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    Help me buy a new car Misc!

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    I was gonna say a 2019 used Kia Stinger GT2, but damn these used car prices are crazy.

    Probably find a lower end trim for around that price if you don't mind.
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    Since you mentioned Acura...they're coming out with a new compact this year. They've been more silent about it than the redesigned TLX as far as I can tell.
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    Originally Posted by Azzurri View Post
    I was gonna say a 2019 used Kia Stinger GT2, but damn these used car prices are crazy.

    Probably find a lower end trim for around that price if you don't mind.
    Yeah GT2 would be out of my comfortable range. I would be looking at base or premium model which I am ok with. They still look slick and have some good zip to them

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    Possibly, but most I see in my area are RWD and the lady despises the look of it lol

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    Since you mentioned Acura...they're coming out with a new compact this year. They've been more silent about it than the redesigned TLX as far as I can tell.
    Interdasting. Sounds like it might be an Integra reboot?

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    OK, Stinger was my top option so far, but this looks promising, hot damm gonna have to give this one a good look

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    Originally Posted by JPG13 View Post



    OK, Stinger was my top option so far, but this looks promising, hot damm gonna have to give this one a good look


    been driving for a year...ask anything..glides like butter on highway at 80 mph. super quiet cabin but 250hp & 310 lb ft torque so has a nice punchiness to it. probably the most understated sedan in the understated market.

    interior is very premium leather and clean like slightly older BMWs before they became gadgety.


    only con: doesn't come in AWD
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    Mazda 6
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    Came in to say this. The CX-5 is AWD if the OP was willing to consider those.
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    I'd check out the Japanese and Korean brands (except Nissan) and VW. They all make mid-size sedans that compete in the same market. If you're not a car guy with a strong brand preference it makes sense to sit in them, test drive them and see what speaks to you. Every opinion you get here is biased based on what we like because we're car people

    I'd then compare used car prices to the new ones - normally it makes sense to buy used but the used market is insane and you might not be getting as big of a discount as you'd expect
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    Originally Posted by Nocturnal310 View Post
    been driving for a year...ask anything..glides like butter on highway at 80 mph. super quiet cabin but 250hp & 310 lb ft torque so has a nice punchiness to it. probably the most understated sedan in the understated market.

    interior is very premium leather and clean like slightly older BMWs before they became gadgety.


    only con: doesn't come in AWD
    How is it in the winter? It seems heavy enough that FWD should be fine as long as it isn't a crazy blizzard

    Are you in the grand touring or the grand touring reserved? The minimal package I would go is grand touring to get the extra power.
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    Kia stinger is actually pretty dope
    I feel like they get a bad rap cuz they are a Kia but they seem quick and I love the slick look to them
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    Yeah GT2 would be out of my comfortable range. I would be looking at base or premium model which I am ok with. They still look slick and have some good zip to them



    Possibly, but most I see in my area are RWD and the lady despises the look of it lol


    Interdasting. Sounds like it might be an Integra reboot?



    OK, Stinger was my top option so far, but this looks promising, hot damm gonna have to give this one a good look



    I've never been a truck guy really. Gonna sell me on one?
    You could get a nice used Tundra or F150 for $30k. Trucks are comfortable and useful daily drivers - a lot more interior room in the cabin and around the legs in a truck, and the suspension and tires absorb more impact from the road/potholes so the ride quality is better. Plus trucks have 4x4 so they are less limited in where they can travel, and they hold onto their value better. I really think trucks make better luxury vehicles than cars.
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    Originally Posted by JPG13 View Post
    How is it in the winter? It seems heavy enough that FWD should be fine as long as it isn't a crazy blizzard

    Are you in the grand touring or the grand touring reserved? The minimal package I would go is grand touring to get the extra power.
    i did a TON of driving this winter in upstate NY and on all season tires...some of the hiking trailheads were covered in frozen hard ice, and I had no issues getting in and out of them. I even went over some powdery snow in parking areas and i was fine..Did some driving in light snow covered roads and it was fine too. the steering wheel has very good direct feel so you always know your traction...I wouldnt be driving it in a blizzard though but then no one should be driving in a blizzard anyway regardless of AWD and winter tires.
    Try not to park it in more than 4 inches snow and you should be good and not get stuck.

    Good thing about FWD is that you dont have to worry about hydroplaning and backseat passengers are more comfy in FWD
    Its a pretty heavy car, goes over things easily and even if a giant semi goes past you in opposite direction of the road, the wind blast doesnt shake the car....its a pretty aerodynamic & grounded car.
    I have the grand touring ....which has same power as top trim but lacks power folding mirrors and memory seats..would have gotten grand touring reserve if they had it in my fav color.


    I am enjoying mazda experience so far
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    2018 Genesis G90 Sedan Awd 4 door

    ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

    Displacement: 307 cu in, 5038 cc
    Power: 420 hp @ 6000 rpm
    Torque: 383 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm

    TRANSMISSION: 8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

    CHASSIS:
    Suspension (F/R): multilink/multilink
    Brakes (F/R): 14.8-in vented disc/13.4-in vented disc
    Tires: Continental ContiProContact, F: 245/45R-19 98W M+S R: 275/40R-19 101W M+S

    DIMENSIONS:
    Wheelbase: 124.4 in
    Length: 204.9 in
    Width: 75.4 in Height: 58.9 in
    Passenger volume: 113 cu ft
    Trunk volume: 16 cu ft
    Curb weight: 4972 lb

    C/D TEST RESULTS:
    Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 12.4 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 21.3 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.8 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 3.0 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.9 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 105 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 172 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.84 g*
    *stability-control-inhibited

    C/D FUEL ECONOMY:
    Observed: 20 mpg
    75-mph highway driving: 25 mpg
    Highway range: 540 miles

    The g80 is just a bit less powerful but cheaper
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    2018 Genesis G90 Sedan Awd 4 door

    ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 32-valve V-8, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

    Displacement: 307 cu in, 5038 cc
    Power: 420 hp @ 6000 rpm
    Torque: 383 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm

    TRANSMISSION: 8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

    CHASSIS:
    Suspension (F/R): multilink/multilink
    Brakes (F/R): 14.8-in vented disc/13.4-in vented disc
    Tires: Continental ContiProContact, F: 245/45R-19 98W M+S R: 275/40R-19 101W M+S

    DIMENSIONS:
    Wheelbase: 124.4 in
    Length: 204.9 in
    Width: 75.4 in Height: 58.9 in
    Passenger volume: 113 cu ft
    Trunk volume: 16 cu ft
    Curb weight: 4972 lb

    C/D TEST RESULTS:
    Zero to 60 mph: 5.1 sec
    Zero to 100 mph: 12.4 sec
    Zero to 130 mph: 21.3 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.8 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 3.0 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.9 sec
    Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 105 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 172 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.84 g*
    *stability-control-inhibited

    C/D FUEL ECONOMY:
    Observed: 20 mpg
    75-mph highway driving: 25 mpg
    Highway range: 540 miles

    The g80 is just a bit less powerful but cheaper
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