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    What is your bench (1RM) to weight ratio?

    For example mine is: 1.333...

    My bench/my weight = 220lbs/165lbs => 1.333

    Please drop yours. I wanna know because a lot of people can bench 275, but you find out that they weigh 250. So I want to know where I actually stand.
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    unless you compete in a bench only weight ratio comp, if they move more weight, they are stronger.
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    My bench is poverty at the moment buttttt

    91.7kg 1RM (using a max calculator)
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    unless you compete in a bench only weight ratio comp, if they move more weight, they are stronger.
    Hey, looks like I'm finally wholeheartedly agreeing with Wolf this time!

    IMO, max strength as a function of bodyweight is an important factor and should supply the context for a maximum lift, but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth.

    Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve on bodyweight vs. weight on the bar gets steeper. I.e., a 180 pound lifter putting up 275 is pressing over 1.5 x their weight, but that same ratio gets more challenging and impressive to achieve at heavier weight overall. Hence, to my mind a 200 pound lifter with a 315 bench is more impressive (as well as bigger and stronger) even though the ratio is approximately the same.

    If someone is obese and yet still able to press 405 naturally, they're still incredibly strong and deserve credit for that much even if they're not at all athletic.

    EDIT: My max bench is 315 and I weigh 250 right now. I'm down 10 pounds from when I attempted this max so it wouldn't be completely fair to claim the ratio until I attempt it again after this cut and I'm not consistently eating at a deficit, but assuming I can it would be a ratio of 1.26.

    Also, 6'2" and I do have long arms. Bench has always been a challenge so I've focused on it a lot in recent years.
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    This measure favours short guys with short arms who are not fat and don't train their lower body

    120/85 = 1.4
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    At best about 1.9, currently poverty but I don't bench, so...
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Hey, looks like I'm finally wholeheartedly agreeing with Wolf this time!

    IMO, max strength as a function of bodyweight is an important factor and should supply the context for a maximum lift, but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth.

    Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve on bodyweight vs. weight on the bar gets steeper. I.e., a 180 pound lifter putting up 275 is pressing over 1.5 x their weight, but that same ratio gets more challenging and impressive to achieve at heavier weight overall. Hence, to my mind a 200 pound lifter with a 315 bench is more impressive (as well as bigger and stronger) even though the ratio is approximately the same.

    If someone is obese and yet still able to press 405 naturally, they're still incredibly strong and deserve credit for that much even if they're not at all athletic.

    EDIT: My max bench is 315 and I weigh 250 right now. I'm down 10 pounds from when I attempted this max so it wouldn't be completely fair to claim the ratio until I attempt it again after this cut and I'm not consistently eating at a deficit, but assuming I can it would be a ratio of 1.26.
    And this is the bs ^^ mine is 1.33 recently repped single. 1.4 if I allow for rpe and erm.

    You are obviously a stronger bencher.. But the ratio wouldn't suggest that.
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    Made it over 1:1 in 2019. About 240 to a 225 weight. Then fukked my shoulder up. Had surgery, long recovery, now stalled out. I can only do about 150ish for a few reps before pain sets in then I stop.

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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    And this is the bs ^^ mine is 1.33 recently repped single. 1.4 if I allow for rpe and erm.

    You are obviously a stronger bencher.. But the ratio wouldn't suggest that.
    Thanks for the kind word, BUT I am also still somewhat fat, and that's still what it is even if that doesn't disqualify the bench number itself.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Thanks for the kind word, BUT I am also still somewhat fat, and that's still what it is even if that doesn't disqualify the bench number itself.
    Sure, but you are fat with a strong bench.
    I'm probably less fat, with a weaker bench lol.

    Hopefully I'll be the same or less fat again when I finally hit 140, but we shall see
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    Some of us are both weak and relatively weak lol
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    120/85 = 1.4
    ^^^^

    This near enough depending on my bulk or cut cycle.
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    I topped out at about a 1.45 ratio but then I started squatting and gaining lower body weight and farked it all up.
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    Maybe 1.57
    135/86

    Allometric scaling scores strength based on bodyweight. It's more precise than weight classes.

    https://www.ipfpointscalculator.com/

    I come in at 66.59 GL points for bench alone.
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    just recently started focusing more on strength.

    Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

    I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...
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    Originally Posted by TrainLegsBrahs View Post
    just recently started focusing more on strength.

    Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

    I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...
    Benching 400lbs at 200bw is far easier(still difficult obviously) than benching 600lbs at 300bw. Both have the same ratio.

    Currently I'm around 1.5, haven't maxed since gyms reopened but I think I could hit 300 at 200lbs. Previous best was 365 at 220 but that was last year.
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    (Using calculator) At my best: 120/90 = 1.333

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    Originally Posted by TrainLegsBrahs View Post
    just recently started focusing more on strength.

    Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

    I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...
    weight ratio's with no mathematical adjustments automatically favour lighter people heavily...

    It's pretty plainly obvious lol...
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    Originally Posted by Ghawk21 View Post
    Benching 400lbs at 200bw is far easier(still difficult obviously) than benching 600lbs at 300bw...
    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    ..but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth

    Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve...



    Let's make things interesting and rank you kunts;



    Welterweight:

    1- SnipeItLikePro (1.333)


    Middleweight:

    1- TrainLegsBrahs (1.361)
    3- AlexSays (1.186)


    Light Heavyweight:

    1- ECGordyn (1.57)
    2- SuffolkPunch (1.411)
    3- WolfRose7 (1.33)
    4- kenjoshx (1.036)


    Heavyweight:

    1- EliKoehn (1.212)
    2- bigcat3655 (0.667)
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post


    Let's make things interesting and rank you kunts;



    Welterweight:

    1- SnipeItLikePro (1.333)


    Middleweight:

    1- ECGordyn (1.57)
    2- TrainLegsBrahs (1.361)
    3- AlexSays (1.186)


    Light Heavyweight:

    1- SuffolkPunch (1.411)
    2- kenjoshx (1.036)


    Heavyweight:

    1- EliKoehn (1.212)
    2- bigcat3655 (0.667)
    SP is in a a heavier weight class then EC even though EC is the same weight/slightly heavier? lol
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    In my early '20s 225/150 = 1.50
    In my early '30s 295/200 = 1.48
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    SP is in a a heavier weight class then EC even though EC is the same weight/slightly heavier? lol
    than. u mad?



    j/k repped n fixed. You should've mentioned your weight
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
    than. u mad?



    j/k repped n fixed. You should've mentioned your weight
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    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
    than. u mad?



    j/k repped n fixed. You should've mentioned your weight
    Uh, why isn't Ghawk in the lead with the 365 max? Lol
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    Stronger or not, a 200lb guy benching 350 is far more impressive than a 400lb guy benching 500
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    Meaningless. Strength does not scale with size. BW ratio is a small guys game. Mine is over 2 but that means absolutely nothing.

    Nature has many examples of this...like an ant is "stronger" than an elephant. That is the whole purpose of wilks scale.
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    You should post this in the powerlifting section.
    They use wilkes formula for body weight/lift comparisons.
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    This thread makes me remember why I hate BW ratios.

    Seriously, I hate when seeing “@ x amount of
    BW” like that is supposed to validate the lift or something.

    Unless you’re competitive in powerlifting, or in something that is determined by a Wilkes
    score, the person who lifts the most is the strongest (at that particular lift)

    Originally Posted by smokinal View Post
    Stronger or not, a 200lb guy benching 350 is far more impressive than a 400lb guy benching 500
    Depends on if the guy benching 350 is for reps or in sets of 3/2/1.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    Uh, why isn't Ghawk in the lead with the 365 max? Lol
    Same reason I took your actual lift, champ. One count is him speculating, and the other is over 8 months ago; I'll gladly take his last actual 2020 rep.


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    Originally Posted by induced_drag View Post
    Meaningless. Strength does not scale with size. BW ratio is a small guys game. Mine is over 2 but that means absolutely nothing.

    Nature has many examples of this...like an ant is "stronger" than an elephant. That is the whole purpose of wilks scale.

    I would say bench comp is on ken, but we have an actual proper bench with comp vid n all ^^
    But I'll keep chasing the 140kg, gotta keep EC and SP working hard too

    Originally Posted by kenjoshx View Post
    Same reason I took your actual lift, champ. One count is him speculating, and the other is over 8 months ago; he goes and does the lift, and I'll take his word for it.


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