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    Deloading, 1 hard set

    Only one hard set of each exercise, same intensity and rep count. Anyone have any experience deloading like this? Thoughts, worth trying?
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Only one hard set of each exercise, same intensity and rep count. Anyone have any experience deloading like this? Thoughts, worth trying?
    That is how I train, I do 1 working set to positive failure. I never deload however.
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    Interesting, I do prefer working with 3-4 sets to an RPE of 8-9 but I’m still on the hunt for the most efficient way (for me personally) to reduce training stimulus occasionally. When the insomnia and “ugh, this is going to be a ****ty sleepless workout” kick in I know I need to take a step back. But the emptiness of the ease of simply reducing reps and/or intensity also feels like crap.
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Interesting, I do prefer working with 3-4 sets to an RPE of 8-9 but I’m still on the hunt for the most efficient way (for me personally) to reduce training stimulus occasionally. When the insomnia and “ugh, this is going to be a ****ty sleepless workout” kick in I know I need to take a step back.
    Ah gotcha. Yeah there are days where I don’t even feel like going to the gym and my workout isn’t as good as I want it to be.

    If you’re used to doing 3-4 work sets, try reducing it to 1-2 work sets.
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    Each to the usual proximity to failure, would you say?
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Each to the usual proximity to failure, would you say?
    I would, but given how I felt that day, it may take less reps to get there. Example, I was doing hack squats with 3 plates one day, after a long day at work and 6 hours sleep the night before, so it felt like 4 and I could only get 8 reps, the last 2 being all out grinders.
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    That sounds reasonable. Rep-PRs wouldn’t be part of the plan anyway, just overall fatigue reduction while still having somewhat of a sense of “pushing” myself. One benefit of, say, performing a few sets of triples has been that I’m able to hone in on perfecting my form without worrying about going all out or doing more, but this way I could apply the same focus to every rep of what would be considered a normal set. Without inadvertently cutting corners under the pressure of having to perform three more hard sets, which can happen when I’ve been feeling off.
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    I would take 3 or 4 sets @6 personally.
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    I would take 3 or 4 sets @6 personally.
    Reps or RPE?

    Then again I probably wouldn’t be able to accurately pinpoint a 6 RPE.
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Reps or RPE?

    Then again I probably wouldn’t be able to accurately pinpoint a 6 RPE.
    RPE, you don't need to worry about accuracy really. It's unlikely you'd be far enough off to change the training effect.
    I'd you perform every rep with full effort and speed on the concentric you'll still get a decent training effect, but the fatigue will be very low.
    ^^ that's something most people who train could stand to do a lot more often too, not just on deloads.
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Interesting, I do prefer working with 3-4 sets to an RPE of 8-9 but I’m still on the hunt for the most efficient way (for me personally) to reduce training stimulus occasionally. When the insomnia and “ugh, this is going to be a ****ty sleepless workout” kick in I know I need to take a step back. But the emptiness of the ease of simply reducing reps and/or intensity also feels like crap.
    If you do 4 sets @8-9
    Deload with 1 set@8. Aka just work up to what would be your first set normally. That's essentially still quite a hard set but **** all stress. And that's what you want to decay fatigue..

    ...

    Or you can do something more fun.
    Pivot.
    Switch all your lifts up for variations and use different rep ranges and keep 2/3 of your workload.

    Deadlift 5s > sldl 12s
    Bench 4s > cg incline 8s
    Lowbar 8s > tempo hibar 5s ect

    Stuff that your not adapted to, mechanically self linited lifs, will need less weight be potentially longer roms.. Overal you get stimulus to help nurture adaptation with way less stress & mechanical loading.
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    If you do 4 sets @8-9
    Deload with 1 set@8. Aka just work up to what would be your first set normally. That's essentially still quite a hard set but **** all stress. And that's what you want to decay fatigue..

    ...

    Or you can do something more fun.
    Pivot.
    Switch all your lifts up for variations and use different rep ranges and keep 2/3 of your workload.

    Deadlift 5s > sldl 12s
    Bench 4s > cg incline 8s
    Lowbar 8s > tempo hibar 5s ect

    Stuff that your not adapted to, mechanically self linited lifs, will need less weight be potentially longer roms.. Overal you get stimulus to help nurture adaptation with way less stress & mechanical loading.
    Man I would love a belt squat for a pivot...
    And a trap bar lol.
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    My usual training is 2 hard sets on most exercises. 8-12 total working sets in a PPL type workout

    Deload is a full body push / off / full body pull / off. 1 exercise and 1 working set per bodypart in the 6-10 range with nothing taken to failure, no grinders etc

    Imo helps to reduce accumlated fatigue with minimal to no decreases in strength.
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    Man I would love a belt squat for a pivot...
    And a trap bar lol.
    £30 landmine attachment & Dip belt.
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    Trap bar...never found one with enough collar space 😂 so I can't say if I like them
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    https://www.titan.fitness/strength/b...v2/430077.html

    If you guys on the other side of the pond can find a trap bar that is rackable, that usually means it has longer sleeves than a regular trap bar.
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    https://www.titan.fitness/strength/b...v2/430077.html

    If you guys on the other side of the pond can find a trap bar that is rackable, that usually means it has longer sleeves than a regular trap bar.
    https://www.ironking.uk.com/shop/iro...ional-hex-bar/

    we have some decent options, but if you have bumpers for deads they take up a lot of space on the sleeve
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    https://www.ironking.uk.com/shop/iro...ional-hex-bar/

    we have some decent options, but if you have bumpers for deads they take up a lot of space on the sleeve
    Oooh that looks nice. I like that it’s open on one side.
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    Oooh that looks nice. I like that it’s open on one side.
    Yeah elieko released this
    https://shop.eleiko.com/en-gb/equipm...hoClCYQAvD_BwE

    And a year later there's suddenly a lot of open trap bars about xD
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    I like to buy or do lifts/bars/machines than I have to under load not supra load..
    I want that mechanical disadvantage for my supp work, so less weight means joint stress, easier recovery ect

    My main work covers the heavy aspects

    Eg Hate leg press... Love belt squat
    One needs minimum 20 plates for vol work, vs one I can use 80kg for a disgusting workout

    Trap seems to fall into the supra load category. Even with low handles.. I can pull 40kg more and about 90kg more high.
    Just doesn't make financial sense for me to buy one. To use 4x a year.

    Ill use one in the gym if it's left out and loaded.. but im not buying one then buying even more reds to fill a bar at home.

    My football bar on the other hand is <3 and next year a ghr.. That **** is value

    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    Yeah elieko released this
    https://shop.eleiko.com/en-gb/equipm...hoClCYQAvD_BwE

    And a year later there's suddenly a lot of open trap bars about xD
    Wasnt Duffins/kabuki out before that?
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    I like to buy or do lifts/bars/machines than I have to under load not supra load..

    Eg Hate leg press... Love belt squat
    One needs minimum 20 plates for vol work, vs one I can use 80kg for a disgusting workout

    Trap seems to fall into the supra load category. Even with low handles.. I can pull 40kg more and it doesn't make financial sense for me to buy one. To use 4x a year.

    Ill use one in the gym if it's left out and loaded.. but im not buying one then buying even more reds to fill a bar at home.



    Wasnt Duffins/kabuki out before that?
    Probably, but it hink Eleiko's version kicked of it getting popularised
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    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    If you do 4 sets @8-9
    Deload with 1 set@8. Aka just work up to what would be your first set normally. That's essentially still quite a hard set but **** all stress. And that's what you want to decay fatigue..

    ...

    Or you can do something more fun.
    Pivot.
    Switch all your lifts up for variations and use different rep ranges and keep 2/3 of your workload.

    Deadlift 5s > sldl 12s
    Bench 4s > cg incline 8s
    Lowbar 8s > tempo hibar 5s ect

    Stuff that your not adapted to, mechanically self linited lifs, will need less weight be potentially longer roms.. Overal you get stimulus to help nurture adaptation with way less stress & mechanical loading.
    This sounds cool. I don’t have access to any machines for the U/P/P days of my ULPPL since I’m still training from home on those days, so my alternative options are limited (I have adjustable DBs up to 74 lbs each and a barbell-like setup without enough stability to safely perform bench press or OHP, but adequate for rows). Could something like... hm... a wide grip barbell row instead of a standard grip provide enough variation, or Pendley or Yates rows perhaps? Narrower of wider push-ups? Maybe incorporate holds with lighter eights across the board?

    I’m also thinking of abandoning strict structure altogether, given that I feel as though different lifts need different methods of attention in stress reduction for different reason. I m an incredibly strict and structured person in the first place, so going in with as loose a plan of possible could benefit me mentally, I think.

    For example, now that I think about it, I’ve been enjoying standard barbell rows and slowly but surely consistently overloading, adjusting to the heaviness of moving a heavy barbell attempting to pull me down through the proper range of motion while keeping myself as stationary as possible I think that keeping the intensity here the same and eliminating volume could be more conducive to strength and motor efficiency retention without feeling stagnant.

    Pull ups, on the other hand, have been giving me a lot of trouble and I think it’d be fun to **** with chin ups for a week. I’ve been stalling on single-arm supported DB rows and would rather try something different, so maybe I can sub in a different type of barbell row at a significantly lighter weight than my standard BB rows.
    Last edited by Xpiro; 11-24-2020 at 08:53 PM.
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