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    The Rockers should've been a bigger deal

    They were very good and coordinated together.

    They should have had Ultimate Warrior on their team for some 6 man tag team matches.

    They had great dropkicks.

    Has Ultimate warrior ever done a dropkick? Never seen it I don't think
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    Originally Posted by ragingcrayon View Post
    They were very good and coordinated together.




    Has Ultimate warrior ever done a dropkick? Never seen it I don't think

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    Dont agree with OP. You have to look at the competition they had back in those days. They were lucky to be where they were.

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    I think their inability to rock hurt them. They weren't rockers so much as they were rock fans.

    I think the real reason they never made it to the top was lack of good management. All the top tag teams back then had great managers representing them. Mr. Fuji, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenen, Mrs Elizabeth. A good manager with a valid manager's license could get their teams many opportunities for championship gold. You think Marty Jeanetty could walk into Jack Tunney's office and negotiate a deal for a main event? Tunney would not take him or Michaels seriously.

    Teams like The Demolition, The Powers of Pain, the Brain Busters, The Rougeau Bros all had good management. Even if some of them split from their managers, they built good reputations and learned how to play politics under solid management.

    It's not a coincidence that Shawn Michaels became a top star eventually. He picked up a great manager in Sherri.
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    Originally Posted by SmithMachineGuy View Post
    I think their inability to rock hurt them. They weren't rockers so much as they were rock fans.

    I think the real reason they never made it to the top was lack of good management. All the top tag teams back then had great managers representing them. Mr. Fuji, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenen, Mrs Elizabeth. A good manager with a valid manager's license could get their teams many opportunities for championship gold. You think Marty Jeanetty could walk into Jack Tunney's office and negotiate a deal for a main event? Tunney would not take him or Michaels seriously.

    Teams like The Demolition, The Powers of Pain, the Brain Busters, The Rougeau Bros all had good management. Even if some of them split from their managers, they built good reputations and learned how to play politics under solid management.

    It's not a coincidence that Shawn Michaels became a top star eventually. He picked up a great manager in Sherri.
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    Honestly they were just too small in an era of big men. Road warriors, powers of pain, demolition, barbarian/haku, even hart foundation, they all had size. The WWE just wasn't putting over small guys back then.

    Bret is a pretty huge guy and even he was considered a small fry back then
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    Originally Posted by SmithMachineGuy View Post
    I think their inability to rock hurt them. They weren't rockers so much as they were rock fans.

    I think the real reason they never made it to the top was lack of good management. All the top tag teams back then had great managers representing them. Mr. Fuji, Jimmy Hart, Bobby Heenen, Mrs Elizabeth. A good manager with a valid manager's license could get their teams many opportunities for championship gold. You think Marty Jeanetty could walk into Jack Tunney's office and negotiate a deal for a main event? Tunney would not take him or Michaels seriously.

    Teams like The Demolition, The Powers of Pain, the Brain Busters, The Rougeau Bros all had good management. Even if some of them split from their managers, they built good reputations and learned how to play politics under solid management.

    It's not a coincidence that Shawn Michaels became a top star eventually. He picked up a great manager in Sherri.
    thats where marty went wrong - he went by himself doing the rocking thing alone and shawn found sherri who helped him get to the ic belt. you make a great point, repped
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    Wasn’t a fan. I’d take them getting the titles over LOD though out of all the face teams after the Hart Foundation split
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    They were crazy over with the ladies and could get a good pop. Good in-ring presence, however, they were just too small in comparison with the other teams.
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    It’s like saying a penguin should hunt a lion. Totally illogical.

    The rockers were fun but were tiny in the land of giants.

    Probably should have held the belts (4real) at some point but titles changed hands less regularly
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    Two talented kids, saddled with a rip-off gimmick that never came close to the original. Vince was too fascinated by steroided up monsters to grasp the appeal of quick/agile babyfaces that find a way to win. The RnR Express was allowed to be a top team, the Rockers never would - their size and the fact Vince didn't care about tag teams (even in an era with so many good ones), they were always relegated to the midcard.

    In WWE, too small. In wrestling as a whole, the RnR worked with the Road Warriors, so it's not like it matters outside of the WWF
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    Originally Posted by BigDeeps01 View Post
    Bret is a pretty huge guy and even he was considered a small fry back then
    What? I never considered Bret huge, even in the context of the WWE at that time - though my mental image will almost always be him next to Anvil and of course he is small by comparison so maybe that has something to do with it.

    Just looked it up, Bret was billed at 234lbs (Anvil 281lbs for comparison)

    And I forgot but now I am looking things up and not working, so this is going to get out of control.

    At one point in Oct 1990, The Rockers won the titles from the Hart Foundation (which is underrated in terms of the great tag teams - great combo of power and technical prowess and one of the all time great managers) in a house show. They had a few title defenses (I can't find against whom) and the WWF decided to not go that line, never aired nor acknowledge any of those matches and just gave the belts back to The Hart Foundation (the internet absolutely ruined pro wrestling in so many ways).

    It was a couple months later that Jennety crippled that jobber so I wonder if that killed any plans of ever getting them in title contention
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    What? I never considered Bret huge, even in the context of the WWE at that time - though my mental image will almost always be him next to Anvil and of course he is small by comparison so maybe that has something to do with it.

    Just looked it up, Bret was billed at 234lbs (Anvil 281lbs for comparison)

    And I forgot but now I am looking things up and not working, so this is going to get out of control.

    At one point in Oct 1990, The Rockers won the titles from the Hart Foundation (which is underrated in terms of the great tag teams - great combo of power and technical prowess and one of the all time great managers) in a house show. They had a few title defenses (I can't find against whom) and the WWF decided to not go that line, never aired nor acknowledge any of those matches and just gave the belts back to The Hart Foundation (the internet absolutely ruined pro wrestling in so many ways).

    It was a couple months later that Jennety crippled that jobber so I wonder if that killed any plans of ever getting them in title contention
    The rockers won the title at saturday nights main event but the match never aired as the top rope broke during the match and took awhile to be patched up this ruined the finish of the match as rockers couldnt climb the turnbuckles for their dropkicks

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    Everyone loved Bushwackers and Rockers, but Vince kept pushing boring stupid teams like Demolition, Nasty Boys and others for some stupid reason.
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    Everyone loved Bushwackers and Rockers, but Vince kept pushing boring stupid teams like Demolition, Nasty Boys and others for some stupid reason.
    Demolition was pretty badass, particularly for a knock-off team in their own right. They could actually work and had some great matches
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    They were The Orient Express or Fabulous Rougeau Brothers of the face tag team division.
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    Demolition was pretty badass, particularly for a knock-off team in their own right. They could actually work and had some great matches
    I assume he was being sarcastic with his comment. Demoliton are one of the top 5 GOAT tag teams.
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    I assume he was being sarcastic with his comment. Demoliton are one of the top 5 GOAT tag teams.
    Really? Srs. What’s a good Demolition match? I’ll go watch right now. What I saw as a kid was just clothesline, punch, punch, walk etc. At least Rockers and Bushwackers did something kids could relate to. Bret was pretty badass, but not Anvil who was boring as I remember it as a kid. LOD was #1 fan favorite tho
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    I assume he was being sarcastic with his comment. Demoliton are one of the top 5 GOAT tag teams.
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    Really? Srs. What’s a good Demolition match? I’ll go watch right now. What I saw as a kid was just clothesline, punch, punch, walk etc. At least Rockers and Bushwackers did something kids could relate to. Bret was pretty badass, but not Anvil who was boring as I remember it as a kid. LOD was #1 fan favorite tho
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Really? Srs. What’s a good Demolition match? I’ll go watch right now. What I saw as a kid was just clothesline, punch, punch, walk etc. At least Rockers and Bushwackers did something kids could relate to. Bret was pretty badass, but not Anvil who was boring as I remember it as a kid. LOD was #1 fan favorite tho
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Really? Srs. What’s a good Demolition match? I’ll go watch right now. What I saw as a kid was just clothesline, punch, punch, walk etc. At least Rockers and Bushwackers did something kids could relate to. Bret was pretty badass, but not Anvil who was boring as I remember it as a kid. LOD was #1 fan favorite tho
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