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    Vegan Bulking? 😅

    I'm new to consistent & disciplined training & I'm pretty damn small lmao (5'6-5'7 <130lbs) & I was trying to see if any of you guys have followed a vegan diet while bulking or know of a good one? I absolutely do not want to consume meat, especially red, so please only vegan suggestions. I know there are different forms of alternatives, but I have absolutely no idea where to start. Any & all input/help is much appreciated
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    Assuming you’re already getting the required supplements like b12 and probably a vegan EPA/DHA in, it just comes down to a balanced diet with enough calories.

    Tofu/tempeh, beans, lentils, wheat products, and plant-based bars and powders are all good options.

    We can’t really give you a diet plan, because we don’t know what you enjoy.

    As long as you get a variety of protein sources and enough total calories, you’ll be fine.
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    It's going to make you sick.. you'll end up starving your self like a few other users did ... people who do the vegan diet only do it to hide an eating disorder or have ZOOPHIL‐PSYCHOSIS (a mental illness they should get help for..)

    You can't get B12 or DHA or EPA from plants There is Zero proof... by definition makes it, not your natural diet.

    Laboratory vitamins and minerals don't work. Zero proof ..

    Proteins from plants have NO Bioavailability, this includes vitamins and minerals.. you will be wasting your time with them..

    Plant Proteins are incomplete Not to mention the vegan stink Vegans smell pretty bad between the farting,****ting and BO


    The person is essentially a walking garbage can..
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    There is a reason this guy has a bad rep...


    Make sure you get a complete vegan protein supplement I.e a complete amino acid profile
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Assuming you’re already getting the required supplements like b12 and probably a vegan EPA/DHA in, it just comes down to a balanced diet with enough calories.

    Tofu/tempeh, beans, lentils, wheat products, and plant-based bars and powders are all good options.

    We can’t really give you a diet plan, because we don’t know what you enjoy.

    As long as you get a variety of protein sources and enough total calories, you’ll be fine.
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    Originally Posted by zay418 View Post
    I'm new to consistent & disciplined training & I'm pretty damn small lmao (5'6-5'7 <130lbs) & I was trying to see if any of you guys have followed a vegan diet while bulking or know of a good one? I absolutely do not want to consume meat, especially red, so please only vegan suggestions. I know there are different forms of alternatives, but I have absolutely no idea where to start. Any & all input/help is much appreciated

    you do realize there is a middle ground between not eating meat and vegan right? asking because a lot of people find this confusing for some reason.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    you do realize there is a middle ground between not eating meat and vegan right? asking because a lot of people find this confusing for some reason.
    I would consider trying it for like a month, just to see how difficult it is. Peanut butter, avocado, coconut milk, olive oil etc., would make it bearable but I would miss milk, eggs, beef, etc.

    OP, do you have anything specifically against poultry or fish? They're really excellent staples of protein.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    I would consider trying it for like a month, just to see how difficult it is. Peanut butter, avocado, coconut milk, olive oil etc., would make it bearable but I would miss milk, eggs, beef, etc.

    OP, do you have anything specifically against poultry or fish? They're really excellent staples of protein.
    Yeah even if he doesn’t want to eat animal flesh, eggs and dairy are great sources of protein and other nutrients without having to jump through hoops. but i get that some people like to be “hardcore” at something so are drawn to extremes like that.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Yeah even if he doesn’t want to eat animal flesh, eggs and dairy are great sources of protein and other nutrients without having to jump through hoops. but i get that some people like to be “hardcore” at something so are drawn to extremes like that.
    It seems to me that most vegans do so on some kind of self-perceived moral principle, not so much for whatever reputed health benefits it ostensibly offers.

    I do doubt that OP is going to gain much at all on a truly vegan diet, however. I suppose it's theoretically possible but with the incomplete amino acid profile and less-dense foods overall, it's pretty unlikely IMO.
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    Originally Posted by zay418 View Post
    I'm new to consistent & disciplined training & I'm pretty damn small lmao (5'6-5'7 <130lbs) & I was trying to see if any of you guys have followed a vegan diet while bulking or know of a good one? I absolutely do not want to consume meat, especially red, so please only vegan suggestions. I know there are different forms of alternatives, but I have absolutely no idea where to start. Any & all input/help is much appreciated
    I tried to bulk on a vegan diet for about 3 months. I was eating 500 cals over maintenance. I started having all types of digestive symptoms that left me feeling weak. I tried the fodmap diet and while I saw a reduction of the symptoms, I later decided to quit following 100% plant-based diet and added about 5% of calories from animal sources, which greatly helped.

    I found it hard to gain as much weight as on an onmivore diet I had used in the past and I didn't reach my past numbers on some of the lifts. But I could blame that on age. In all, tbh, it made things harder for me.

    I say go for it but and try to get in a decent amount of calories and protein. Take protein shakes, tofu, pulses (be careful with overconsumption of these), white rice and pasta. I would say leave out food that don't have many calories such as many of those found in salads.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    It seems to me that most vegans do so on some kind of self-perceived moral principle, not so much for whatever reputed health benefits it ostensibly offers.

    I do doubt that OP is going to gain much at all on a truly vegan diet, however. I suppose it's theoretically possible but with the incomplete amino acid profile and less-dense foods overall, it's pretty unlikely IMO.

    it can be done. i have maintained on it before for several months. but man the amount of fiber, beans, lentils etc… you DID NOT want to be in a room with me or nearby for a few months when i did it.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    It seems to me that most vegans do so on some kind of self-perceived moral principle, not so much for whatever reputed health benefits it ostensibly offers.

    I do doubt that OP is going to gain much at all on a truly vegan diet, however. I suppose it's theoretically possible but with the incomplete amino acid profile and less-dense foods overall, it's pretty unlikely IMO.


    Apparently this guy is a vegan so it’s possible, but certainly seems way harder.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    it can be done. i have maintained on it before for several months. but man the amount of fiber, beans, lentils etc… you DID NOT want to be in a room with me or nearby for a few months when i did it.
    Yeah, and interesting how adding just 20% of those calories from animal sources would make it a generally healthy diet. Seems like you don't have to go very far with it for balance, and totally avoiding it just seems to cause problems.

    I only have a normal layperson's knowledge of biology/nutrition science besides what I've read here and elsewhere plus my own anecdotal experience, but I would challenge the position that humans aren't supposed to eat meat. It seems our digestive tract is pretty clearly designed to be omnivorous.
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    Guys, people have their own reasons for being vegan outside of the nutritional side. It's moral philosophy... not a way a eating... as least for the vast majority of vegans.

    Trying to convince someone there are other ways of eating is kind of an obvious suggestion... I assume OP knows that he doesn't literally HAVE to be vegan
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    Guys, people have their own reasons for being vegan outside of the nutritional side. It's moral philosophy... not a way a eating... as least for the vast majority of vegans.

    Trying to convince someone there are other ways of eating is kind of an obvious suggestion... I assume OP knows that he doesn't literally HAVE to be vegan

    never assume. Just reading his OP its clear he is either confused or has trouble explaining himself.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    never assume. Just reading his OP its clear he is either confused or has trouble explaining himself.
    That's fair...

    OP was pretty specific on meat, but never mentioned his thoughts on dairy or eggs.

    Maybe they're mixing up veganism with vegetarianism
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    That's fair...

    OP was pretty specific on meat, but never mentioned his thoughts on dairy or eggs.

    Maybe they're mixing up veganism with vegetarianism
    yep I see that A LOT
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    Yeah even if he doesn’t want to eat animal flesh, eggs and dairy are great sources of protein and other nutrients without having to jump through hoops. but i get that some people like to be “hardcore” at something so are drawn to extremes like that.
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    To be honest I tried veganism for about 4 months, I did gain a bit of muscle but not on par to eating meat and the amount of protein shakes I had to take to get my protein in was incredible, I have decided to give it up and go vegetarian as I can still have eggs and whey
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    To be honest I tried veganism for about 4 months, I did gain a bit of muscle but not on par to eating meat and the amount of protein shakes I had to take to get my protein in was incredible, I have decided to give it up and go vegetarian as I can still have eggs and whey
    Is there a term for "poultry/fish/dairy inclusive vegetarianism"?

    Basically just excluding red meat. This seems to be a popular choice and appears to have no issues with dietary balance unlike true veganism. Those who do it this way often identify themselves as someone "who doesn't eat red meat" but that's kind of a belabored descriptor. Quasi-vegetarian, I guess?
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Is there a term for "poultry/fish/dairy inclusive vegetarianism"?

    Basically just excluding red meat. This seems to be a popular choice and appears to have no issues with dietary balance unlike true veganism. Those who do it this way often identify themselves as someone "who doesn't eat red meat" but that's kind of a belabored descriptor. Quasi-vegetarian, I guess?
    Without poultry it’s pescetarian I think? Maybe that’s an option?

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    Without poultry it’s pescetarian I think? Maybe that’s an option?

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    "Pescetarian" checking in & yes, though I rarely use that term because it sounds like pedantic hipster poppycock & I hate labels. I typically just tell people "I'm a vegetarian who eats fish". Whether fish can feel pain is a very hotly debated topic. The general consensus is that they can experience pain insofar as they avoid aversive stimuli, but in a different way than mammals do because they have a less developed CNS.

    That is to say, fish do feel...but probably not as deep
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    "Pescetarian" checking in & yes, though I rarely use that term because it sounds like pedantic hipster poppycock & I hate labels. I typically just tell people "I'm a vegetarian who eats fish". Whether fish can feel pain is a very hotly debated topic. The general consensus is that they can experience pain insofar as they avoid aversive stimuli, but in a different way than mammals do because they have a less developed CNS.

    That is to say, fish do feel...but probably not as deep

    Not has hipster as the term "flexitarian" someone who follows a vegan/veggie diet most of the time but eats the occasional bit of animal product or meat.


    I personally would say I am an omnivore who rarely eats meat or just call myself a bad vegetarian haha
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    Originally Posted by Strawng View Post
    "Pescetarian" checking in & yes, though I rarely use that term because it sounds like pedantic hipster poppycock & I hate labels. I typically just tell people "I'm a vegetarian who eats fish". Whether fish can feel pain is a very hotly debated topic. The general consensus is that they can experience pain insofar as they avoid aversive stimuli, but in a different way than mammals do because they have a less developed CNS.

    That is to say, fish do feel...but probably not as deep
    you’ve obviously never seen Finding Nemo.
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    I was vegetarian when I first started lifting, and went vegan for awhile. I went omni after about 5 years for various reasons (and still abstain from most forms of meat, I eat chicken and fish at the moment). I don't adhere to any sort of label with my diet, even when I was vegetarian unless it directly came up in conversation. These days if I'm offered something that I prefer not to eat, I simply say 'thanks but I don't eat red meat' or whatever.

    You can absolutely bulk on a vegan diet. I was 140lbs when I got into lifting, and believe I was around 200 before I switched to an omnivorous diet. There's no lack of calories or nutrients. As a vegan, it can get a little annoying if you want to have strict control over your macro ratios in specific meals, due to the fact that most vegan protein sources are also higher in fats or carbs, and it can be a bit more difficult to hit extremely high protein needs. For general natural fitness, there's not going to be any issue. Your calories matter more than your protein, to be completely honest. Just lift heavy, eat heartily, and repeat. The finer details come later.
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    Originally Posted by zay418 View Post
    I'm new to consistent & disciplined training & I'm pretty damn small lmao (5'6-5'7 <130lbs) & I was trying to see if any of you guys have followed a vegan diet while bulking or know of a good one? I absolutely do not want to consume meat, especially red, so please only vegan suggestions. I know there are different forms of alternatives, but I have absolutely no idea where to start. Any & all input/help is much appreciated
    Hey buddy! I am also a vegan like you and my meals usually includes quinoa, avocado bread, nuts, green vegetables, smoothies and tofu sandwiches, these are one of the foods with high calories preferable for vegans, also being a vegan it is very important to maintain the Vitamin B12 in the body since vegan foods lacks this vitamin so I make sure not to miss my ginihealth vegan supplements as well.
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