tendonitis or maybe a bicep tear?

    Lastly, anyone has any tips to improve this condition? I already eat really healthy and take collagen supplement.

    Thanks!

    Sounds like tendonitis, which is micro tears spread throught the tendon. If they were on one side, it would be called a tear.


    You have to stop exercising your bicep for several weeks.

    You should have stopped much longer ago. Lack of range of motion indicates it is now serious. You should ask a doctor how to rehab it, but I doubt you can use it for months. Avoid even light lifts during the day.
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    The good news if it it only hurts doing certain exercises and not when you’re at home doing nothing then that’s a good sign to just stop certain exercises for now. I had a total rupture (tore the tendon off) and that was no picnic.
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    Originally Posted by r3faat1 View Post
    Alright hit me. Major Tendonitis
    Well your going to have to go on no fap for at least three months , and take naproxen daily on a full stomach with lots of water .
    Crazy thing is , it’s going to feel totally healed with enough rest , but can easily be aggravated again .
    Avoid any fast movements during reps , and try to find exercises that don’t flare it up .
    I took a year off and my tendonitis came back almost immediately. Some times you just have to live with it and work around it ,
    Tried acupuncture = negative, cold compresses = negative.
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    https://research.cornell.edu/news-fe...es-and-healing


    The researchers at Cornell who wrote this article did not study structural engineering. If they had, the answers to their questions would be obvious.


    You have to take all load off the tendon so the torn fiber ends butt together. Less healing is needed for the smaller gaps, and the then equal length fibers can carry loads evenly. Once scar tissue bridges a bigger gap, the fibers will never carry weight evenly, and the tendon will permantly be weaker. If the fibers are all torn on one side, it woll continue to tear unless a wedge slice is done.

    I took a class on tissue regeneration, in adition to my structures classes, so that is how I could see this.



    So don't use it, continue not using it after the pain stops, then gradually steengthen the new scar tissue with very light weights over months. Go too fast and it will rip again, and you have to start over with more scar tissue.


    Scar tissue starts weak and then is built upon to get stronger, but is strongest if it is small a joins a very small gap.

    The tendon fibers are so small we can't do the microsurgery needed to start fresh.




    Oh, and Cornell got federal funding to investigate what is already obvious to other experts and already taught in classes. Government waste.
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    I had a sudden pain when I lifted too much. I backed the weight down and got pain again a day later. This repeated until I could not turn a door knob. I stopped using it for a year. I could lift the heavy weight again, but the pain came back mid set. So I took the month off and came back much lower. I can lift the lower weights. It is not getting worse. But if I ever try a slightly heavier weight, the pain returns.

    I know several fibers did not heal correctly and never will. My max weight is limited, and exceeding the lower max will lower the max further. So I just lift the weight I can handle and go for higher reps.

    Hopefully I don't lose too much muscle when I cut. High reps is not ideal.


    There is one ray of hope. Maybe the remaining good fibers can get stronger so that the bad ones are not needed.

    I doubt an MRI has the resolution to see all this.
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    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    Well your going to have to go on no fap for at least three months , and take naproxen daily on a full stomach with lots of water .
    Crazy thing is , it’s going to feel totally healed with enough rest , but can easily be aggravated again .
    Avoid any fast movements during reps , and try to find exercises that don’t flare it up .
    I took a year off and my tendonitis came back almost immediately. Some times you just have to live with it and work around it ,
    Tried acupuncture = negative, cold compresses = negative.
    What percentage your old weight did you lift when you came back, and how gradually did you increase it?

    A partial tear would require surgery, and the correct kind, an angled slice, not a full slice and staple.
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    The good news if it it only hurts doing certain exercises and not when you’re at home doing nothing then that’s a good sign to just stop certain exercises for now. I had a total rupture (tore the tendon off) and that was no picnic.
    Yea man, it's only doing PULL type of workout (pull ups, rows, etc.). Basically, anything that puts pressure on biceps elbow tendons. I don't really feel the pain on my biceps, rather ONLY the elbow/tendons area.

    Shown in image below:
    i.ibb.co/MgFZx1R/bicep-pain.png

    And when I say pain, it's not really even a pain. The area just gets really inflamed, and swollen. It just feels irritated like I should probably be leaving it alone.

    I can still do any PUSH workout. Bench press, dips, etc. no problem.
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    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    Well your going to have to go on no fap for at least three months , and take naproxen daily on a full stomach with lots of water .
    Crazy thing is , it’s going to feel totally healed with enough rest , but can easily be aggravated again .
    Avoid any fast movements during reps , and try to find exercises that don’t flare it up .
    I took a year off and my tendonitis came back almost immediately. Some times you just have to live with it and work around it ,
    Tried acupuncture = negative, cold compresses = negative.
    I mean I'll go on NoFap, I done that sht before. But I see my chick every week and I don't know how well she'll take it when I tell her that Major Tendonitis suggested we don't fck for 3 months.

    Yea, I hate this part A LOT. My biceps are ready and pumped for those sweet gainz but anytime I start to push it, I always need to stop due to tendons irritation. Thanks for the suggestions, when it heals, I'll try to look for alternatives and revisit my form to put more pressure on the biceps and less on the tendons.
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    Originally Posted by Darkius View Post
    I had a sudden pain when I lifted too much. I backed the weight down and got pain again a day later. This repeated until I could not turn a door knob. I stopped using it for a year. I could lift the heavy weight again, but the pain came back mid set. So I took the month off and came back much lower. I can lift the lower weights. It is not getting worse. But if I ever try a slightly heavier weight, the pain returns.

    I know several fibers did not heal correctly and never will. My max weight is limited, and exceeding the lower max will lower the max further. So I just lift the weight I can handle and go for higher reps.

    Hopefully I don't lose too much muscle when I cut. High reps is not ideal.


    There is one ray of hope. Maybe the remaining good fibers can get stronger so that the bad ones are not needed.

    I doubt an MRI has the resolution to see all this.
    Thanks for all your info man. Yea, as much as it sucks, I'll go real easy this time. Let it heal for maybe a month and start with very light curls. If I feel ANY irritations, I'll back off immediately.

    Yikes, sorry to hear about all of that. So you've looked at all options and there is nothing else you can do to improve it?
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