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    Chicago leases are so expensive.

    So Chicago has regular sales tax on their cars, but get this, they also charge a 9% "lease tax". Meaning you pay tax twice on the car.

    I would've really liked to lease a mid level bmw or audi but now, that seems out of the question. I just can't stomach the idea of paying a bs tax because Chicago is passing their mistakes onto the customer.

    Since that's the case, I'm now looking at the used car market, and my only question is, what brand of cars is on the same level as bmw/audi but has good reliability? I wouldn't want a used german car because I don't want to spend a ton of money repairing it.
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    Used raptors and g wagons are relatively affordable from a cost of ownership standpoint due to their lack of depreciation, and are more comfortable to daily drive than a BMW with 20" wheels. The F150 is more affordable, but the G550/G63 is more baller.

    2014 BMW M5 for ~$33k is an affordable used vehicle, just use your stock portfolio to insure yourself against maintenance/repair expenses. Most of the depreciation has already been experienced on this car, and the S63tu engine is relatively reliable since you can likely afford to maintain and fix it


    981 Porsche Cayman is pretty dope also and I think they're relatively affordable, could be wrong but that seems to be the sentiment
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    1) Get out of Illinois ASAP. It's a sinking ship with corruption so deep that even more taxes are coming. They are #1 in debt in the nation with assets of $53 billion but liabilities of $243 billion(majority pensions). I escaped to California and my property taxes are lower than when I was living in Lake County in a much cheaper house.

    2) Mercedes seems to be more reliable than the two you've mentioned. Non 4matic W222 S classes from 2015-2017 with the V8 seem especially robust except for the air suspension, still better than the previous airmatic/ABC.

    3) I wouldn't say Lexus is on par but close to those and they're VERY reliable, especially those built in Japan. GX and LX are kings for the largest percentage still on the road at over 200k miles. You could explore the F line for sportiness.
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    Originally Posted by JIA View Post
    1) Get out of Illinois ASAP. It's a sinking ship with corruption so deep that even more taxes are coming. They are #1 in debt in the nation with assets of $53 billion but liabilities of $243 billion(majority pensions). I escaped to California and my property taxes are lower than when I was living in Lake County in a much cheaper house.

    2) Mercedes seems to be more reliable than the two you've mentioned. Non 4matic W222 S classes from 2015-2017 with the V8 seem especially robust except for the air suspension, still better than the previous airmatic/ABC.

    3) I wouldn't say Lexus is on par but close to those and they're VERY reliable, especially those built in Japan. GX and LX are kings for the largest percentage still on the road at over 200k miles. You could explore the F line for sportiness.
    The all new Lexus IS500 actually really piques my interest. It wouldn't be a used purchase, but new Toyotas (and I assume this extends to Lexus, but I could be wrong) don't really depreciate so that offsets some of the financial impact of buying new. But 470 HP N/A V8 in a four door lexus is cooler to me than a chit-sounding twin turbo I6 in a BMW M3 even, I'd be interested in checking that out if I were in the market
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    Lol @ living in that chithole city. Detroit 2.0.
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    Originally Posted by JIA View Post
    1) Get out of Illinois ASAP. It's a sinking ship with corruption so deep that even more taxes are coming. They are #1 in debt in the nation with assets of $53 billion but liabilities of $243 billion(majority pensions). I escaped to California and my property taxes are lower than when I was living in Lake County in a much cheaper house.
    It's insane that even California is a better option than this chithole.
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    another reason not to live in chicago.
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    why would you even want to live in chicago?

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