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    Post Peyton Manning, not Tom Brady, is actually the GOAT, according to PFR's HoF metrics

    Brady is not the GOAT when it comes to a Pro Football Reference metric. The website created a "Hall of Fame Monitor" in 2019 that was designed to estimate a player's chances at being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Using approximate value, Pro Bowls, All-Pros, championships and other statistical milestones, the site created a point system to determine the pecking order at each position.

    At quarterback, Peyton Manning holds the top spot with 258 points.
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    Pretty much nails it on the head. I’ve been saying this a long time when you add context to Bradys career there are a few factors to consider

    -multiple cheating scandals asterisking at least his 4 Super Bowl titles

    -Mostly ran a turn key operation in Tampa forcing them to blow out the cap to create a mega team to carry him to the superbowl

    -Refs combined with the Falcons gifted a Super Bowl to Brady

    That leaves him with one legitimate run against the Rams, where he had to do absolutely nothing but show up to win with Jared goof on the other team

    His hallmark is 2 losses to mediocre giants team

    The guy really has been the qb born with a horseshoe up his ass to have won more than 2 Super Bowls. The luckiest guy in history. He never had the command and ability to carve up a defense like Manning did, mainly because he lacked the ability to audible effectively at the line and entirely relied on holding the ball or dinking and dunking. Whenever he was slightly rattled in the pocket with some consistency he choked hard.

    I commend PFT for pointing out that Manning is ranked higher than Brady on the merits
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
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    Originally Posted by HandstandPushup View Post
    Seems a bit insecure
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    While Brady has five more rings than Manning, Manning's two titles, five MVP awards (compared to Brady's three) and seven All-Pro selections (compared to three for Brady) gives him a slight edge for the time being.
    LMAO, definitely makes Manning better than Brady. Too bad I can't neg OP.
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    Originally Posted by Tyler2106 View Post
    LMAO, definitely makes Manning better than Brady. Too bad I can't neg OP.
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    Lol not triggered at all. Just think you're an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
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    Lol not triggered at all. Just think you're an idiot.
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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Brady 11-6 h2h against Manning
    The low level qualifier and low info sports fan armchair evaluators opinion is that this stat actually means something. Contrary to popular belief quarterbacks don’t throw balls at each other to decide who wins. There are 52 other players on the roster if you didn’t know. For the same reason Brady’s 7 Super Bowl wins are not all that impressive when given proper context and evaluation.
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    Originally Posted by PITA21 View Post
    The low level qualifier and low info sports fan armchair evaluators opinion is that this stat actually means something. Contrary to popular belief quarterbacks don’t throw balls at each other to decide who wins. There are 52 other players on the roster if you didn’t know. For the same reason Brady’s 7 Super Bowl wins are not all that impressive when given proper context and evaluation.
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    Manning was pretty dam good. A coach on the field and a dam surgeon finding holes in defences. But those 7 damn rings can't be trumped.
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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    Manning was pretty dam good. A coach on the field and a dam surgeon finding holes in defences. But those 7 damn rings can't be trumped.
    Is bill Russell the goat? How bout yogi Berra?

    Using a team metric to determine who the best individual is is absolutely retarded. Especially in football, the ultimate team sport. As great as anyone quarterback is they’re only on the field half the game.
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    Being a bargain bin QB means you get to play with elite talent. NFL teams only get so much cap space every year so if they wanna splurge on the 400 dollar wagyu beef, they gotta skimp on the wine.

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    Originally Posted by ohiostate124 View Post
    Brady 11-6 h2h against Manning
    what's his h2h playoff record vs manning?
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    No one cares about regular season stats. What's NFL MVP awards done for Rodgers and Manning? Why do you think players are resting during regular season nowadays? All that matters is postseason glory and Brady has it in abundance cause he's clutch.
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    If you ask brady if he'd trade the championships for better stats he'd turn it down.

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    Is bill Russell the goat?
    There were 10 teams in the league when Bill Russell won 11 NBA championships.
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    what's his h2h playoff record vs manning?
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    Facts don’t care about red trolls feelings

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    Once again, in plain sight you have absolutely no basis for an argument, supporting evidence or rebuttal to my points

    just a sad ohiostate fan that knows nothing about football and loser voter (for trump)

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