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    Question Looking for an at home gym solution IN CANADA

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    I was considering a Bowflex, but after some reading yesterday, seems there are better options. But every review and comparison is typically out of the US, and not all the stuff ships to Canada, or it's insanely expensive. There are border delivery services so I could possibly have something shipped to the US address border, but it does add cost so would have to be a really good deal. Options available in Canada would be easier.

    I'm 5'9", 195lbs. Brief history, 10 years ago I was ~205 and sawft. Moved out west, got addicted to the elliptical in my rental place, and cleaned up my eating. Over 2 years I lost 60 lbs, best I ever felt at 146. Oh how I wish a began real lifting at that point. Years and relationships later, creep back up to 180. Lifted weights for 1.5-2 years with an old colleague who used to do shows and was pretty jacked. It was the strongest I'd ever been, I fest better as skinny fat at 146, but still felt solid at 180. I no longer work with him, stopped lifting, and at a meh 195.

    On my frame, I think 155-160 lbs and lean with some muscle would be my end goal. Flat stomach. I've gotta get me eating under control, and we have a Precor elliptical that we bought at the start of covid, so now I need a strength training solution for our basement. Our basement development starts next week and should take 8-9 weeks, then I'll be buying something (I can wait till BF if it'll make a big difference).

    I tore my rotator cuff snowboarding years ago, so it limits what I can bench, and why I feel much better with a spotter, which I won't have. That's why I was initially leaning towards a bowflex. I know there's smith machines, but robs you of stabilizers. Then there's the hooks you can put on a cage to catch the bar if you can't fully extend, but I've never used them before.

    So with all that, I think some sort of cage solution might be the answer. I like the idea of it having a couple wait stacks, as we did use them a fair bit when I was lifting with my friend. The Lifefitness G7, or something of that idea.

    Budget: Would be nice to keep it $4k CAD or under. I'd like to do it right the first time, but also be reasonable since we dropped $4,400 on the Precor last spring.

    Thanks everyone, sorry for the wall of text.
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    Services like Shippsy or CrossBorderPickups can bring the stuff across for you. I personally find Shippsy easier to use and that's how I shipped a full set of Rep dumbbells across. I'm not the one to advise on a bowflex, but if you're looking for Canadian companies these two are a good start for rack, bench, bars, etc.

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    Instead of the Life Fitness G7, see if you can get an Insire FTX. Essentially the same thing, just not as heavy duty built, but still very good build quality. They can be had from Costco for $1330-1400 shipped in the US. Probably the best deal currently among retail fitness equipment. I've owned mine for about 2 months already, and I've been using it almost everyday.

    When choosing a power rack, be sure of what attachments you want, or may want in the future.

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    Originally Posted by grapegorilla View Post
    Services like Shippsy or CrossBorderPickups can bring the stuff across for you. I personally find Shippsy easier to use and that's how I shipped a full set of Rep dumbbells across. I'm not the one to advise on a bowflex, but if you're looking for Canadian companies these two are a good start for rack, bench, bars, etc.
    There's one here in Calgary I've used before called DKY I think, so I could do that route if the deal works out to be cheaper, or a much better product for similar money. I'll check those out, thanks.

    Originally Posted by BiGx5MurF View Post
    Instead of the Life Fitness G7, see if you can get an Insire FTX. Essentially the same thing, just not as heavy duty built, but still very good build quality. They can be had from Costco for $1330-1400 shipped in the US. Probably the best deal currently among retail fitness equipment. I've owned mine for about 2 months already, and I've been using it almost everyday.

    When choosing a power rack, be sure of what attachments you want, or may want in the future.
    I actually saw some threads on the Inspire brand, wasn't sure how the quality/rep was, but the price seemed pretty reasonable. Good call on the attachments, I have watched a few review videos where guys mention that, as well as the amount of holes to fine tune the height of things.

    So when looking at the different options, there's some that seem to just have weight stacks with cables, and others that have that (some without of course), along with space to have a bar, Smith or free weight. My question is will opting for a stack and cable only machine significantly reduce what you can do? I would think that takes out squats, and true bench press for sure.
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    I don't have enough posts to put links, but is Maxum a reputable company? They have a few options, but the F-190 Functional Trainer Power Rack Home Gym stood out to me as a reasonable price at $1,800 (would still need a bench and plates), and includes a 90kg weight stack. It's not a Smith machine, so I'd have to try it out and make sure I'm comfortable doing bench press to fail, and being able to get the bar on the pins. But otherwise it seems to tick quite a few boxes.

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    Originally Posted by coop3422 View Post
    I don't have enough posts to put links, but is Maxum a reputable company? They have a few options, but the F-190 Functional Trainer Power Rack Home Gym stood out to me as a reasonable price at $1,800 (would still need a bench and plates), and includes a 90kg weight stack. It's not a Smith machine, so I'd have to try it out and make sure I'm comfortable doing bench press to fail, and being able to get the bar on the pins. But otherwise it seems to tick quite a few boxes.

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    Fit505 Rack / Functional / Smith
    When you have a cable system on the rack like that, it'll usually keep you from using an incline bench, so you'll have to bench with a flat bench. Unless the rack is a 6 post, this is usually the case.

    Regarding pin safeties, they work, but it is a little jarring when you hit them mid rep. I prefer strap safeties now that I have both, even though straps are more difficult to find the right settings.
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    Originally Posted by BiGx5MurF View Post
    When you have a cable system on the rack like that, it'll usually keep you from using an incline bench, so you'll have to bench with a flat bench. Unless the rack is a 6 post, this is usually the case.

    Regarding pin safeties, they work, but it is a little jarring when you hit them mid rep. I prefer strap safeties now that I have both, even though straps are more difficult to find the right settings.
    Are you referring to the Maxum one that has the stack at the back? That's an interesting point that I hadn't considered. Do you mean if you're using an inclined bench, and using the hand grips attached to the pulleys to do a bench press motion? I'm guessing if so, the issue is the stack will hit the top most part of the bench?
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    I don’t know which part of Canada your from,but I’ve purchased equipment threw Bells of Steel in Calgary Alberta. They ship fast too .
    They have decent equipment for the price imo . I also like the west side hole spacing on their power racks for fine tuning my safety bars

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    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    I don’t know which part of Canada your from,but I’ve purchased equipment threw Bells of Steel in Calgary Alberta. They ship fast too .
    They have decent equipment for the price imo . I also like the west side hole spacing on their power racks for fine tuning my safety bars
    I'm in Calgary actually, I'll check them out. Thanks
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    Originally Posted by coop3422 View Post
    Are you referring to the Maxum one that has the stack at the back? That's an interesting point that I hadn't considered. Do you mean if you're using an inclined bench, and using the hand grips attached to the pulleys to do a bench press motion? I'm guessing if so, the issue is the stack will hit the top most part of the bench?
    No, if you look at the side profile view of most benches. Incline ones will have feet, and possibly wheels that extend past the pad. On a flat bench the pad will usually extend over the leg. This difference in clearance from the pulley system will keep you from benching inside the rack with an incline bench, and the problem is exacerbated when the bench is in inclined position.

    This reason is why I went with a 6 post rack, since I wanted a pulley system on the back.
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    Originally Posted by coop3422 View Post
    I'm in Calgary actually, I'll check them out. Thanks
    I love their flat bench. It’s 12” wide which is perfect imo . My IronMaster is too narrow and not nearly as good for bench pressing imo .


    Their new incline/decline bench is solid as a rock, but just a forewarning, the first incline position is 22.5 degrees , well at least that’s what my digital level tells me .
    Imo it’s too aggressive,and I prefer the angle that you see with my IronMaster bench behind it .
    So as a fix , when incline benchpressing , I just put a piece of wood under the front to compensate. Not a deal breaker I guess considering the price .
    I mean I’d love to have Rogues latest bench , but at over a thousand bucks Canadian after shipping? And to boot it’s not wide enough



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    I’m using 1” floor flanges with 1” gas pipe cut to length . They do make round end caps that you can weld to the ends in order to make for a cleaner look , but my welding skills are not very impressive , so I opted for industrial heat shrink to cover the pipe , which got rid of the sharp ends


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    Originally Posted by BiGx5MurF View Post
    No, if you look at the side profile view of most benches. Incline ones will have feet, and possibly wheels that extend past the pad. On a flat bench the pad will usually extend over the leg. This difference in clearance from the pulley system will keep you from benching inside the rack with an incline bench, and the problem is exacerbated when the bench is in inclined position.

    This reason is why I went with a 6 post rack, since I wanted a pulley system on the back.
    Thanks for clarifying. I'll definitely need to pay attention to this when it comes to decision making time. I want to hit up some local stores, although I don't know how much they'll actually have on the floor.

    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    I love their flat bench. It’s 12” wide which is perfect imo . My IronMaster is too narrow and not nearly as good for bench pressing imo .

    Their new incline/decline bench is solid as a rock, but just a forewarning, the first incline position is 22.5 degrees , well at least that’s what my digital level tells me .
    Imo it’s too aggressive,and I prefer the angle that you see with my IronMaster bench behind it .
    So as a fix , when incline benchpressing , I just put a piece of wood under the front to compensate. Not a deal breaker I guess considering the price .
    I mean I’d love to have Rogues latest bench , but at over a thousand bucks Canadian after shipping? And to boot it’s not wide enough


    Since your just starting I thought I’d show you my weight plate storage idea . Something maybe you can implement.
    I’m using 1” floor flanges with 1” gas pipe cut to length . They do make round end caps that you can weld to the ends in order to make for a cleaner look , but my welding skills are not very impressive , so I opted for industrial heat shrink to cover the pipe , which got rid of the sharp ends

    This is my first attempt at making these . Just a 2/6 board and floor flanges .

    Bumper storage rack 2.0
    I used steel on the top and bottom with adjustable feet to refine them . Still have to rebuild and color match the other two
    That's a nice area you have. I definitely don't have that much room. We're having the basement finished to look consistent with the rest of the house, so I don't plan on mounting much to walls outside of maybe mirrors.
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    I think that Maxum F190 looks like a great choice..
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    Originally Posted by Greybird2 View Post
    I think that Maxum F190 looks like a great choice..
    Is it a pretty reputable brand? $1,800 seems pretty decent for a cage with a stack from what I've seen.
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    Originally Posted by Greybird2 View Post
    I think that Maxum F190 looks like a great choice..
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    Pulleys too small and would create too much resistance. A 180 degree turn with a cable should be a 6” minimum radius pulley , and a 90 degree turn should be a 4.5” pulley .
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    I have 6 machines with pulleys. None are 6 inch. The one that would compare to the above is my LF G7. The pulleys are 3 1/2 inches.
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    Originally Posted by coop3422 View Post
    Is it a pretty reputable brand? $1,800 seems pretty decent for a cage with a stack from what I've seen.
    I have no idea on the brand. I like machines that do more than 1 thing for home gyms. Space is always at a premium in a home gym.
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    [QUOTE=MajorTendonitis;1643933553]Nice embedding skills .

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    Originally Posted by Greybird2 View Post
    I have 6 machines with pulleys. None are 6 inch. The one that would compare to the above is my LF G7. The pulleys are 3 1/2 inches.
    You don’t need 6” unless your cable is making a 180 degree turn .
    3.5 inch for a 90 degree turn is pushing it but works , but that power rack looks more like 2.5” pulleys
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    Originally Posted by MajorTendonitis View Post
    You don’t need 6” unless your cable is making a 180 degree turn .
    3.5 inch for a 90 degree turn is pushing it but works , but that power rack looks more like 2.5” pulleys
    4 out of 6 of my machines make 180 degree turns on top of the weight stack. The pulleys are 3 1/2 and 4 1/2.
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