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    We've always been fascinated by aliens, and that's putting it mildly. And mathematically speaking, aliens should exist.

    "There are two trillion other galaxies we can see, each with a 100 billion Earth-like worlds," said Seth Shostak , the senior astronomer at the SETI Institute. [SETI stands for the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.] "100 billion, OK? It's hard to believe they're all sterile."

    Correspondent David Pogue asked, "I happen to know that this is sort of a trick question when people say, 'Do UFOs exist?'"

    "Well, I mean, obviously UFOs exist, 'cause that just means unidentified flying objects," Shostak said. "But the real issue here is not that you see things in the sky, it's what you claim they might be."



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    I have been keeping up with this, MT. It is fascinating. More leaks are coming out and the Pentagon will be making a public report in the next couple of months.

    The last video I saw was taped off an aircraft carrier by Navy sailors. The object was over the water flying, it stopped and then went under water. There are reports that some have been tracked going hundreds of mph under water.

    Here's a couple links:

    Ex-UFO Pentagon program chief outlines 'compelling' UFO theories and 'unique' vehicle characteristics

    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-the...n-chief-report

    UFO Fragments Are Likely In Lockheed Martin’s Possession, Says Ex-Sen. Harry Reid

    https://deadline.com/2021/04/ufo-fra...id-1234748095/
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    All the technology and they come up with crappy blurry videos
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    All the technology and they come up with crappy blurry videos
    Most are night videos using night vision. Most only visible with infrared vision. YeH, WTF.

    Another interesting thought is that these UAPs are in restricted military airspace. Maybe everywhere else too, but when they mess with the military and have been for a couple of decades, it is a security threat.
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    I’ve always been intrigued by ufo stuff, ancient technology that we still can’t figure out today. I watch a lot of shows about it. Not a fan of the first person account stuff, but looking at things that have been discovered like a piece of metal found in a coal seam that includes chlorine in the alloy which isn’t even known how to do today. Baghdad batteries found. Crazy precision in high hardness stone architecture that is dated back to practically the Stone Age.

    There’s a physicist that determined it’s basically impossible for extraterrestrial life not to exist. I think it’s called the Frank Drake equation.

    The moon is weird too. It basically seems to be hollow and made of metal under the surface. When they jettisoned a fuel tank that landed on the lunar surface it rang like a bell. NASA repeated this later intentionally with same result. A hollow object cannot be a natural satellite according to something or other (can’t remember why but it made sense lol - think it had to do with density/gravitational forces). The position of the moon, relative to its size, from the earth and sun is such that it’s basically statistically impossible for it to be random, how we have solar eclipses etc., not to mention it has a locked orbit and does not rotate making current theories of capture or recapture of bits from earth improbable.

    Interesting stuff. The former president of Lockheed “Skunk Works” basically said we had the tech to take ET home now, like 20 years ago just before he died. Surely some of the ufos are military, but some might not be. We certainly had an impressive tech boom since not too long after “Roswell”.
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    Damn, so they saw my spacecraft, I must have forgot to switch the cloaking thingamjiggy on again.

    errrr....... Aliens??? That's crazy talk. There's no aliens from Zeta Reticuli or anywhere down here on earth planet. Not that Zeta Reticuli is anywhere special. I just pulled that name from the top of my heads. Definitely no reason to poke around out there with your high power telescopes. Nothing to see there but gassy clouds.
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    No clue what that is but a super advanced species from thousands of lightyears away sneaking around Earth is pretty low on my list of things to jump to.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    All the technology and they come up with crappy blurry videos
    They have plenty of other videos.

    Flying saucer pulls alongside plane, window slowly winds down a green hand sticks out flips the single finger salute, hand goes back and window up, then it speeds off.

    They can't release that one for example, on TV because the gesture is rude and there'd be too many complaints, so the blurry night vision ones are the only ones they can release.
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    No clue what that is but a super advanced species from thousands of lightyears away sneaking around Earth is pretty low on my list of things to jump to.
    I do agree with this. However, with such beyond physics characteristics capabilities that are known, is it too far fetched to imagine another dimension that is not thousands of light-years away? Not saying it is, but these things are seen every day by military personnel.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    ... However, with such beyond physics characteristics capabilities that are known...
    Examples, please.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    Examples, please.
    I cannot give example of another dimension. That is just far speculation by me.

    Pentagon Confirms 'Pyramid-Shaped' UFO Video Footage Is Authentic

    https://www.sciencealert.com/pentago...e-is-authentic

    60 Minutes Interview with Navy Pilots

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-uf...es-2021-05-16/

    https://www.newsweek.com/5-past-ufo-...-force-1592053



    Ex-UFO Pentagon program chief outlines 'compelling' UFO theories and 'unique' vehicle characteristics

    https://www.foxnews.com/tech/ufo-the...n-chief-report

    UFO Fragments Are Likely In Lockheed Martin’s Possession, Says Ex-Sen. Harry Reid

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    I cannot give example of another dimension...
    That, I know.

    I checked out the links and saw proof of nothing. The images could be anything. Maybe, I missed it, but I saw nothing related to beyond physics characteristics capabilities.

    There are definitely other dimensions, but just not like as portrayed in Fringe.
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    Originally Posted by supramax View Post
    That, I know.

    I checked out the links and saw proof of nothing. The images could be anything. Maybe, I missed it, but I saw nothing related to beyond physics characteristics capabilities.

    There are definitely other dimensions, but just not like as portrayed in Fringe.
    No one including me has claimed proof. But, the Pentagon will be making a public report next month.

    So, if it turns out to be teenagers from Russia playing the US government, so be it.
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    No one including me has claimed proof. But, the Pentagon will be making a public report next month.

    So, if it turns out to be teenagers from Russia playing the US government, so be it.

    Good links Mark.

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    Good links Mark.

    I am a believer, there are more than us bouncing around somewhere. Whether they have paid us a visit yet, I dunno.
    I'm sure the universe is absolutely teeming with life. I doubt that UFO's are spaceships maned by aliens, though.
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    I'm sure the universe is absolutely teeming with life. I doubt that UFO's are spaceships maned by aliens, though.
    Who the fuk said they were? You are one anal motherfuker, are you a complete dipsh!t every day? or do you take an occasional day off?
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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    Who the fuk said they were? You are one anal motherfuker, are you a complete dipsh!t every day? or do you take an occasional day off?
    Something is wrong with you, mentally.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I do agree with this. However, with such beyond physics characteristics capabilities that are known, is it too far fetched to imagine another dimension that is not thousands of light-years away? Not saying it is, but these things are seen every day by military personnel.
    Statistically speaking it’s an almost absolute certainty that advanced alien lifeforms exist that are technologically advanced to the point of it being considered “magic” to the average human.

    It’s also statistically probable that the military have technology beyond the current comprehension of the average human.

    Who knows which it is, but if it’s Aliens we’re all going to be really frustrated when the government starts saying they have no idea where it came from or whose flying it… if it’s part of the defense black budget we’re going to be equally frustrated by not getting any real information about it due to “national security concerns”.

    I’ve accepted any real information on UFOs is an unmarked box reserved for only a special few and will remain a complete mystery to everyone else for the foreseeable future. So I don’t worry about it. An alien invasion would be cool to see though.
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    Good links Mark.

    I am a believer, there are more than us bouncing around somewhere. Whether they have paid us a visit yet, I dunno.
    Hopefully next month we will find out more, but I hope the Pentagon doesn't just insult us saying they are all weather balloons

    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Statistically speaking it’s an almost absolute certainty that advanced alien lifeforms exist that are technologically advanced to the point of it being considered “magic” to the average human.

    It’s also statistically probable that the military have technology beyond the current comprehension of the average human.

    Who knows which it is, but if it’s Aliens we’re all going to be really frustrated when the government starts saying they have no idea where it came from or whose flying it… if it’s part of the defense black budget we’re going to be equally frustrated by not getting any real information about it due to “national security concerns”.

    I’ve accepted any real information on UFOs is an unmarked box reserved for only a special few and will remain a complete mystery to everyone else for the foreseeable future. So I don’t worry about it. An alien invasion would be cool to see though.
    I also think that since this has been going on for a couple of decades at least, I wonder why these things haven't been weaponized - yet? Are "they" observing or just what are they doing messing with our military? Is Russia and China experiencing the same phenomena?
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Hopefully next month we will find out more, but I hope the Pentagon doesn't just insult us saying they are all weather balloons



    I also think that since this has been going on for a couple of decades at least, I wonder why these things haven't been weaponized - yet? Are "they" observing or just what are they doing messing with our military? Is Russia and China experiencing the same phenomena?
    Movies have taught me that Aliens generally only care about New York or some random bit of farmland in the Midwest. Sometimes some more adventurous aliens may attack London or Tokyo. But then you have the ones who go for anywhere that you can immediately recognize from a single image. Sydney Opera house, Eiffel Tower, pyramids, MT Rushmore, Big Ben, etc. Those are the ones like other tourists, just trying to get those recognizable selfies for Facebook. Gotta get those intergalactic likes.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Hopefully next month we will find out more, but I hope the Pentagon doesn't just insult us saying they are all weather balloons



    I also think that since this has been going on for a couple of decades at least, I wonder why these things haven't been weaponized - yet? Are "they" observing or just what are they doing messing with our military? Is Russia and China experiencing the same phenomena?
    Yes. These occurrences don't just happen in the US. Actually there was a situation where Regan and the Soviet Union leader at the time had an emergency phone convo to keep them from nuking us due to UFO activity making it appear on radar we were sending some "fun" their direction. It was never determined what the objects were that invaded their airspace from our region.
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    Yes. These occurrences don't just happen in the US. Actually there was a situation where Regan and the Soviet Union leader at the time had an emergency phone convo to keep them from nuking us due to UFO activity making it appear on radar we were sending some "fun" their direction. It was never determined what the objects were that invaded their airspace from our region.
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    Originally Posted by Plateauplower View Post
    Einstein theorized that energy and gravity can bend space-time. With enough energy, seemingly insurmountable distances might not be a thing.
    There's only time by the Sun and that measurement applied inwardly, psychologically. Just because gravity affects the instrument that measures, doesn't mean it affects what is measured.
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    Originally Posted by Plateauplower View Post
    Yes. These occurrences don't just happen in the US. Actually there was a situation where Regan and the Soviet Union leader at the time had an emergency phone convo to keep them from nuking us due to UFO activity making it appear on radar we were sending some "fun" their direction. It was never determined what the objects were that invaded their airspace from our region.
    I did a stint with NORAD, a long one.. On 9th November 79 we had a computer glitch, where sim data got routed to real time. I was working at a remote control center that day, about 40 of us in the ops room when the Alert went off. Something we trained for daily and bam, we were getting the real deal unfolding in front of us. We were busy dealing with and following checklists to get things prepared for the inevitable can of whoop as that was headed our way. It only last about 7 minutes before we got the word to stop, but man there were some puckering asses in that ops center that day. Many thoughts went through my head that day, some I never want to think about again. With that said, it was just like we trained for and we performed flawlessly. That gave me even more confidence that if sh!t went down, we could definitely do our job in an outstanding manner.

    Here is some copy and paste on what transpired. Weird finding it on the internet when you worked in a classified world for so long.



    Computer errors at the NORAD headquarters in Peterson Air Force Base, the Strategic Air Command command post in Offutt Air Force Base, the National Military Command Center in the Pentagon, and the Alternate National Military Command Center in the Raven Rock Mountain Complex led to alarm and full preparation for a nonexistent large-scale Soviet attack.[4][5] NORAD notified national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski that the Soviet Union had launched 250 ballistic missiles with a trajectory for the United States, stating that a decision to retaliate would need to be made by the president within 3 to 7 minutes. NORAD computers then placed the number of incoming missiles at 2,200.[24] Strategic Air Command was notified, and nuclear bombers prepared for takeoff. Within six to seven minutes of the initial response, PAVE PAWS satellite and radar systems were able to confirm that the attack was a false alarm.[4][7][25]
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    Don't need a lot of Aliens, just enough to make people rethink the bible

    There is a book by William Bradley called Gods of Eden that covers the religion aspect a bit. The idea is that we're in an cold war with malevolent aliens who can manipulate consciousness, zero point energy, and our perceptions and create matter on the nano-scale. These folks have been manipulating humans throughout our history, first with inspiring world religions by appearing as gods, and more recently by deliberately crashing aircraft to give us technology or directly implanting new ideas into humans brains that will propagate conflict to keep us divided and stop us unifying as a species. They are hostile to human's spiritual development and parasitically feeding of our negative emotions, fear, and depression, and destructive urges while keeping us enslaved. All of the major conflicts between us have been manufactured by them. Including the current religious terrorism and World War 2 with the Nazi's. Earth is already enslaved. Our history is a lie.

    So of course there is a world wide extra-governmental cabal who are fighting a secret war against the these folks. The known cold war is at least partly a cover for what was really going on in relation to the phenomenon. When we developed nuclear weapons, ET's appeared at every test. Supposed rivals like America and Russia both experienced these encounters. We conducted tests in the atmosphere and space not as warmongering but because we discovered EMP could bring down UFO's and with all their technological superiority they could not combat them.

    Basically we’re involved in a complex game of chess with a vastly superior and hostile enemy. The book is a bit nuts but highly entertaining.
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    I did a stint with NORAD, a long one.. On 9th November 79 we had a computer glitch, where sim data got routed to real time. I was working at a remote control center that day, about 40 of us in the ops room when the Alert went off. Something we trained for daily and bam, we were getting the real deal unfolding in front of us. We were busy dealing with and following checklists to get things prepared for the inevitable can of whoop as that was headed our way. It only last about 7 minutes before we got the word to stop, but man there were some puckering asses in that ops center that day. Many thoughts went through my head that day, some I never want to think about again. With that said, it was just like we trained for and we performed flawlessly. That gave me even more confidence that if sh!t went down, we could definitely do our job in an outstanding manner.

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    Computer errors at the NORAD headquarters in Peterson Air Force Base, the Strategic Air Command command post in Offutt Air Force Base, the National Military Command Center in the Pentagon, and the Alternate National Military Command Center in the Raven Rock Mountain Complex led to alarm and full preparation for a nonexistent large-scale Soviet attack.[4][5] NORAD notified national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski that the Soviet Union had launched 250 ballistic missiles with a trajectory for the United States, stating that a decision to retaliate would need to be made by the president within 3 to 7 minutes. NORAD computers then placed the number of incoming missiles at 2,200.[24] Strategic Air Command was notified, and nuclear bombers prepared for takeoff. Within six to seven minutes of the initial response, PAVE PAWS satellite and radar systems were able to confirm that the attack was a false alarm.[4][7][25]
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