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    Introduction to Cryptocurrency

    Bitcoin - Bitcoin Summary

    Ethereum -
    Ethereum for Everyone
    Beginner's Guide to ETH


    Where do I go if I want to get in on this???

    The only ways to buy bitcoin/ethereum with your dollars are through these things called exchanges.

    Examples of exchanges:

    (Dollars -> BTC/ETH)

    Coinbase - most newb friendly/high fees. You can buy Bitcoins and Ethereum here with your dollars.

    ~~~RECOMMENDED EXCHANGES (for US brahs)~~~

    GDAX - owned by Coinbase. Lower fees. Cons - requires a SSN which not everyone is comfortable with

    Gemini - low fees, nice interface. Cons - Takes time to get verified so you can make deposits

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    Canadian brahs use
    QuadrigaCX

    from these above exchanges, you can take your dollars and convert them to Ethereum or Bitcoins. Now..you could just hold these coins and be happy, or you could explore into the world of alt coins.

    Australian brahs use these to put FIAT into crypto
    www.coinspot.com.au (you pay a premium but you also sell at a premium on this exchange so it’s ok)

    www.btcmarkets.net

    Binance

    KuCoin

    Bittrex


    Common Terminology Used

    Glossary of terms

    Useful links

    Coin Market Cap - Basically an index of all coins with how much volume is being traded, price, %change, market cap, and also has a tab where you can see exactly which exchanges any particular coin is being traded on. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

    Bitcointalk - large gathering of coin talk

    CryptoWatch - Price tracker for coins

    Ethtrader subreddit - Home of all the ETH bag holders. Good discussions there

    /r/CryptoCurrency - Random discussions about random cryptos here

    http://www.coindesk.com - Overview of what's going on in the crypto world

    http://cryptopanic.com - An aggregator of various crypto sites and news, filterable. I use the pro version to customize the feeds but the free version is good enough for most.

    http://cryptomaps.org - Visualization of price across different segments, primarily hashing functions and ICO release dates

    http://onchainfx.com - A better version of coin market cap, has all sort of columns and you can add flags. Only downside is it only has 61 cryptos, but its always adding news ones.

    http://icotracker.net - I like this site for looking at what ICO are coming up

    http://icobench.com - Another ICO tracker which does nice summaries, shows teams, milestones, financials and gives a rating for each ICO

    http://solume.io - compares the number of Twitter mention increase decrease to price

    http://eveningstar.io - this is basically like Morning Star except for cryptos

    https://bitcoin.tax - for calculating taxes owed on your crypto gains


    Great, I've got my coins now. HOW DO I KEEP MYSELF SECURE???

    General security tips

    Also consider getting a Nano Ledger/off-exchange wallet

    [General investing tips]

    1) Don't have more than 5-10% of your entire investment portfolio in crypto, and only invest what you can afford to have locked in for the long term.

    2) Don't chase a pump

    Never buy on rapid upswing on the candlestick chart if you're not sure why it happened and can't figure it out. The reason is likely that it is a Pnd. PnD is "Pump and dump" and it refers to a trading scam where people organize to coordinate the laddered purchase of an asset, then wait for others to come in at some delay and further increase the price before coordinating the unloading of their position once a specific price target is reached. This is illegal in the stock markets, but since cryptomarkets are unregulated such schemes are rampant. There are many PnD groups and today they are largely organized on Discord channels. They are now structured into tiers where the top tiers get a signal earlier than the bottom tiers and usually by the time the bottom tiers get the signal its too late, so unless you pay money to part of the top tier or have a connection with the admins its not even profitable. They are bad for the market as a whole and they prey on those who are looking for short term moons to latch onto. Don't look for things that you think will moon today, look for investments.

    3) Holding will give you more returns over a year than day trading.

    You will find that most people who made six figures or more in crypto did it by holding over the long term, very few get rich by day trading. That said you should definitely learn a few indicators to see if you're getting in at a reasonable entry point. I find that the MACD (moving average convergence divergence), RSI (relative strength index), market depth and support-resistance lines are the most useful indicators for crypto. MACD is useful for looking at where the long term price should be in divergence to the short term movement, RSI gives you an 0-1 rating of how overbought/oversold it is and support-resistance lines gives you a floor and ceiling for how high it will move in your buying period. If you do short term trading, do it when you have high certainty that a specific news will lead to an increase. Some of these specific events are: upcoming roadmap item releases, fork airdrops, exchange additions and partnerships. Short term buys like this are smart moves based on some underlying value assumption being changed, trading purely on volume and patterns is generally akin to gambling on markets that are as inefficient as most cryptoassets.

    4) Take your time and research what you are putting your money into.

    I cannot stress this enough, you are buying an asset with your hard earned money, and it should have some utility. Start by reading the whitepaper that is on the main site for the coin. You can avoid a lot of scams by simply critically evaluating the question: "Why does this coin exist?" Is it simply trying to apply a blockchain to something that doesn't need it or is there a transactional inefficiency/problem that the unique properties of the blockchain can solve? Ask yourself what value the actual token would have in the ecosystem its part of. Does it pay out some kind of dividend like some coins, or is its value in that its used as part of transaction fees and is thus being burned? You can make a simple checklist for every crypto and just answer these questions to yourself for each coin you look at:

    What is the problem or transactional inefficiency the coin is trying to solve?

    What is the Dev Team like? What is their track record? How are they funded, organized?

    Who is their competition and how big is the market they're targeting? What is the roadmap they created?

    How will they attract their target market, how is their marketing?

    How does the coin derive its value? Is there some sort of dividend structure, profit sharing plan, or is it a store of value within a digital economy? What is the float schedule like going forward (ie. how many coins will be released or burned)?

    5) Learn to recognize FOMO when it arises within you

    If you ever feel this itch to get in on an rapid upswing because you don't want to miss out on some new development that is causing it, stop yourself from knee jerk reacting to this feeling. This is called FOMO: "Fear of missing out" and its what drives the market now. It happens to everyone and it leads to emotional investing and knee jerk buying/selling.


    6)Accept that you will miss out on a lot of moon missions, and that's perfectly okay

    Right now the crypto market is like a giant dumb money party filled with coked up headless chickens running around throwing money at every ****coin with a low nominal price hoping it goes to $10,000 like Bitcoin. Everyone is a genius in a bull market, and this creates a feedback loop of more money come in. You will miss out on these gains, but don't let that get to you. By taking your time to make your decisions you end up focusing on the fundamentals rather than short term movements.

    7)Think of not only individual position, but how they fit in your portfolio and your diversification

    Your risk tolerance should dictate how much you allocate between your Core holdings (which are generally considered more "safe" since Bitcoin and Ethereum will be around for a long time) and the various segments. I personally am okay with a 30% core holdings, 70% across various other segments. However 60/40 splits between core and other segments is probably a good starting point for most newbies. You can make visualizations in excel with pie charts and keep tabs on your segment allocation.
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    If you've been into cryptos for 3+ years and don't have at least 1BTC, you're doing it wrong.
    By this do you mean 1 actual BTC or 1 BTC worth of value in your portfolio?
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    If you don't have the brave browser installed, and are not earning BAT then you must hate money.

    Also lindacoin is a great coin named after a beautiful girl.
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    If you don't have the brave browser installed, and are not earning BAT then you must hate money.

    Also lindacoin is a great coin named after a beautiful girl.
    Why you so bullish on BAT? It was notoriously one of the weakest coins during the last bull run
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    Why you so bullish on BAT? It was notoriously one of the weakest coins during the last bull run
    Do you even cryptobandit
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    Originally Posted by Gringo12 View Post
    Do you even cryptobandit
    unaware but I watched BAT in 2017 and it went from like 15 cents to 80 cents while almost every other coin did 30-100x gains or more
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    By this do you mean 1 actual BTC or 1 BTC worth of value in your portfolio?
    Actual, in your own custody, BTC. Can't help but smh at the fact that so many crypto brahs don't have any BTC to their name other than for trading purposes.

    Treat your BTC holdings like tithing, 10% of any profit you make off random coins should go towards stacking BTC. Also, considering the volumes and liquidity in a lot of these small cap alts that are poppin off, I don't count them as gains until it has translated to a stable coin, fiat or BTC.
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    Why you so bullish on BAT? It was notoriously one of the weakest coins during the last bull run
    You should already know the answer to this, and if you don't you have not learned anything.

    Pull up a NEO,OMG,Nano,XRP, or any other chart. Some people made a lot of money off of those tokens. Most however had the rug pulled. When the rug gets pulled you want to have something to catch you, and that is why im in BAT.

    Brave is competing with google,facebook,twitter,snapchat etc for the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on digital advertising per year, and ad agencies only care about one thing. How many eyeballs can they get per dollar. It just so happens that brave has the industries highest CTR and the price of ads only gets higher on google,fb,etc due to competition. Things are only becoming increasingly more bullish for BAT. Brave is at over 17m users and close to 1m content creators. Firefox is in a very bad state and on the verge of bankruptcy and their users number about 100m+ and they hate google and will have to find a new home soon. GDPR is heating up and advertisers are being pressured to find alternatives to tracking data, and the only alternatives beside brave are rife with fraud. Advertisers and the ad network when confronted play the pointing finger game when the client asks where their $7m ad spend went.

    BAT might have been a weak coin in 2017 and might seem like a weak coin right now, but its growing into a silicon valley unicorn extremely quickly right under everyones noses. Honey was acquired for $5B by paypall and they only have 20m users. Brave could potentially be a much much larger company than honey and is on track for 22m users by year end. If the crypto rug gets pulled again then BAT will actually have something to offer, and if the bull run continues BAT could gain tons of media attention. BAT just seems like a lower risk and extremely high reward play. In an ideal scenario, I will also be dumping all of my BAT on advertisers that actually need what im offering, not some poor dude that read some buzzwords in a whitepaper.
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    You should already know the answer to this, and if you don't you have not learned anything.

    Pull up a NEO,OMG,Nano,XRP, or any other chart. Some people made a lot of money off of those tokens. Most however had the rug pulled. When the rug gets pulled you want to have something to catch you, and that is why im in BAT.

    Brave is competing with google,facebook,twitter,snapchat etc for the hundreds of billions of dollars spent on digital advertising per year, and ad agencies only care about one thing. How many eyeballs can they get per dollar. It just so happens that brave has the industries highest CTR and the price of ads only gets higher on google,fb,etc due to competition. Things are only becoming increasingly more bullish for BAT. Brave is at over 17m users and close to 1m content creators. Firefox is in a very bad state and on the verge of bankruptcy and their users number about 100m+ and they hate google and will have to find a new home soon. GDPR is heating up and advertisers are being pressured to find alternatives to tracking data, and the only alternatives beside brave are rife with fraud. Advertisers and the ad network when confronted play the pointing finger game when the client asks where their $7m ad spend went.

    BAT might have been a weak coin in 2017 and might seem like a weak coin right now, but its growing into a silicon valley unicorn extremely quickly right under everyones noses. Honey was acquired for $5B by paypall and they only have 20m users. Brave could potentially be a much much larger company than honey and is on track for 22m users by year end. If the crypto rug gets pulled again then BAT will actually have something to offer, and if the bull run continues BAT could gain tons of media attention. BAT just seems like a lower risk and extremely high reward play. In an ideal scenario, I will also be dumping all of my BAT on advertisers that actually need what im offering, not some poor dude that read some buzzwords in a whitepaper.
    Just something to note, those that have adopted into brave ads are like 15% of brave users. So the majority of braves 17m users are not monetisable. They only have 17m * .15 = 2.55m monetisable users.

    The other thing that might cause them problems is their userbase is smarter. For ad ROI you want your userbase as dumb as possible, its why reality stars are great influencers because their fans are dumb as fuk.

    Bat mentions CTR but i dont know if theyve ever mentioned ROI or conversions which is the ultimate indicator. CTR is inflated on bat because guys still think you need to click to get paid, comes up all the time on the bat subreddit.
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    Actual, in your own custody, BTC. Can't help but smh at the fact that so many crypto brahs don't have any BTC to their name other than for trading purposes.

    Treat your BTC holdings like tithing, 10% of any profit you make off random coins should go towards stacking BTC. Also, considering the volumes and liquidity in a lot of these small cap alts that are poppin off, I don't count them as gains until it has translated to a stable coin, fiat or BTC.
    Amen. This is what I didn't learn last bull market. Made a ton of $, but in the end basically broke even once it was all done. One of my coins went from 11c to $3.20, and it is worth 0 now. It was also one of my biggest positions. Was 100% in alts last bull season. This time I am 50% BTC, 20% eth, 30% alts, which I'm sure a lot of ppl will say is too high, but UTK 20x over the last month really helped up my alt portfolio.
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    Just something to note, those that have adopted into brave ads are like 15% of brave users. So the majority of braves 17m users are not monetisable. They only have 17m * .15 = 2.55m monetisable users.

    The other thing that might cause them problems is their userbase is smarter. For ad ROI you want your userbase as dumb as possible, its why reality stars are great influencers because their fans are dumb as fuk.

    Bat mentions CTR but i dont know if theyve ever mentioned ROI or conversions which is the ultimate indicator. CTR is inflated on bat because guys still think you need to click to get paid, comes up all the time on the bat subreddit.
    They said the number was closer to 3m opted in, and that is a lower friction sell. They can drive that number a lot higher. Their userbase is made up of adblocking users, techies, crypto degens, and the anti google camp, these are the exact people you want at their stage. Its how firefox rose to its dominance in the early 2000's.

    Conversions rates are also high, and pretty sure their CTR factors in bounce rate. If these metrics were based off "people thinking they had to click to get paid" they wouldnt be running repeat campaigns with major advertisers. Not going to mention all the advertisers but they are some of the biggest household names, and Dentsu-Aegis is frothing at the mouth trying to get a private equity deal.

    Maybe im huffing hopium, but when they say that they are not doing additional funding rounds or looking for private equity you know they are in it for the long haul and dont want to give up equity or control. Pretty fkn bold to say "i dont want or need your cash"
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    I want to degen invest again
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    Originally Posted by mcdojo View Post
    Whats some promising tiny cap alts.

    I want to degen invest again
    I am holding onto UTK for dear life. Held at 1c, currently at 20c. Huge ICO, think something like $31mill, and was only at 5mill market cap, now at 100mill market cap. Probably won't break into top 100 though until it gets listed on Binance or other exchanges. Need to find stuff off of Binance with chance of being listed. Other coin I bought and keeping eye on is HPB which 3x past week. I gotta say I loved these coins back in the day and always had a bit, just added more to my stack over time. Not financial advice, and yes, shilling my coins, but only have time to follow so many small caps.

    Way I look at it, Paypal marketcap is 220billion, UTrust is 100million. Long long way to go, but who knows, things are changing, and vendors are sick of Paypal and credit card fees eating away at their margins. I would know, I run a business that loses ~$100k a year to credit card fees.
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