Thread: What is your bench (1RM) to weight ratio?

unless you compete in a bench only weight ratio comp, if they move more weight, they are stronger.

Originally Posted by WolfRose7

unless you compete in a bench only weight ratio comp, if they move more weight, they are stronger.

Hey, looks like I'm finally wholeheartedly agreeing with Wolf this time!

IMO, max strength as a function of bodyweight is an important factor and should supply the context for a maximum lift, but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth.

Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve on bodyweight vs. weight on the bar gets steeper. I.e., a 180 pound lifter putting up 275 is pressing over 1.5 x their weight, but that same ratio gets more challenging and impressive to achieve at heavier weight overall. Hence, to my mind a 200 pound lifter with a 315 bench is more impressive (as well as bigger and stronger) even though the ratio is approximately the same.

If someone is obese and yet still able to press 405 naturally, they're still incredibly strong and deserve credit for that much even if they're not at all athletic.

EDIT: My max bench is 315 and I weigh 250 right now. I'm down 10 pounds from when I attempted this max so it wouldn't be completely fair to claim the ratio until I attempt it again after this cut and I'm not consistently eating at a deficit, but assuming I can it would be a ratio of 1.26.

Also, 6'2" and I do have long arms. Bench has always been a challenge so I've focused on it a lot in recent years.

Originally Posted by EliKoehn

Hey, looks like I'm finally wholeheartedly agreeing with Wolf this time!

IMO, max strength as a function of bodyweight is an important factor and should supply the context for a maximum lift, but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth.

Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve on bodyweight vs. weight on the bar gets steeper. I.e., a 180 pound lifter putting up 275 is pressing over 1.5 x their weight, but that same ratio gets more challenging and impressive to achieve at heavier weight overall. Hence, to my mind a 200 pound lifter with a 315 bench is more impressive (as well as bigger and stronger) even though the ratio is approximately the same.

If someone is obese and yet still able to press 405 naturally, they're still incredibly strong and deserve credit for that much even if they're not at all athletic.

EDIT: My max bench is 315 and I weigh 250 right now. I'm down 10 pounds from when I attempted this max so it wouldn't be completely fair to claim the ratio until I attempt it again after this cut and I'm not consistently eating at a deficit, but assuming I can it would be a ratio of 1.26.

And this is the bs ^^ mine is 1.33 recently repped single. 1.4 if I allow for rpe and erm.

You are obviously a stronger bencher.. But the ratio wouldn't suggest that.

Originally Posted by WolfRose7

And this is the bs ^^ mine is 1.33 recently repped single. 1.4 if I allow for rpe and erm.

You are obviously a stronger bencher.. But the ratio wouldn't suggest that.

Thanks for the kind word, BUT I am also still somewhat fat, and that's still what it is even if that doesn't disqualify the bench number itself.

Originally Posted by EliKoehn

Thanks for the kind word, BUT I am also still somewhat fat, and that's still what it is even if that doesn't disqualify the bench number itself.

Sure, but you are fat with a strong bench.
I'm probably less fat, with a weaker bench lol.

Hopefully I'll be the same or less fat again when I finally hit 140, but we shall see

I topped out at about a 1.45 ratio but then I started squatting and gaining lower body weight and farked it all up.

Maybe 1.57
135/86

Allometric scaling scores strength based on bodyweight. It's more precise than weight classes.

https://www.ipfpointscalculator.com/

I come in at 66.59 GL points for bench alone.

just recently started focusing more on strength.

Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...

Originally Posted by TrainLegsBrahs

just recently started focusing more on strength.

Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...

Benching 400lbs at 200bw is far easier(still difficult obviously) than benching 600lbs at 300bw. Both have the same ratio.

Currently I'm around 1.5, haven't maxed since gyms reopened but I think I could hit 300 at 200lbs. Previous best was 365 at 220 but that was last year.

Originally Posted by TrainLegsBrahs

just recently started focusing more on strength.

Hit 245 Monday, currently weigh 180. 1.36 <3.

I don't understand what any of you mean saying it's more difficult to achieve a good ratio the heavier you are...

weight ratio's with no mathematical adjustments automatically favour lighter people heavily...

It's pretty plainly obvious lol...

Originally Posted by Ghawk21

Benching 400lbs at 200bw is far easier(still difficult obviously) than benching 600lbs at 300bw...

Originally Posted by EliKoehn

..but raw strength is still raw strength regardless and ought to be taken for its own worth

Also, as the total weight goes up, the difficulty curve...

Let's make things interesting and rank you kunts;



Welterweight:

1- SnipeItLikePro (1.333)


Middleweight:

1- TrainLegsBrahs (1.361)
3- AlexSays (1.186)


Light Heavyweight:

1- ECGordyn (1.57)
2- SuffolkPunch (1.411)
3- WolfRose7 (1.33)
4- kenjoshx (1.036)


Heavyweight:

1- EliKoehn (1.212)
2- bigcat3655 (0.667)

Originally Posted by kenjoshx

Let's make things interesting and rank you kunts;



Welterweight:

1- SnipeItLikePro (1.333)


Middleweight:

1- ECGordyn (1.57)
2- TrainLegsBrahs (1.361)
3- AlexSays (1.186)


Light Heavyweight:

1- SuffolkPunch (1.411)
2- kenjoshx (1.036)


Heavyweight:

1- EliKoehn (1.212)
2- bigcat3655 (0.667)

SP is in a a heavier weight class then EC even though EC is the same weight/slightly heavier? lol

Originally Posted by kenjoshx

than. u mad?



j/k repped n fixed. You should've mentioned your weight

86 in with those lads, except weaker

Originally Posted by kenjoshx

than. u mad?



j/k repped n fixed. You should've mentioned your weight

Uh, why isn't Ghawk in the lead with the 365 max? Lol

Stronger or not, a 200lb guy benching 350 is far more impressive than a 400lb guy benching 500

Meaningless. Strength does not scale with size. BW ratio is a small guys game. Mine is over 2 but that means absolutely nothing.

Nature has many examples of this...like an ant is "stronger" than an elephant. That is the whole purpose of wilks scale.

Originally Posted by EliKoehn

Uh, why isn't Ghawk in the lead with the 365 max? Lol

Same reason I took your actual lift, champ. One count is him speculating, and the other is over 8 months ago; I'll gladly take his last actual 2020 rep.


@WolfRose7: Keep pushing hard, bud. You got about 3 months until I reach your current lifts -provided I don't lose my job or have to move-; GL

Originally Posted by induced_drag

Meaningless. Strength does not scale with size. BW ratio is a small guys game. Mine is over 2 but that means absolutely nothing.

Nature has many examples of this...like an ant is "stronger" than an elephant. That is the whole purpose of wilks scale.

I would say bench comp is on ken, but we have an actual proper bench with comp vid n all ^^
But I'll keep chasing the 140kg, gotta keep EC and SP working hard too

Originally Posted by kenjoshx

Same reason I took your actual lift, champ. One count is him speculating, and the other is over 8 months ago; he goes and does the lift, and I'll take his word for it.


@WolfRose7: Keep pushing hard, bud. You got about 3 months until I reach your current lifts -provided I don't lose my job or have to move-; GL