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    Simone Biles and Gymnastics

    Let me know if I am missing anything here, bros.

    I love and respect Simone. She is a great athlete who has overcome many hardships in her life. She has won gold many times.

    Having said this, I am somewhat confuzed.

    To my understanding, because she is "too good" they want to change the standards?

    And then she quit. She said mental health. Not gonna judge her decision to quit.

    I am seeing two camps.

    One camp is calling her a quitter.

    Another camp is glorifying her quitting.

    But did she quit because she was pissed off at the decision to change the standards?

    Help me understand, bruhs.

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    If your head isn’t in it at that level then you should sit out. You can get seriously injured in her sport. I don’t think it warrants criticism. On the other hand, people on social media need to tone it down a bit on anointing her as some icon for backing out. It doesn’t make her a villain or a hero, especially in an era where athletes like her and others anoint themselves as the GOAT while still actively competing. The “I support Simone” tweets are reaching a level of narcissism and absurdity I didn’t think was possible. Nobody seems to give a sh*t about tweeting their support for her teammates who have to fill the void.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    If your head isn’t in it at that level then you should sit out. You can get seriously injured in her sport. I don’t think it warrants criticism. On the other hand, people on social media need to tone it down a bit on anointing her as some icon for backing out. It doesn’t make her a villain or a hero, especially in an era where athletes like her and others anoint themselves as the GOAT while still actively competing. The “I support Simone” tweets are reaching a level of narcissism and absurdity I didn’t think was possible. Nobody seems to give a sh*t about tweeting their support for her teammates who have to fill the void.
    OKAY. Good. Because I feel the same 100%.
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    I respect her decision, no idea what is going on in her head. It couldn't have been an easy decision knowing she would face scrutiny one way or the other.

    I wish her well.
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    I respect her decision, no idea what is going on in her head. It couldn't have been an easy decision knowing she would face scrutiny one way or the other.

    I wish her well.
    Exactly!! She is an elite athlete. The rest of us 99% will never know what goes through an elite athlete's mentality.
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    For whatever reason, she had been performing like absolute ch!t. It was actually BETTER for the team for her to GTFO and let someone else take her place.

    I've seen numerous mentions of a "different scoring system" relating to her, but haven't seen anything factual regarding same.


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    The way i understood it is she did it because her numbers were going to cost the entire team a chance to medal. If that's the case I say well done.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    If your head isn’t in it at that level then you should sit out. You can get seriously injured in her sport. I don’t think it warrants criticism. On the other hand, people on social media need to tone it down a bit on anointing her as some icon for backing out. It doesn’t make her a villain or a hero, especially in an era where athletes like her and others anoint themselves as the GOAT while still actively competing. The “I support Simone” tweets are reaching a level of narcissism and absurdity I didn’t think was possible. Nobody seems to give a sh*t about tweeting their support for her teammates who have to fill the void.
    I suspect that most of this has nothing to do with Simone Biles ... She and her situation are just a convenient tool to show everyone on social media what a wonderful virtuous person you are. Given the inherent narcissism that social media creates, I believe that much of the commentary (in general) is about emoting and personal image creation. The referent of the message itself is just the vehicle by which those aims are met.
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    She prob knows her tours over as an elite and it's time to retired. Would prob face heavy scrutiny if she performs horribly costing the team.
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    I don't do any social media, so I can only guess how annoying it is to see people glorifying the Simone situation. That said, I'm wondering if the references to "mental health concerns" are referring to a mental break. I've seen it happen to big athletes like Dontrelle Willis or Rick Ankiel. It's kind of hard to believe that a top class athlete can lose all ability to compete on the big stage, but it can happen! It's hard for me to imagine what it would be like to train for four years (in this case five) for a brief performance that the whole world is watching.

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    Regardless of her reason, some people dedicate too much time caring about this. It doesn't affect their lives, yet they go on some pilgrimage online and argue with people over whether she's a quitter or not.

    I mean, I was bummed for a couple days when Andrew Luck retired, but I wasn't going online question his life decisions and fighting with people over whether or not he should have retired and if he's a selfish quitter. My life went on just fine.

    Of course this situation gets escalated into a race and gender issue with some media members and that's where it becomes pathetic.... when the grifters like Shalise Manza Young come out of the woodwork to start dropping nonsense that doesn't relate to the topic so they can prove how woke they are.
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    Ya'll have pretty much said it. Simone has already demonstrated she can perform under pressure multiple times. She made a difficult decision to pull out, and will face vilification and reification on many sides.
    It was her decision, looks like the right one. She's probably done as a world-level competitor, so I imagine it was doubly tough to make, but she did.
    Hopefully she can move on with her life like the rest of us will.
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    She has every right to quit whenever she wants to for whatever reason. We don't do slavery in this country anymore.
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    I respect her decision, no idea what is going on in her head. It couldn't have been an easy decision knowing she would face scrutiny one way or the other.

    I wish her well.


    In addition to this ^^^^^^

    I am also sick of hearing about it, lets hear more about the athletes that are still competing. We can give her the attentions when the olympics are over.
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    In addition to this ^^^^^^

    I am also sick of hearing about it, lets hear more about the athletes that are still competing. We can give her the attentions when the olympics are over.
    It wouldn't have been such an issue if conservative pundits like Charlie Kirk didn't babyrage about it.
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    Ya'll have pretty much said it. Simone has already demonstrated she can perform under pressure multiple times. She made a difficult decision to pull out, and will face vilification and reification on many sides.
    It was her decision, looks like the right one. She's probably done as a world-level competitor, so I imagine it was doubly tough to make, but she did.
    Hopefully she can move on with her life like the rest of us will.
    Seems to me that she stole a spot from someone that wanted to compete. Someone's dream. Seems she has really bad timing with her decision.
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    The saga continues




    USA Gymnastics tweets that it is “so excited” to confirm that Simone Biles is returning to competition at #Tokyo2020, where she will compete in the balance beam finals alongside Suni Lee.





    Guess she wasn't getting enough attention, what a joke!
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    The only issue I have with her was when she Started wearing a GOAT leotard. At that point I kind of lost a lot of respect for her.

    Now. Yes she made the decision to pull out, and has stated mental health issues. If true yes good for her for admitting it.

    Time will judge her for her decision, but in todays climate she will be held as a heroin, of sport, minorities, and mental wellbeing.
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    You all just dont like to pull out, lol.



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    okay so i just learned something about gymnastics...

    The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.4 day

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    okay so i just learned something about gymnastics...

    The “twisties” happen to gymnasts when they are in the middle of their routine or even in the middle of a skill. Something causes them to lose awareness of where they are in the skill, and in their relation to the ground.4 day

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/olympics...mpics-n1275460
    The description I read sounds a lot like what I call, "vertigo".

    If its the same, she was foolish to continue. IMO.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    The description I read sounds a lot like what I call, "vertigo".

    If its the same, she was foolish to continue. IMO.
    I found lots more on this topic, lots of gymnasts were badly injured.

    "A complex system in the brain that keeps gymnasts balanced can get out of whack."
    "Gymnasts describe as losing control of their body mid-trick and losing sense of where they are in the air. The sensation is not only disorienting, it's dangerous and can lead to serious injury."

    "gymnasts posted to Twitter about their own experiences with the twisties that resulted in broken bones, concussions and dislocated vertebrae; U.S. Olympian Dominique Moceanu, who medaled in gymnastics at age 14, tweeted, "In our sport, we essentially dive into a pool w/ no water. When you lose your ability to find the ground — which appears to be part of @Simone_Biles decision — the consequences can be catastrophic."
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    i gotta say. i didnt agree with the quitting thing, but this bitch is better at gymnastics then 99.9999% of people are at ANYTHING. so if something is bothering her to the point where she wont compete, that something would likely crumble a lesser person
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