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    Lightbulb Ashes of Creation. WoW killer?????? [interview with Director Steven Sharif]

    Looks pretty interesting, it's an upcoming MMO. CEO and Creative Director is a long time MMO player so he seems to know his chit.

    Not sure when it's coming out but here's an interview/pre-alpha gameplay



    Asmongold interviews the Creative Director of the upcoming MMO Ashes of Creation, Steven Sharif. Ashes is a MMORPG which takes place within a medieval fantasy setting, blending imagination with cutting-edge graphics. Ashes of Creation will incorporate the best parts of traditional MMORPGs with innovative sandbox concepts. The first trailer of the game was released in 2019 and it is planned to be playable, at least in an alpha/beta format, in 2020. Can this be the hardcore MMORPG Classic WoW players might look forward once the 15 years old Blizzard game will reach its natural end? Mcconnell joins the discussion...



    One thing that I like is the PVP system. Can kill players and pop equipped gear from their body, das it.
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    looks similar to WoW but with great graphics. could be interesting, but WoW killers have always failed.

    lots of people just have too much investment in WoW to quit
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    looks similar to WoW but with great graphics. could be interesting, but WoW killers have always failed.

    lots of people just have too much investment in WoW to quit
    That's true but I just finished the interview and the CEO is 11/10 literal god status and gets it completely. Has the perfect mentality and goal path for what a legendary game is all about. Can't wait for this game now.

    Thanks brah
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    Nothing is going to kill WoW, it will just slowly die. The playerbase is too dedicated and have too much invested.

    AoC has a lot of potential though. The CEO is a long time MMO player and gamer nerd before he got into developing games, and has played all the classics.. You can tell in his interviews that he isn't just some CEO trying to make money, the dude totally gets it from a players point of view, because he is one. He's also funding the game and has no board of directors to answer to ETC.

    This game has great potential, more than Pantheon.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Nothing is going to kill WoW, it will just slowly die. The playerbase is too dedicated and have too much invested.

    AoC has a lot of potential though. The CEO is a long time MMO player and gamer nerd before he got into developing games, and has played all the classics.. You can tell in his interviews that he isn't just some CEO trying to make money, the dude totally gets it from a players point of view, because he is one. He's also funding the game and has no board of directors to answer to ETC.

    This game has great potential, more than Pantheon.
    Absolutely brah, agreed.

    Another good interview

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    WoW is there for the taking. I don't see the core player base leaving for another game, but plenty of us casuals have no interest in ever going back. I quit in early BoA and my interest was already hanging by a thread.
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Nothing is going to kill WoW, it will just slowly die. The playerbase is too dedicated and have too much invested.

    AoC has a lot of potential though. The CEO is a long time MMO player and gamer nerd before he got into developing games, and has played all the classics.. You can tell in his interviews that he isn't just some CEO trying to make money, the dude totally gets it from a players point of view, because he is one. He's also funding the game and has no board of directors to answer to ETC.

    This game has great potential, more than Pantheon.
    The CEO Steve somebody is personally funding the game to the tune of like $26mil.

    Where did he get his money?
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    Originally Posted by Tanerian View Post
    Nothing is going to kill WoW, it will just slowly die. The playerbase is too dedicated and have too much invested.
    There's a massive world and lore as well. These other games like New World have none of that.

    We've been hearing about WoW killers for like 15 years now and nothing has even come close.
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    I remember SWTOR thread years ago, with hundreds of posts. "THE WOW KILLER".
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    Originally Posted by ChristmasFnatic View Post
    I remember SWTOR thread years ago, with hundreds of posts. "THE WOW KILLER".
    Back in high school my friend and I created a guild for that game. Put so much time into it and recruited a lot of people, had a nice website. Then the game actually came out and I think I played it for a week without quitting it all. Great singleplayer game, but not an MMO...
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    looks similar to WoW but with great graphics. could be interesting, but WoW killers have always failed.

    lots of people just have too much investment in WoW to quit
    I am unable to play a game that uses wasd for movement.
    WOW ruined me for other games.
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    It's definitely one to watch, but WoW has a solid 4-5 years of classic content if it goes through BC/WOTLK, I don't think it'll be killed anytime soon
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    Thing about wow is its pvp lore no other games can give us a system and players for it
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    still a bit skeptical

    me personally from what I got from the interview, this is going to be a "hardcore mmo".


    While not a bad thing, my concern is that there will be a huge gap between people who "no-life" the game and people who are really only able to play say for 10-15 hours a week. Aka people with jobs. I mean I don't expect people who don't play as much to be the best players or gods at the game or expect them to be as good as people who put more time in the game.

    But coming from the perspective of somebody who wants to play a game, really enjoys a game but is unable to put the amount of time they would like, it would be extremely frustrating if there is an extremely huge gap between people who play say 10-15 hours a week to say somebody who plays 40-45 hours a week. You get what you put in but from that standpoint, why play the game, even try to gear up or do PvP content when you would just get completely destroyed with no hope of even competing. I guess big guilds can somewhat bridge this but as a "casual gamer", having a fighting chance would be nice, at least when it comes to end game. Otherwise it just becomes who can no life the game the most, I think there should be diminishing returns to it as to keep things more balanced, while still also providing benefit to playing more, maybe extra stats or skill points, but not have it so gamebreaking.
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    Originally Posted by hockeyman1 View Post
    Thing about wow is its pvp lore no other games can give us a system and players for it
    gotta say, WOW PVP is fun though.
    I enjoy it far more than fortnite (probably because I get sworn at by 12 yrs olds on the regular in fortnite).
    though, i've been playing a lot of team fortress 2 with the kids and that has been a good time also.
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    Game looks good but its still a long ways off. I tried to find a release date and best I can find are guesses sometime in 2022. Maybe 23.
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    there will never be an mmo that kills wow. wow will decline until blizzard stops supporting it, and nothing will ever be as big. unless there is some virtual reality type ****. but most kids these days don't like mmo type ****.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    there will never be an mmo that kills wow. wow will decline until blizzard stops supporting it, and nothing will ever be as big. unless there is some virtual reality type ****. but most kids these days don't like mmo type ****.
    A lot of young gamer's hate on WOW for some reason without even playing it.
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    WoW is there for the taking. I don't see the core player base leaving for another game, but plenty of us casuals have no interest in ever going back. I quit in early BoA and my interest was already hanging by a thread.
    I quit mid MoP and honestly I have 0 intention of coming back. Just sometimes watch the lore vids that is all.
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    I can't wait for another game to have real PvP like Asheron's Call Darktide server man. I hate people who "PvP" with no real consequences of you sucking, i.e. getting ganked for all your gear and server-wide KOS guilds.
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    Originally Posted by SiegeMT View Post
    I can't wait for another game to have real PvP like Asheron's Call Darktide server man. I hate people who "PvP" with no real consequences of you sucking, i.e. getting ganked for all your gear and server-wide KOS guilds.
    I think they said you can only lose your gear if you're ganking/abusing noobs in this game. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong
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    server-wide KOS guilds.
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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    I think they said you can only lose your gear if you're ganking/abusing noobs in this game. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong
    as a filthy casual I would support this.

    But they shouldn't lose it permanently.
    It should be confiscated and they have to earn it back by defeating people their own level.

    in retail WOW it really wasn't a problem when I played regularly because I had a guild and friends with high level toons ever so happy to grief someone camping my alt. then Blizzard started taking honor points from people who constantly attacked lesser toons and I noticed a difference.
    Now they have some other system I really haven't looked at because I only came back after a multi-year hiatus for classic.

    in classic my level 40 ish warrior doesn't get griefed much.
    sometimes people wait until i'm fighting a mob to attack me though. lol.
    dat platemail.

    but other MMO's i'm trying out where I'm new and don't know anyone...some people seem to have nothing better to do than just gank lowbies and corpse camp them to the point where you literally have to log for an hr or get on an alt so you can still play.
    have logged for 30 mins. and found phaggots still waiting around for me to spawn just so they can kill me again.
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    Originally Posted by NitrogenWidget View Post
    have logged for 30 mins. and found phaggots still waiting around for me to spawn just so they can kill me again.
    lmao for some people, making others rage is all they need out of a game
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    Originally Posted by drvillain View Post
    lmao for some people, making others rage is all they need out of a game
    I do remember shortly after starting classic a group of alliance attacked the Tauren starting area village and a bunch of us lowbies hid on the bottom of the nearby pond just past the hill with a lock giving everyone water breathing.
    there were a handful of us just hanging out shooting the chit.
    the rouge would occasionally sneak up to see if they were gone.

    I played a lock since TBC and I can't even remember if I ever needed to use water breathing.
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