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    Exclamation So why is ff7 remake good?

    Just started playing it and I’m just smashing the square button

    Does it get any better?
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    Honestly you sorta need to be a fan of the original for it to seem really special. Nostalgia plays into the way people feel about the game big time, and there's a lot of gamers who grew up saying the original is one of their best games of all time. Final Fantasy has always really cultish like that.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Honestly you sorta need to be a fan of the original for it to seem really special. Nostalgia plays into the way people feel about the game big time, and there's a lot of gamers who grew up saying the original is one of their best games of all time. Final Fantasy has always really cultish like that.
    I think that this is pretty spot on. The original game was released when I was young but I remember that almost everyone played it. If a person played video games at all there was a good chance that they played it, it was that big of a deal.
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    The Nostalgia factor is what made it special to me but if not for that there's a bunch of letdowns with the game itself. Funny enough, I enjoy the combat alot but I agree with lots of square smashing. Music is fantastic and sets the mood so well. And of course character interactions are really nice. Been a year since I played but the things I disliked off the top of my head:

    - Barret is an annoying kunt
    - game is a corridor simulator. Barely any open spaces and you're always walking in a line along some narrow boring pathway
    - can't visit upper levels of city
    - slums feel so small
    - not much to do in the slums
    - loading screens
    - forced walking scenes
    - no armor or weapon customization
    - extremely weak side missions
    - no exploration/secrets/beautiful locations
    -very weak npc interactions
    -shoving sephiroth down your throat every 5 mins makes it lose excitement
    -having you beat sephiroth in the first game of a 3 part series
    -final acts at the lab were incredibly boring and tedious
    -having to constantly switch in and out materia due to parties constantly changing
    - to get summons you don't go out into the world to find them. You fight them in an in-game virtual reality battle and then you receive the summon in real. So stupid and lazy.
    - the most important part is that they changed the story entirely, making it a sequel rather than a faithful retelling.
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    I've never played a Final Fantasy game. Closest I got was Super Mario RPG. But we're all getting the remake in PS+. Good starting point?
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    It's not. Combat in these games has tanked since they life turn based behind. 7 thrives on nostalgia and just marginally better combat than 15, which has one of the worst combat systems I've ever encountered.
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    Wasn't for me either. But it seems more people than not love those types of games.
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    The new battle system is pretty fun. I don't think you can beat the game on regular difficulty by smashing square, it's pretty challenging to manage cooldowns on 3 characters simultaneously during semi realtime battles. Good graphics too, and classic nostalgic characters.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    The Nostalgia factor is what made it special to me but if not for that there's a bunch of letdowns with the game itself. Funny enough, I enjoy the combat alot but I agree with lots of square smashing. Music is fantastic and sets the mood so well. And of course character interactions are really nice. Been a year since I played but the things I disliked off the top of my head:

    - Barret is an annoying kunt
    - game is a corridor simulator. Barely any open spaces and you're always walking in a line along some narrow boring pathway
    - can't visit upper levels of city
    - slums feel so small
    - not much to do in the slums
    - loading screens
    - forced walking scenes
    - no armor or weapon customization
    - extremely weak side missions
    - no exploration/secrets/beautiful locations
    -very weak npc interactions
    -shoving sephiroth down your throat every 5 mins makes it lose excitement
    -having you beat sephiroth in the first game of a 3 part series
    -final acts at the lab were incredibly boring and tedious
    -having to constantly switch in and out materia due to parties constantly changing
    - to get summons you don't go out into the world to find them. You fight them in an in-game virtual reality battle and then you receive the summon in real. So stupid and lazy.
    - the most important part is that they changed the story entirely, making it a sequel rather than a faithful retelling.
    Thanks. That's disappointing. Why the F would they change the F'ing story? That's the main thing.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    The Nostalgia factor is what made it special to me but if not for that there's a bunch of letdowns with the game itself. Funny enough, I enjoy the combat alot but I agree with lots of square smashing. Music is fantastic and sets the mood so well. And of course character interactions are really nice. Been a year since I played but the things I disliked off the top of my head:

    - Barret is an annoying kunt
    - game is a corridor simulator. Barely any open spaces and you're always walking in a line along some narrow boring pathway
    - can't visit upper levels of city
    - slums feel so small
    - not much to do in the slums
    - loading screens
    - forced walking scenes
    - no armor or weapon customization
    - extremely weak side missions
    - no exploration/secrets/beautiful locations
    -very weak npc interactions
    -shoving sephiroth down your throat every 5 mins makes it lose excitement
    -having you beat sephiroth in the first game of a 3 part series
    -final acts at the lab were incredibly boring and tedious
    -having to constantly switch in and out materia due to parties constantly changing
    - to get summons you don't go out into the world to find them. You fight them in an in-game virtual reality battle and then you receive the summon in real. So stupid and lazy.
    - the most important part is that they changed the story entirely, making it a sequel rather than a faithful retelling.
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    you're clearly not maximizing the battle system or the characters strengths

    because once you get to 3 party/and later VR simulations on hard mode, the battle system shines and is the best battle system ive played for a FF game

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    Thanks. That's disappointing. Why the F would they change the F'ing story? That's the main thing.
    they're building up to retcon Aerith's death, guaranteed.
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    Originally Posted by PassiveLearner View Post
    Thanks. That's disappointing. Why the F would they change the F'ing story? That's the main thing.
    Because its not really a remake. Its more like a sequel.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    The Nostalgia factor is what made it special to me but if not for that there's a bunch of letdowns with the game itself. Funny enough, I enjoy the combat alot but I agree with lots of square smashing. Music is fantastic and sets the mood so well. And of course character interactions are really nice. Been a year since I played but the things I disliked off the top of my head:

    - Barret is an annoying kunt
    - game is a corridor simulator. Barely any open spaces and you're always walking in a line along some narrow boring pathway
    - can't visit upper levels of city
    - slums feel so small
    - not much to do in the slums
    - loading screens
    - forced walking scenes
    - no armor or weapon customization
    - extremely weak side missions
    - no exploration/secrets/beautiful locations
    -very weak npc interactions
    -shoving sephiroth down your throat every 5 mins makes it lose excitement
    -having you beat sephiroth in the first game of a 3 part series
    -final acts at the lab were incredibly boring and tedious
    -having to constantly switch in and out materia due to parties constantly changing
    - to get summons you don't go out into the world to find them. You fight them in an in-game virtual reality battle and then you receive the summon in real. So stupid and lazy.
    - the most important part is that they changed the story entirely, making it a sequel rather than a faithful retelling.



    All of this .... As a complete newbie to FF7 it left a bad taste in my mouth. But I did enjoy the combat / graphics (except those super horrible ps2 era textures and backgrounds) .... It had a lot of great ideas and stuff, but clearly bogged down by hardware limitations and square enix's usual ineptness.
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    Originally Posted by Stackerbruh View Post
    It doesn't, the end. Square has dun goofed hiring Nomura
    I remember I called it long ago that the remake was going to be balls and it sounds like it did turn out to be
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    Originally Posted by DolphinPilot View Post
    I remember I called it long ago that the remake was going to be balls and it sounds like it did turn out to be
    Absolutely did not.

    I’ve been balls deep in FFVII since I was a child and I was very happy with the remake aside from the time travel nonsense.

    I look at other things like voice acting, character relationships, visuals, battle system, music, difficulty, replay value and of course story.

    The midgar part in the OG was like the most boring part of the game. The game starts to shine when it becomes open world. Midgar was “on rails” in the OG. So why should the remake be different? You can go back to like all the sectors in the remake and do whatever you want.

    And just lol at complaining at slow walking scenes.

    I didn’t expect much from the game but I was really surprised at how much I liked it. It was a joy to play srs

    Also I think they fukin NAILED Cloud. Character design and voice acting. He just sounds like a frustrated introverted chad that he is in the OG.

    They nailed every voice actor tbfh. It deserves praise
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Because its not really a remake. Its more like a sequel.
    Yet the title literally says remake. As far as mechanics, game is good but as far as story, they fuking goofd.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    All of this .... As a complete newbie to FF7 it left a bad taste in my mouth. But I did enjoy the combat / graphics (except those super horrible ps2 era textures and backgrounds) .... It had a lot of great ideas and stuff, but clearly bogged down by hardware limitations and square enix's usual ineptness.
    I mean alot of that stuff, like the slums feeling small, no armor/weapon customization, switching out materia, weak side quests, corridor simulator is really the same as the original FF7. But I'm assuming you still have an overworld to explore?

    however it seems like the dungoofed on the story but it isn't even the full game. original ff7 some of the summons you have to go out into the world and there is exploration. now I haven't played the remake so I can't comment too much on it.

    feels like they probably should have instead make some quality of life changes and since they already tweaked the battle system, maybe tweak armor/weapons and stuff rather than changing the story.
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    I'm at about Chapter 9

    The combat gets harder. Mashing square will get you murked.

    When you hear the Airbuster theme start playing, if you're a fan of the original, you will pop a boner.
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    Originally Posted by tekkenbruh View Post
    Yet the title literally says remake. As far as mechanics, game is good but as far as story, they fuking goofd.
    That’s nice but if you’ve played both the original and the “remake”, you know it’s true.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    That’s nice but if you’ve played both the original and the “remake”, you know it’s true.
    I mean yeah, I know. What I meant is that Square took a piss with that title when it's definitely not a remake.
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    I'm at about Chapter 9

    The combat gets harder. Mashing square will get you murked.

    When you hear the Airbuster theme start playing, if you're a fan of the original, you will pop a boner.
    Yep.

    Also The 1v1 boss fights were awesome.
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    The music is GODLY, it was already outstanding in the original but they were able to make the OST even better. Even the added songs ( Scarlett's theme ) and the Jukebox music are excellent.
    The graphics are out of this world, I remember being in the Shinra building and thinking " How were they able to do this!?" Insane.

    CONS:
    - I do agree with the side missions being weak, I expected more from that
    - The weapon customization is weak also but does not take away from the battle system which is excellent when you know what you're doing.
    - The camera angle can suck at times during battles when you don't even see your character but it's a very minor detail in my opinion as it doesn't take away the fun of fights.
    - Wish it was harder or had more, it wasn't very challenging to platinum.

    Pros:
    - Big fan of the FF original, it was my first game on PSX and I played that game everyday for hours, for months during high school
    - I actually enjoy the fact that it's not the entire story, I have no issue with them milking the FF7 story as much as possible as it is my favorite one of the FF series. Let them make 5 episodes if they want to, I'll be here to play them.
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