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    Trumps Healthcare plan?

    what is it? Srs.
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    Hopefully repeal obamacare, medicaid and medicare since the federal government should not be involved in ANYONE's healthcare.

    Oh, that would also get rid of our deficit problem, so win win...
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    Idk but the Supreme Court might be striking down ACA pretty soon.
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    Ill be honest, I have no clue what his health plan is. I have great healthcare coverage, so this isnt an issue Im personally worried about. However, Obamacare isnt a winner...and bidencare doesnt sound like a winner...more like it doubles down on the failed principals of obamacare.

    Also, Im not sure that we should have the federal government messing with the healthcare system in this country, based on how poorly the federal government tends to manage things in our country.
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    If democrats are so worried about "pre-existing conditions", why aren't they introducing a bill that would specifically prohibit health insurance companies from denying coverage due to pre-existing conditions??
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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    what is it? Srs.
    shut the **** up

    you nasty bitch

    tell us, what's YOUR healthcare plan?
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    Lower drug prices I'm guessing which would be a huge win


    I have insurance through my business so I have no problem with the current setup. Could be cheaper but I'm not complaining
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Hopefully repeal obamacare, medicaid and medicare since the federal government should not be involved in ANYONE's healthcare.

    Oh, that would also get rid of our deficit problem, so win win...

    Why does your response start with "hopefully. "


    He's been president for 4 years, election is in a week. Why tf hasn't he released his plan like he has promised?
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    Trump's a con man. He has no healthcare plan, just like his coronavirus plan.
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    Originally Posted by HayZues Christi View Post
    Why does your response start with "hopefully. "


    He's been president for 4 years, election is in a week. Why tf hasn't he released his plan like he has promised?
    They have to pass it before they can tell us what's in it...
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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    Ill be honest, I have no clue what his health plan is. I have great healthcare coverage, so this isnt an issue Im personally worried about. However, Obamacare isnt a winner...and bidencare doesnt sound like a winner...more like it doubles down on the failed principals of obamacare.

    Also, Im not sure that we should have the federal government messing with the healthcare system in this country, based on how poorly the federal government tends to manage things in our country.


    My health care is solid right now, but I see it as an important issue for the country as a whole.

    Agreed that the government hasnt proved to be very efficient in managing much of anything. I am also very much pro capitalism, but do believe some things should be socialized. We socialize roads/police/water/sewers etc.

    I believe socializing medicine actually helps capitalism. Since capitalism is powered by exceptionalism, not having to worry about Healthcare would allow more people to be exceptional.


    I have a longer argument to explain better, but typing on a phone makes it tough.
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    i dont know why trump just admits that he's not going to come up with a plan. at this point we all in know it's true. might as well be straight up so then he can try to justify why he doesnt plan to come up with one
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    shut the **** up

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    tell us, what's YOUR healthcare plan?
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    If democrats are so worried about "pre-existing conditions", why aren't they introducing a bill that would specifically prohibit health insurance companies from denying coverage due to pre-existing conditions??
    That's what the ACA is...
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    That's what the ACA is...
    No, it's not. That was the health insurance industry putting the liability on the taxpayer and away from themselves...
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    No, it's not. That was the health insurance industry putting the liability on the taxpayer and away from themselves...
    The liability is supposed to be balanced by increased roll numbers, but now that the tax is zeroed out...the SC may dismember the whole thing as it passes an undue burden to businesses.

    If they tried to pass it as a stand alone law, I would think it would get axed in court for the same reason.

    Edit: I think the SC is reviewing a case about ACA this month (Actually: November), and it make get canned. So, no matter who wins next year could be everyone running around trying to come up with something new (unsuccessfully).

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    Most of the comments here prove one very important point, which is, Trump supporters are simple-minded followers and merely repeat Fox News talking points. Nobody is talking about the government getting involved in healthcare. What is being proposed, and is supported by the majority of Americans, is a national health insurance. The actual delivery of services is by independent providers and healthcare systems. Same as it has always been.
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    [youtube]9uC4bXmcUvw[outube]



    Yes I'm sure that 5 second clip isn't missing any context..


    Even still, did you support passing ACA without the public having any view of it? Or you being partisan and inconsistent right now?
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    Originally Posted by massivetestes View Post
    Most of the comments here prove one very important point, which is, Trump supporters are simple-minded followers and merely repeat Fox News talking points. Nobody is talking about the government getting involved in healthcare. What is being proposed, and is supported by the majority of Americans, is a national health insurance. The actual delivery of services is by independent providers and healthcare systems. Same as it has always been.

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    Originally Posted by Jrd86 View Post
    Ill be honest, I have no clue what his health plan is. I have great healthcare coverage, so this isnt an issue Im personally worried about. However, Obamacare isnt a winner...and bidencare doesnt sound like a winner...more like it doubles down on the failed principals of obamacare.

    Also, Im not sure that we should have the federal government messing with the healthcare system in this country, based on how poorly the federal government tends to manage things in our country.
    This, since I have a good job I have great healthcare

    Keeping medicare for the disabled and seniors that provides good quality care is great, but fukk off giving 'free' to parastites who can't even hold down a job as a fry cook
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    Trump doesn't have one because the GOP can't decide if they want to fix or repeal Obamacare and the Dems hate anything Trump is involved in.

    He tried desperately to fix it the first 2 years of his presidency, but couldn't get it done.

    The basic issue is Obamacare can't just be turned off without destroying the system and many in the GOP realize it. Others realize it was a load of chit and don't want to have their name attached to the steamy pile that is Obamacare.

    End result is nothing can get done.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Hopefully...
    Yeah, after 4 years, all you still have is hope, lmao.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    Trump doesn't have one because the GOP can't decide if they want to fix or repeal Obamacare and the Dems hate anything Trump is involved in.

    He tried desperately to fix it the first 2 years of his presidency, but couldn't get it done.

    The basic issue is Obamacare can't just be turned off without destroying the system and many in the GOP realize it. Others realize it was a load of chit and don't want to have their name attached to the steamy pile that is Obamacare.

    End result is nothing can get done.
    What happened to being the dealmaker? He can't even negotiate with his own party, lmao.
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    Obama royally fuked up my insurance situation (private, costs doubled) and Trump/republicans have done nothing about it and rates continue to go up. I assume he'll do like every other politician before him and either do absolutely nothing or make it even worse than it was before.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Idk but the Supreme Court might be striking down ACA pretty soon.

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    Originally Posted by Vexidi View Post
    Obama royally fuked up my insurance situation (private, costs doubled) and Trump/republicans have done nothing about it and rates continue to go up. I assume he'll do like every other politician before him and either do absolutely nothing or make it even worse than it was before.
    Ugh. If you want better insurance just go get a job with one of the miscers above you ITT with good insurance, or go work for Amazon, or take some personal responsibility and healthy yourself up. Or maybe you should have thought twice before not becoming a corporate attorney or some other high paying occupation with better benefits. Why don't you just sack up, go back to school, sell your house, and relocate somewhere your new career will afford you the opportunity to have better insurance that won't cost you as high a percentage of your income?

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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    Ugh. If you want better insurance just go get a job with one of the miscers above you ITT with good insurance, or go work for Amazon, or take some personal responsibility and healthy yourself up. Or maybe you should have thought twice before not becoming a corporate attorney or some other high paying occupation with better benefits. Why don't you just sack up, go back to school, sell your house, and relocate somewhere your new career will afford you the opportunity to have better insurance that won't cost you as high a percentage of your income?

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    Hopefully Trump won't do anything except eliminate restrictions on private health insurance, the Obamacare will go away, and people can get whatever healthcare they want and pay for it themselves.
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    Originally Posted by ChunkerFish View Post
    This, since I have a good job I have great healthcare

    Keeping medicare for the disabled and seniors that provides good quality care is great, but fukk off giving 'free' to parastites who can't even hold down a job as a fry cook
    dont worry, you'll end up paying for them one way or the other.
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