Why do they cling to this notion that Doctors and Scientists are the most morally superior and altruistic figures of society? That they are somehow incorruptable?
Is this an example of the damage that endless MSM/Social Media programming can do to the mentally & emotionally vulnerable? Common sense tells us they are still humans, just like the rest of us, thus bound to the afflictions of the human condition.
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02-24-2021, 06:29 AM #1
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Why does the Left feel Scientists & Doctors can't be Bought & Paid For?
Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
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02-24-2021, 06:31 AM #2
How hard is it to coordinate ALL the leading scientists to make up a conspiracy?
Seriously. Go look at the data. What do you dispute? That covid is real? That climate change is real? It's all easily corroborated yourself.
Just fukkin lol if u think some poor grad student making like $20k a year is in on some huge conspiracy.
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02-24-2021, 06:34 AM #3
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02-24-2021, 06:34 AM #4
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my BIL is a scientist famous in his world - like he has won a major award and the guy presenting it said they believe his work will lead to a cure for some prominent diseases. And he has mentioned it many times - scientists want to do research, that's what they love and if they are researching an area that gets a lot of attention, their work needs to toe the line to get the grants.
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02-24-2021, 06:36 AM #5
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02-24-2021, 06:41 AM #7
It has been remarkable watching politicians, drug companies, the media, and giant tech companies(all of which the left used to be very suspicious of) turn tens of millions of people on the left into reliable foot soldiers. And yes I realize it happens on the right, but not even remotely close to 1.) the volume of people the left has indoctrinated... and 2.) the ever more preposterous things they’ll just blindly accept and support.
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02-24-2021, 06:44 AM #8
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02-24-2021, 06:46 AM #9
How many are speaking out against the gender confusion? How many admit men can't be women and shouldn't compete with them?
How many of them condemned summer protests during a pandemic?
Apparently thousands okay'd it because "racism is a bigger crisis"
Fauci's admitted to bending the truth to his liking.
Yeah we definitely believe that these people can't be used as part of an agenda, the puppet masters know they're "trusted." and exploit that. I mean don't corporations back studies/research that disingenuously glorify their products/demonize their competitors all the time? It's a business.
Also the communists in China have bought a lot of "leaders" in these fields
but yeah it's just a conspiracy
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02-24-2021, 06:47 AM #10
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02-24-2021, 06:50 AM #12
There is some political spin, but when scientists are warning that we need to do something about climate change, they aren't wrong. When they advise people to wear masks, take the virus seriously, and slow the spread, they again aren't wrong. These are very logical recommendations given the circumstances. Whether we reopen schools, who we vaccinate first, etc are more political decisions than scientific ones, and the right answer isn't obviously clear from the scientific data. But the virus IS very real, and if we had done nothing, it would have been quite devastating.
They absolutely can be. Just go look at the ones that push the Great Barrington Declaration or people like Scott Atlas.
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02-24-2021, 06:53 AM #14
Florida also has considerably lower population density in its cities. Think about where California (the cities) might be if they had the same policies as Florida's. Look where they are WITH the restrictions on spreading in place. You need to think about it from an epidemiological perspective and not mindlessly play these games of my team vs your team or overly simplifying chit. You know how viruses spread. Think about it for 5 seconds. It's a bit dishonest to look at it on a state level because most of the rural parts of the states have very few cases.
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02-24-2021, 06:55 AM #15
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You can't stop climate change. The world will eventually descend back into an Ice Age within the next 5000 years, billions will be displaced, and billions will die.
It would be more prudent to start capping human reproduction but the door of endless revolving credit relies on new generations of credit holders to keep it going.
We are doomed.Right wing politics is the new counter-culture.
Wincel: "I'm saying even the govt of China, while brutal at times, is NOT our enemy. Period."
Has Beowulf10 ever experienced true love? Where did he go?
Education is humanity's key to salvation.
The 2nd Cold War has begun.
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02-24-2021, 06:55 AM #16
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02-24-2021, 06:56 AM #18
People were saying that back in April, and then we saw a massive increase in infections and deaths later. That means they were clearly wrong about how widespread it was.
At this point, I think a nontrivial percentage of the population has been exposed to either the virus or the vaccine. It's probably nearly half the population. We should be seeing a good decline in numbers soon for the main covid strains and possibly the B.1.1.7 British variant.
Unfortunately, there is a new strain that the vaccines might not be very helpful against, and we are in the infancy of its spread. The B.1.351 South African strain might cause yet another lockdown 6 months from now.
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02-24-2021, 06:58 AM #20
This would be a compelling topic since money can corrupt anything but I'll guess numerous people who want to bash scientists also believed a politician who said it would magically disappear one day and constantly moved the timeline for when it would pass. Which makes it difficult to take the grievances all that seriously.
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02-24-2021, 06:58 AM #21
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02-24-2021, 07:00 AM #22
no it doesn't the deathrate is heavily weighted by demographic. Old people may die from it, everyone else will not. That was proven over the course of the last year yet here we are, freaking the fuk out about it. If we didn't have vaccines for the flue we'd have similar issues.
no one thinks that srs
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02-24-2021, 07:00 AM #23
No. There were studies done to determine covid hotspots.
Look.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2923-3
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02-24-2021, 07:02 AM #24
What? What does that have to do with what I said? The virus is very dangerous to people over 55, and if no measures were taken, the hospitals would have been overrun and preventable deaths for people under 55 would have occurred (car accidents, trauma victims, drug ODs, etc). The CDC did a cost benefit analysis and came to the same conclusion every other country did.
That's the thing. You guys want this to be some grand conspiracy. Why the fuk would India lockdown? Why would China? Why would almost every country take the same serious measures against this? Are they all colluding? It's always one huge conspiracy with you people.
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02-24-2021, 07:04 AM #25
Look man, all we need to do is find new energy sources and not be as reliant on fossil fuels. That's a huge ask when there's a massive lobby and tons of people employed in those industries, and they've done everything in their power to fight this simple action. It's really sad.
We need to fund fusion energy research more than anything else imo. The crunch is coming. People always mock peak oil, but they seem to think we will keep making insane innovations and keep being able to find more reserves. That simply can't happen, and it gets harder each year. We're on the clock. It's a fairly trivial computation to look at current energy consumption trends and make generous estimates about how many new viable reserves we might find and then to estimate how much time we have left. It's less than 50 years at current rates. That means something has gotta give somewhere here.
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02-24-2021, 07:05 AM #26
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02-24-2021, 07:08 AM #27
India despises China and would have zero reason to follow their recommendations. And so do we. In fact, we originally ignored China's warnings and mostly criticized them for human rights violations when they were dealing with this virus. Nobody else seemed to take it seriously until it was at their doorstep.
The US was also not the first to even implement any of these policies. In fact, we've been behind on covid every step of the way.
And I'll say again, if we don't want China to take over the international organizations, we need to play MORE of a role in them, not less. Withdrawing from the WHO, threatening to dismantle NATO, fuking removing US support for UNESCO lmfao these are all terrible plans. If you want China or Russia to maximize their political influence, this is what you do. If you want the US to continue being a world leader, then we need to participate in international organizations.
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02-24-2021, 07:13 AM #29
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Pretty easy when you tie their federal grants to pushing a narrative.
Leftism is a religion. A leftist scientist is a leftist first, scientist second. Ideology over substance. They will take whatever evidence they can find that fits their narrative, and discard any that doesn't. They will conform the data to their presupposition. They aren't scientists at all, really."That boulder is too large. I could lift a smaller one."
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