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    Paul starts off by noting that genital mutilation is recognized as a human rights violation, and that many who go through it do so willingly out of fear of social rejection. He then notes that America is 'normalizing the idea that minors can be given hormones to prevent their biological development...":

    "According to the WHO, genital mutilation has been recognized internationally as a violation of human rights. Genital mutilation is considered particularly egregious, because as the WHO knows, it is almost always carried out on minors and is a violation of the rights of children.

    Most genital mutilation is not typically performed by force, but as WHO notes that by social convention, social norm. The social pressure to conform, to do what others do and have been doing as well as the need to be accepted socially and the fear of being rejected by the community. American culture is now normalizing the idea that minors can be given hormones to prevent their biological development of their secondary sexual characteristics.

    "Dr. Levine you have supported both allowing minors to be given hormone blockers to prevent them from going through puberty, as well as surgical destruction of a minor's genitalia. Like surgical mutilation, hormonal interruption of puberty can permanently alter and prevent secondary sexual characteristics. The American College of Pediatricians reports that 80-95% of pre-pubital children with gender dysphoria will experience resolution by late adolescence if not exposed to medical intervention and social affirmation."

    "Dr. Levine, do you believe that minors are capable of making such a life-changing decision as changing one's sex?" Paul asked.

    Levine deflected:

    "Well, Senator, thank you for your interest in this question. Transgender medicine is a very complex and nuanced field, with robust research and standards of care that have been developed. And if I am fortunate enough to be confirmed as the assistant secretary of health, I would look forward to working with you and your office in coming to your office and discussing the particulars of the standards of care for transgender medicine".

    Paul, visibly irritated, shot back:

    "The specific question was about minors. Let's be a little more specific since you evaded the question. Do you support the government intervening to override the parent's consent to give a child puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and/or amputation surgery of breasts and genitalia? You have said that you're willing to accelerate the protocols for street kids. I'm alarmed that poor kids with no parents who are homeless and distraught - you would just go through this and allow that to happen to a minor."

    What I'm alarmed at is that you're not willing to say: 'absolutely, minors should not be making the decision to amputate their breast, or to amputate their genitalia. For most of our history, we have believed that minors don't have full rights and that parents need to be involved, so I'm alarmed that you won't say, with certainty, that minors should not have the ability to make the decision to take hormones that will affect them for the rest of their life.

    "Will you make a more firm decision on whether or not minors should be involved in these decisions?" Paul repeated.

    Levine repeated her last answer almost verbatim: "Senator, transgender medicine is a very complex and nuanced field..."

    To which Paul shot back:

    "For most of the history of medicine, we wouldn't let you have a cut zone up in the ER, but you're willing to let a minor take things that prevent their puberty, and you think they get that back? You give a woman testosterone enough that she grows a beard, you think she's going to go back to looking like a woman when you stop the testosterone? You have permanently changed them. Infertility is another problem. None of these drugs have been approved for this. They're being used off-label.

    I find it ironic that the left that went nuts over hydroxychloroquine being used possibly for covid, are not alarmed that these hormones are being used off-label. There's no long-term studies. We don't know what happens to 'em. We do know that there are dozens and dozens of people who've been through this who regret this happening - a permanent change happened to them.

    And if you've ever been around children, 14-yar-olds can't make this decision. In the gender dysphoria clinic in England, 10% of the kids are between the age of 3 and 10. We should be outraged that someone is talking to a three-year-old about changing their sex."
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    I cant stand a coward, no matter what side, that wont state their opinion and or dodge questions like these.

    If you dont legitimately have an opinion because you haven't done enough research then say so.
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    Absolutely disgusting the direction we're headed.

    Puberty blockers are also a big problem even if you do end up wanting to transition as the pre pubescent penis is inadequate for sex reassignment surgery.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I cant stand a coward, no matter what side, that wont state their opinion.

    If you dont legitimately have an opinion because you haven't done enough research then say so.
    He just isn't stating his opinion because it would be met with resistance. Levine is a transgender health professional how could he not be educated?
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    It just feels like we live in crazy land. I honestly feel like our existence on this earth, at least our existence that doesn’t mesh with the dystopian novels of the last century, is coming to an end. The people our country has elected, as well as their appointed bureaucrats, seem to exist outside of logic and reason.

    We have actual threats in the world, namely Xi and the CCP. They are committing literal genocide, and these presumptive government officials can’t even condemn something as simple as this. The west is doomed.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    He just isn't stating his opinion because it would be met with resistance. Levine is a transgender health professional how could he not be educated?
    I agree 100% - Levine has an opinion but too coward to say it.

    I have zero respect for the type of person that their public opinion is more important to them than their character/beliefs.

    I would disagree wholeheartedly if Levine affirmed the belief in these types of laws but at least I would respect the character.

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    This is disturbing on so many levels
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I agree 100% - Levine has an opinion but too coward to say it.

    I have zero respect for the type of person that their public opinion is more important to them than their character/beliefs.

    I would disagree wholeheartedly if Levine affirmed the belief in these types of laws but at least I would respect the character.

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    It just feels like we live in crazy land. I honestly feel like our existence on this earth, at least our existence that doesn’t mesh with the dystopian novels of the last century, is coming to an end. The people our country has elected, as well as their appointed bureaucrats, seem to exist outside of logic and reason.

    We have actual threats in the world, namely Xi and the CCP. They are committing literal genocide, and these presumptive government officials can’t even condemn something as simple as this. The west is doomed.
    They won't condemn genocide but they demand everyone condemns white supremacy (even though none of them are white supremacists).

    You can tell where their priorities are.
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    The predictable outlets are already saying Dr. Paul did a "transphobic rant." Seems to me he doesn't approve of child abuse and mutilation of still developing bodies. People that push this on kids should not walk the streets safely. Practically the only time I advocate violence is when you mess with kids. That includes the parents that do this to their kids as well.
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    The predictable outlets are already saying Dr. Paul did a "transphobic rant." Seems to me he doesn't approve of child abuse and mutilation of still developing bodies. People that push this on kids should not walk the streets safely. Practically the only time I advocate violence is when you mess with kids. That includes the parents that do this to their kids as well.
    Agreed, it's literally a human and civil rights violation what they're doing to children.
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    They won't condemn genocide but they demand everyone condemns white supremacy (even though none of them are white supremacists).

    You can tell where their priorities are.
    The fact that they even mention white supremacy when literally dozens of POC are killed by other POC daily tells you everything you need to know.
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    Agreed, it's literally a human and civil rights violation what they're doing to children.
    Couldn’t agree more. This is child abuse, plan and simple. Children don’t know what the fuk they want, nor do they remotely understand the concept of human sexuality or gender.

    Parents that advocate for this chit should be locked up for good. If the individual wants to make this choice when they are 18 y/o, then I’d be OK with it. But this is just disgusting.
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    the fact that there is a debate about cutting parents out of the decision-making when it comes to a child, especially when it comes to a decision like puberty blockers and castrating them ....


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    Agreed, it's literally a human and civil rights violation what they're doing to children.
    No one would agree to this mutilation without indoctrination or extreme psychosis.

    So basically liberal voters.

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    I feel like Rand Paul is one of the few politicians who just have some common sense.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Agreed, it's literally a human and civil rights violation what they're doing to children.
    At the very least (which is high on the "fukked up" scale) it's child abuse, and there's a solid argument for human/civil rights violation. Makes me sick.
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    Originally Posted by frankdtank20 View Post
    The predictable outlets are already saying Dr. Paul did a "transphobic rant." Seems to me he doesn't approve of child abuse and mutilation of still developing bodies. People that push this on kids should not walk the streets safely. Practically the only time I advocate violence is when you mess with kids. That includes the parents that do this to their kids as well.

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    Parents and doctors who give such pils or have sex change surgery for their kids are to be put to death with no trial or jury, and I would carry out the death penalty myself, a bullet to the head, I would do it gladly and fully aware of consequences for my life.

    Those who hurt the innocent children are to die. Even in jail they kill inmates who are there for child rape or murder. Even the worst prisoners have such code of conduct. You don’t touch the kids.


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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    I cant stand a coward, no matter what side, that wont state their opinion and or dodge questions like these.

    If you dont legitimately have an opinion because you haven't done enough research then say so.
    Maybe because all the research in the world would tell you that children cutting off their pp, boobs, and taking puberty blockers are not recommended and causes irreparable damage for the rest of their lives.
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