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    Vince gironda’s hormone precursor shake

    For the “before” picture weakling or anyone needing a kickstart to girly man hormone levels.

    Try this and see if you get bigger and feel better.


    12 raw fertile eggs, 1/3 cup of milk-egg protein powder, 12 ounces of half-and-half and a banana (skip banana if on low carb or ketogenic diet, its only for taste).

    Sip between meals throughout the day.


    Way more info can be found online, posted this in case people haven’t heard of the Iron Guru
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    Not sure if you’re aware, but raw eggs have poor bioavailability among other concerns
    The power of carbs compels me!

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Not sure if you’re aware, but raw eggs have poor bioavailability among other concerns
    And we have a candidate!
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    And we have a candidate!
    My test levels are pretty high as is.

    But as I said, raw egg is only about 50% bioavailable so this really isn’t a wise protocol if the goal is anabolism.

    Furthermore sipping protein etc between meals would be counterproductive to MPS stimulation.
    The power of carbs compels me!

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    My test levels are pretty high as is.

    But as I said, raw egg is only about 50% bioavailable so this really isn’t a wise protocol if the goal is anabolism.

    Furthermore sipping protein etc between meals would be counterproductive to MPS stimulation.
    Why take a chance and get sand kicked in your face at the beach, why have people wonder if you lift weights or not. This is a shake that will stimulate growth, the Iron Guru had Arnold drinking this.
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    Why take a chance and get sand kicked in your face at the beach, why have people wonder if you lift weights or not. This is a shake that will stimulate growth, the Iron Guru had Arnold drinking this.
    I have no what that first sentence means.

    However, the concept of “this person did this so it’s a good idea” is not a reliable means to justify doing it.

    Anyway, just pointing out the objective issues with the approach.

    Outside of this shake even, Vince was a proponent of low-carb, which has been shown to - if anything - reduce testosterone levels compared to moderate or high carb dieting. Whether he or Arnold were big does not seem relevant because, at least in Arnold’s sake, he didn’t need to make his own hormones.

    Carry on.
    The power of carbs compels me!

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I have no what that first sentence means.

    However, the concept of “this person did this so it’s a good idea” is not a reliable means to justify doing it.

    Anyway, just pointing out the objective issues with the approach.

    Outside of this shake even, Vince was a proponent of low-carb, which has been shown to - if anything - reduce testosterone levels compared to moderate or high carb dieting. Whether he or Arnold were big does not seem relevant because, at least in Arnold’s sake, he didn’t need to make his own hormones.

    Carry on.
    It’s delicious, nutritious and if you add the last ingredient it’s bananalicious!
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    It’s delicious, nutritious and if you add the last ingredient it’s bananalicious!
    I thought the purpose was promoting hormone production, but if you like the taste, more power to you.
    The power of carbs compels me!

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I thought the purpose was promoting hormone production, but if you like the taste, more power to you.
    This is perfect for an ectomorph too. Work out hard, eat a lot and have nothing to show for it? This shake is made for that! The Iron Guru made it specifically for hardgainers, it happens to be absolutely delicious.
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    1600 plus calories in a shake?
    12 raw eggs and cream drink you carry around all day? Getting warm and rotten?
    You’re trolling right op?
    Ectomorphic body type isn’t a real thing

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    Originally Posted by snailsrus View Post
    1600 plus calories in a shake?
    12 raw eggs and cream drink you carry around all day? Getting warm and rotten?
    You’re trolling right op?
    Ectomorphic body type isn’t a real thing
    https://oldschooltrainer.com/vince-g...r-muscle-gain/

    I don’t make this stuff up

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    Can you substitute raw UNfertilized eggs in the concoction? There is a dearth of fertilized eggs in my town. Just like there is a dearth of dessicated liver tablets or capsules. I checked Wal Mart and a health food store yesterday, neither one had liver tablets.

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    Great shake if you want high LDL and salmonella poisoning.

    What hard gainers need is a sustained caloric surplus, not dumb ideas from a muscle magazine from the 80s.

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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Great shake if you want high LDL and salmonella poisoning.

    What hard gainers need is a sustained caloric surplus, not dumb ideas from a muscle magazine from the 80s.
    OPs sig should say " My info is DATED"
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    Can you substitute raw UNfertilized eggs in the concoction? There is a dearth of fertilized eggs in my town. Just like there is a dearth of dessicated liver tablets or capsules. I checked Wal Mart and a health food store yesterday, neither one had liver tablets.
    I suppose you can, Ive done the pasture raised eggs before and the shake I’ve added cinnamon but I was way thinner and about 25 years younger
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    Originally Posted by Ghawk21 View Post
    OPs sig should say " My info is DATED"
    Dated just like my physique

    Any current physique pics from you experts ?
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    Dated just like my physique

    Any current physique pics from you experts ?
    Most of your posts are a better fit for the misc.

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    Great shake if you want high LDL and salmonella poisoning.

    What hard gainers need is a sustained caloric surplus, not dumb ideas from a muscle magazine from the 80s.
    His ideas are so dumb he produced a few mr Olympias

    Your credentials please ?
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Most of your posts are a better fit for the misc.
    This is nutrition based but you’re welcome to your opinion sir
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    I suppose you can, Ive done the pasture raised eggs before and the shake I’ve added cinnamon but I was way thinner and about 25 years younger
    How about hard boiled eggs? They don't need a special container and don't need to be refridgerated. It can be called the "Hard Boiled Egg" diet. It's similar to the Dog Food diet, where you carry around dry dog food in your pockets and munch on it all day. I gained about 6 pounds of lean muscle mass on it in about 3 months. Dog food is nutritionally complete. It has the proper mix of protein, fat and carbs. I had to stop the diet after 3 months because I ended up in an I.C.U. I wasn't sick or having any food poisoning from the diet. I got hit by a car while sitting in the street licking my balls.

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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    How about hard boiled eggs? They don't need a special container and don't need to be refridgerated. It can be called the "Hard Boiled Egg" diet. It's similar to the Dog Food diet, where you carry around dry dog food in your pockets and munch on it all day. I gained about 6 pounds of lean muscle mass on it in about 3 months. Dog food is nutritionally complete. It has the proper mix of protein, fat and carbs. I had to stop the diet after 3 months because I ended up in an I.C.U. I wasn't sick or having any food poisoning from the diet. I got hit by a car while sitting in the street licking my balls.
    If I could lick my balls I wouldn’t be worried about building my physique...in fact, I doubt I’d wanna leave the house
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    OP’s responses in this thread are further confirmation that he consistently fails to provide useful or scientifically supported input in this forum area.

    Even when I try to be objectively helpful in my responses and provide accurate, impartial points, OP simply ignores the information and defers to his biases and fallacious methods of reason.

    And here I thought maybe I had been hard on him in the past, now I see he truly is just not worth my time or attention; just another troll.
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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    His ideas are so dumb he produced a few mr Olympias
    Right, and it was the raw egg shakes that got them there. Uh huh.

    Gironda died in the previous century. Science has come a long way. We now know that raw eggs are a poor source of protein and that eating 12 eggs a day increases LDL in most people + their risk of salmonella poisoning.

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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Right, and it was the raw egg shakes that got them there. Uh huh.

    Gironda died in the previous century. Science has come a long way. We now know that raw eggs are a poor source of protein and that eating 12 eggs a day increases LDL in most people + their risk of salmonella poisoning.
    I don’t think OP cares... I mentioned almost all of this in my early posts.
    The power of carbs compels me!

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    Originally Posted by Bigdumogre View Post
    I rather drink that connors guys shake - little bit of someone’s semen then daily drink your own piss and small amounts of your feces.
    I’ve done urotherapy in the past
    my info is GOLD

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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I don’t think OP cares... I mentioned almost all of this in my early posts.
    It’s info, anything beyond that is what you make it for yourself
    my info is GOLD

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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    This is nutrition based but you’re welcome to your opinion sir
    There's a nutrition misc.

    Just look at how many people think you are trolling.

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    Originally Posted by ManwittaPlan View Post
    It’s info, anything beyond that is what you make it for yourself
    No, it’s opinion.

    If I said I think the moon is made of blue cheese that doesn’t mean it’s true or based in science.
    The power of carbs compels me!

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