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    whats now an ex, red pilled me into worthlesness

    Man, 2019/20 was ****ty. A years long project that kept me away from wage slaving closed, so I had to go back to cubicle and long ass commuting. It was in itself a complete monk mode. I did go out and met new people at rare occasions, but it was all short lived, and so empty that my go-to was actually reading misc all day, to fill the void of isolation on this ghey Earth. Then I met her, one weekend in my hometown. She was 21, and was waving Communist China Party red flags, but as time went on I ignored them all, because I had so much fun with her that everything else pales in comparison. Its been 9 months since, and also I had stable really long-term relationship before her, but years of that don't come close to months I had with her(the upsides). She was never quite normal, I just didn't know what to make out of it, until recently I realized and don't ask - she's NPD. Lots of symptoms. Little did I know that she was pulling mirroring/love bombing - devaluing - discard - hoovering cycles on me the whole time, from earliest stages into already defined relationship. I can give countless examples but not gonna bother, the bottom line is that last devalue-discard was really bad, subtle insults that I didn't see coming basically messed with my confidence irreversibly. For example, there were times when I was most stressed and had ED difficulties with her, because she just didn't bother getting me off. Oddly enough, frequency wasn't the problem, she was even the one to initiate it most of the time, but for 9 months it was like fukking a blow up doll. Few exceptions when it was good and plenty. Fast forward, I busted too soon (premature ejaculation), and then she criticised my performance, basically insulting me on the spot. Coupled with some unrelated tantrums of her, and her leaving quiet for 4 days then contacting me like nothing happened.

    This drove me to a final NC, which I think is the end of it, as she doesn't give a fukk either.

    But she polluted everything for me. We were at every place I can think of, almost cohabitated in my apartment, spent time in apartment in another city where I worked at, every possible place where you could go out, locations nearby we drove to. She's like a ghost, and triggers are everywhere. I feel sick doing usual things at the end of the day, even meeting HBs hotter than her is a trigger, because this reminds me that she's out there clubbing, drinking, smoking, and slooting it up like they all do, now that lockdown is over.

    Lifting is only thing keeping me normal but I'm going from scratch, because I lost all my gains and performance during quarantine, I'm met with new injury / tendonitis, and lifestyle that she brought along was also a factor. And then she even used that against me, as I lost too much weight, she was quick to make fun of me on that front as well.

    Bruhs, what do?

    Cliffs:
    -ususal story, probably oneitis, but more like being alpha widowed
    -what felt like insane connection, was NPD dynamics at play most likely, feels orders of magnitude worse than breaking up "normal" relationship
    -NPD or not, once the guard was down (while she was into it too), then devaluing and discards started happening, whatever the reason, could be better ex and me just a rebound, or demonstrating that any next guy can do better than me, feels like she was eventually just a mirror into my worthlessness to women, either by looks, complete persona, ability to keep her sexually interested, and so on.
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    Hey brother, I had a very similar experience. My relationship was 7 months. If you don't mind though can you go into detail of the love bombing, de valuing and discard? I had a very similar experience with my ex. It was my first relationship so I thought it was "normal"

    It started off with extreme love bombing, messaging me everyday, tagging me in everything on facebook , buying me gifts and so on and so forth, put me on such a big pedestal..she was also a freak in bed, wathed pr0n, into 50 shades of grey, wanted me to use dildos on her, messaging me saying she wanted me to try double penetration on her, anal and so on and so forth. She loved getting banged even when her pussy was dry. Just pull her tight jeans down and plow the crapp out her


    then over time started insulting me out of nowhere, telling me how my clothes were funny, or I smelt, dissing my behaviour. etc etc.
    Then the horrible discard, out of no where she sleeps with some random she met over Instagram and then a few weeks later gets into a relationship with another guy completely discarding me like I was nothing.


    **** ruined me for a very long time.


    It's still hard to get over . Literally took me a year of no contact. The problem is I speak and hang out with other girls but the high isn't the same as I had with her. Girl was crazy.


    Still think of her to this day. Like you feel alpha widowed. I slept with a girl 3 months ago man and she was ****ing so bad in bed I was furious andwent no contat the next day. Before that I had a friends with benefits for a while but she was didn't even compare to my ex (in bed).

    It's gonnnnna take a long time to get over this girl brother, don't know if ti will get better. here if you need to talk man.
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    You need to develop a stable sense of self. Your sense of self seems mostly a mirrored one, meaning it is widely influenced by what you think another person (e.g. spouse) thinks of you or how they react to you. You miss this rollercoaster of what you let her do to you, but that‘s not healthy.
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    I seem to be on the same boat. Once you meet an npd and hear about redpill theory you seem to see all women as the same. Let's be honest, it isn't even an overstatement. But who knows man. Just buy a ps4 or xbox and start playing aome games and distracting yourself with hobbies until you become your normal self and you get to attract some decent women again.

    Women can be a bunch of piece of **** bitches with no integrity and ***s can be sweating for that pussy playing it hard all day, I don't give a **** anymore lmao. Just chillin and you should too.
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    Hey brother, I had a very similar experience. My relationship was 7 months. If you don't mind though can you go into detail of the love bombing, de valuing and discard? I had a very similar experience with my ex. It was my first relationship so I thought it was "normal"

    It started off with extreme love bombing, messaging me everyday, tagging me in everything on facebook , buying me gifts and so on and so forth, put me on such a big pedestal..she was also a freak in bed, wathed pr0n, into 50 shades of grey, wanted me to use dildos on her, messaging me saying she wanted me to try double penetration on her, anal and so on and so forth. She loved getting banged even when her pussy was dry. Just pull her tight jeans down and plow the crapp out her


    then over time started insulting me out of nowhere, telling me how my clothes were funny, or I smelt, dissing my behaviour. etc etc.
    Then the horrible discard, out of no where she sleeps with some random she met over Instagram and then a few weeks later gets into a relationship with another guy completely discarding me like I was nothing.


    **** ruined me for a very long time.


    It's still hard to get over . Literally took me a year of no contact. The problem is I speak and hang out with other girls but the high isn't the same as I had with her. Girl was crazy.


    Still think of her to this day. Like you feel alpha widowed. I slept with a girl 3 months ago man and she was ****ing so bad in bed I was furious andwent no contat the next day. Before that I had a friends with benefits for a while but she was didn't even compare to my ex (in bed).

    It's gonnnnna take a long time to get over this girl brother, don't know if ti will get better. here if you need to talk man.

    she was weird from the day I met her, and weirdness is something I have a weak spot for tbh. We all thought she was stoned, but its just her personality, very strange in social setting. I got impression she's extreme introvert, but this is negated by her being a party type, and I couldn't narrow it down to simple personality traits.

    I know how pathetic it sounds, but out of the whole relationship, I recall that night most clearly, her facing me over the table when we were drinking (think this cuz thats exactly it, just with a smirk: W W W dot 105.net/resizer/659/-1/true/1427291416203.jpg--samara_morgan_.jpg - cant post links yet) - her hair, gaze, every gesture, the alien personality, and me being hypnotized from our first interaction, and then waking up next to each other's embrace on my couch. I had a raging wood but didn't push for sex, as I was on previous relationship's end (long story and it doesn't matter). I've been to some dark places in my life, and took too much black pill at that point, but I found my Zen so to speak, via hobbies, career, etc, however I don't remember the last time when I felt that alive.

    Soon we started seeing each other whenever possible, and there it begins.

    So as I mentioned, she's weird, and so the sex was weird. Even though it came out pretty fast that she had quite a notch count, she seemed very inexperienced, or rather shy, unable to let go fully. This limited certain things I could do with her, that I took for granted in previous relationships and encounters, specifically things that constitute good sex for me. And this caused me ED issue at occasions, as said. But when I just rolled with it, and especially in final "commitment stage", it was amazing. With one tiny bit - she was incapable of true intimacy. She would avoid eye contact, and in more than one way it felt like she evades being vulnerable. This isn't just sexually, there's a certain depth to which she could function emotionally in general, very shallow, and you can recognize the lack of empathy when you see it. I started suspecting APD, as she was also on suspended sentence for, gods know what actual reason, allegedly she's had conflicts at home, probably some troubles with weed and a junkie ex. She was medicated with anti-depressants and sleeping pills (and I'm telling you, she DOES NOT have depression). When I accidentally found what Cluster B personality disorders are, especially NPD, this matched perfectly:

    Love bombing / idealising supply: this wasn't directly verbal for her. she can't really articulate emotions very well. She manipulates in ways subtler that I thought were possible. it was lots of texting even when unnecessary, always lingering, asking to hang out very randomly. Push / pull so that every pull was like a drug. We used to spend 3-4 days in a row very early on, it was unreal, like some sort of dream too good to be true. Mirroring, or manufactured soulmates - whatever she was doing caused me to feel like I found my female counterpart, however stupid that sounds, she even used to say "are you me actually?". Had strange narratives that I never ever heard from normal person. And she was master of luring you in with quiet tone of voice, eye contact, and subtle messages. Also initiating sex a lot, according to what I wrote before, but where I started to feel "vampirized" - there was one time when I busted 5 times in a row by dry humping. As soon as we started having sex, we've done it unprotected mostly, I once tested if she would let me cum inside, and that was a yes even though she's not on a pill. She called me her BF down the road, when she was certain she has me.

    Devalue: early on this was just collecting "data" on me. she learned my insecurities, weaknesses, which would sometimes feel like she reads my mind(i have couple of creepy examples but thats another story), detecting them on a sensory level only, smelling my nervousness and reactions in different settings. As we got closer and closer, she would use those against me. Commenting how other people are hot, which I ignored, and many things I treated as **** tests. Then it got nasty. Straight out insults. Nonchalantly, sometimes with a smile on her face. Out of nowhere where I was like "what was that? can you repeat what you just said?". she never would, just acting like nothing happened, few times I thoght I need to get my ears checked. Revealing details from her past which I asked her not to. Gaslighting. Push-pull to ridiculous levels, she thrived on my confusion and growing need for her. We practically cohabitated during our last month. Being angry or cold at me for no reason, switching her expressions and the cold one was like that of a psychopath. Projecting, calling me "fake", a liar, for imaginary reasons. But she was unable or unwilling to communicate about anything like normal people do, there's no negotiation or boundaries with her. She just does not care and you will be cut off any attempt. You would think its up to you to be "dominating", but trust me it does not work, her tantrums and this behaviour is on a level of 5 year old.

    Of course we already reached a point where I told her that I love her (which I do no matter how fukked that is), and this was a death sentence. She would reciprocate but not as genuinely, and use it for push pull mind****s ("I love you, but..."). This where there was no doubt she has me, so some behaviours became worse.

    Discard: there were times when normal people usually require space while dating, but we got into NC for very bizzare reasons (her way or highway), and she would always hoover back like nothing happened. These were the discards. Each time repeating this whole cycle again because I was her supply. Before commitment, i noticed she had rotation of supplies, being social media attention whore, but thats normal these days, right? Well, I believe for her it was all about narcissistic supplies, and maybe its co-morbid with Histrionic, however I would call it a sort of "narcissistic hypergamy".
    The last discard was as I described in OP, and I actually blocked her after she tried fukking with my mind, then unblocked her 2 weeks later, but still ghosting her.
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    I seem to be on the same boat. Once you meet an npd and hear about redpill theory you seem to see all women as the same. Let's be honest, it isn't even an overstatement. But who knows man. Just buy a ps4 or xbox and start playing aome games and distracting yourself with hobbies until you become your normal self and you get to attract some decent women again.

    Women can be a bunch of piece of **** bitches with no integrity and ***s can be sweating for that pussy playing it hard all day, I don't give a **** anymore lmao. Just chillin and you should too.
    I agree but I think NPDs or Cluster B are the worse of female nature multiplied by 100. Yes, normal women manipulate and they possess narcissistic traits, such as shallow personalities, self-absorbed, impaired empathy, but those having a full blown disorder are like demons or entities. I've never seen anything like it.
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    Originally Posted by cantsquat315 View Post
    I agree but I think NPDs or Cluster B are the worse of female nature multiplied by 100. Yes, normal women manipulate and they possess narcissistic traits, such as shallow personalities, self-absorbed, impaired empathy, but those having a full blown disorder are like demons or entities. I've never seen anything like it.
    Yes I know the feeling. It's just a toxic tension ridden environment to be around cluster b's and everyone being a ****ing idiot these days does not give help to the ones being targeted by these pest energy-draining individuals. I would just go to faculty and this girl was constantly throwing passive-agressive insults towards me all day. Everytime I would try to confront she would ignore and avoid me. Up until the moment she got me in trouble telling everyone I was harrassing her. When she was actually harrassing me. It just made me want to barf seeing everyone being a complete ****ing idiot so I asked for a transfer and it worked. Now I'm in peace playing PS4, working and getting some games. Just waiting until I meet a decent girl to be around with.
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    Originally Posted by wave_length View Post
    You need to develop a stable sense of self. Your sense of self seems mostly a mirrored one, meaning it is widely influenced by what you think another person (e.g. spouse) thinks of you or how they react to you. You miss this rollercoaster of what you let her do to you, but that‘s not healthy.
    Hey man, i see you're from Vienna. I'm actually searching for jobs in Austria, my plan B was always to just get the hell out of here and start from scratch, and personally Vienna is my dream city, plus I'm one country away. Also, DAS GYM, the best gym in Europe as far as I can see, dat Eleiko section.

    OT, yes, that would be correct. I actually craved to be single and alone after a previous very long relationship where she was much more serious than I was, to have my routine back, do whatever I please, attached to no one. But this one appeared at very odd timing, she wasn't just another sexual or romantic obsession, but addition to everything else, company, and a friend when everyone left me behind, or so I thought. My problem is, I like to have selected few people in my life, and then specifically with women I get close to, abandonment issues pop up (I'm good at hiding it tho and I'm also red pill aware). I'm telling you, I felt like in some sort of movie or dream with this one, never happened to me before. I could see her demonic side from beginning, I got an eye for that, but the fact attracted me even more. I thought I was prepared, and didn't honestly expect it to last indefinitely, but it would be much easier if the person I fell in love with even existed. Turns out it was a mask or designed illusion, her only role to show how inadequate i am, and that I meant nothing at all to her, not even for second.
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    Yes I know the feeling. It's just a toxic tension ridden environment to be around cluster b's and everyone being a ****ing idiot these days does not give help to the ones being targeted by these pest energy-draining individuals. I would just go to faculty and this girl was constantly throwing passive-agressive insults towards me all day. Everytime I would try to confront she would ignore and avoid me. Up until the moment she got me in trouble telling everyone I was harrassing her. When she was actually harrassing me. It just made me want to barf seeing everyone being a complete ****ing idiot so I asked for a transfer and it worked. Now I'm in peace playing PS4, working and getting some games. Just waiting until I meet a decent girl to be around with.
    I agree with you, I just want my routine back, work on my projects, play games I didn't have time for, lift and sleep in peace without having this stain on my mind. I forgot to mention that I almost left for good few times, and just when the storm passed, like she could smell it, she hoovered back and pulled me in again, each time stronger than last. its been said they hoover 7 times before final discard. I may be wrong on numbers, but I think this is it.
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    I agree with you, I just want my routine back, work on my projects, play games I didn't have time for, lift and sleep in peace without having this stain on my mind. I forgot to mention that I almost left for good few times, and just when the storm passed, like she could smell it, she hoovered back and pulled me in again, each time stronger than last. its been said they hoover 7 times before final discard. I may be wrong on numbers, but I think this is it.
    She's worthless man. She can't commit. She's npd and she's probably narcissistic stupid. She's worth nothing a side a half decent kinda girl. Ditch this hoe she's nobody lmao. Like I know how it is and how you might feel but you need some respect for yourself as well. She can't come back whenever the **** she wants. Regardless of how hot she is or whatever she did in bed. Let's be real man. She has you wrapped around her finger if she comes back and you accept her, while you got nothing and nobody, not even her little hoe ass. She's nothing and you should treat her as such.
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    NC broke. Besides projecting, she told me that I'm ugly, to her. My black pills are confirmed, but at least she's erased now completely.
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    I went through something similar. Had a toxic relationship and that ended. Got into another relationship with a girl who was perfect, but she had the same damage as me and it was a brutal ending, both of us attacked the other for no reason. Then I had another relationship with a girl who was probably more damaged than me, and she held me to an unreasonably high standard that ended in her breaking up with me.

    I guess people come and go and we learn lessons. The thing that helped me the most was lifting honestly. Whenever I was alone and depressed, the only thing that made the pain go away was lifting, seriously. You need to forget her entirely and pay absolutely no attention to her. Live your life, be happy, try new things, travel, etc. One day she may very well look back on her life and realize she ruined her life by pushing you away. Now in my life I truly am happy and at peace with everything that has happened. I'm no longer bothered by it and I'm comfortable with talking about it. Then years after everything had ended, and I was told I was a piece of chit, loser, etc., my toxic ex came out and told me she was getting divorced and that I was the one who made her feel the most special.

    People can live with their decisions now because it's easy, but one, two, five, ten years down the line can you still live with that decision?
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    Originally Posted by JStrez View Post
    I went through something similar. Had a toxic relationship and that ended. Got into another relationship with a girl who was perfect, but she had the same damage as me and it was a brutal ending, both of us attacked the other for no reason. Then I had another relationship with a girl who was probably more damaged than me, and she held me to an unreasonably high standard that ended in her breaking up with me.

    I guess people come and go and we learn lessons. The thing that helped me the most was lifting honestly. Whenever I was alone and depressed, the only thing that made the pain go away was lifting, seriously. You need to forget her entirely and pay absolutely no attention to her. Live your life, be happy, try new things, travel, etc. One day she may very well look back on her life and realize she ruined her life by pushing you away. Now in my life I truly am happy and at peace with everything that has happened. I'm no longer bothered by it and I'm comfortable with talking about it. Then years after everything had ended, and I was told I was a piece of chit, loser, etc., my toxic ex came out and told me she was getting divorced and that I was the one who made her feel the most special.

    People can live with their decisions now because it's easy, but one, two, five, ten years down the line can you still live with that decision?

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    General update:
    This last text contact shouldn't have happened. I was expecting that she can do anything at this stage, being her final draw as I'm discarded, but it was just a rabbit hole.

    She was her usual "self", jumping from one thing to another, and then she asked me for a small favor, irrelevant to the topic. After that she said these are just friendly conversations from now on, that we're broken up. I told her I didn't pull that trigger, she did, and its because she's a liar and NPD.

    She went on on how I "cheated" on her for half a year with my ex (which is her favorite projection and gaslighting to rationalize discard and its false of course - because when we met I was getting out of dying relationship, and I told her, she knew that, while she openly admitted she had sex 3 times during the course of a month when we weren't committed back then). Then as i held my point of view / the truth, she escalated to mention another reason for this, and I quote: "its also because you are ugly I'm sure someone finds you attractive, but this is just my opinion, sorry".

    Now, this one's interesting cuz I slipped and expressed that I view myself as such (when i was drunk af and digesting black pill). It could be that's her view of me, and that would explain lack of real intimacy, or could be another NPD tactic to get at me, out of narcissistic injury because I was being pretty straightforward this time. Not harsh enough to provoke this response, because I wasn't insulting her per se, just sick of bull****. I actually even said that I fell in love with person that never existed, and that must've stroked her ego to know I ever did, but thats another confirmation to me that for some people it means nothing if you tell them you love them, specifically NPD. (I don't think I was ever beta, its just that I don't fake or limit my feelings to what red pill might dictate). To that she added, I was also aggressive/hostile with her during the relationship (this is a projection on a superpower level), and a control freak (this one is just WTF).

    I also heard from her female "friend" from work (she recently had a job and quit, she cant keep a job to save her life), and I was told that she was insanely rude with everyone, that she insulted this girl pretty bad and then ghosted her lol (she was in bad relations at work, and fabricated that she was the victim which I never bought into, but thats why she quit).

    When she called me ugly, that was below the belt, maybe the nastiest blow up to this point, but at least she managed to erase herself to zero in my eyes. She's not just a dumb sloot and whore in my mind, i actually like sl00ts and prostitutes, they have their place, but an utter garbage and scum that I wouldn't hesitate to destroy if it crosses my path again.

    On a lighter note, as soon as I was done with that, I accidentally caused one of my laptops to awake, the one that was in sleep mode for about a week, where I last played one browser game that was left at: "YOU LOST! Keep trying!" . I guess thats the takeaway. Btw I always had synchronicities going on with this demonic bitch.
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    Dude these types of girls you do not argue with do not rationalize with. Just agree with what they say e en if you dont and let them do their thing they will listen to nobody and they care about nobody.

    You can have sex with her but be prepared to cut her loose at any minute

    Never date these girls for long or live with them
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    "buying me gifts and so on and so forth, put me on such a big pedestal..she was also a freak in bed, wathed pr0n, into 50 shades of grey, wanted me to use dildos on her, messaging me saying she wanted me to try double penetration on her, anal and so on and so forth."

    lol if you think these girls are "sane"

    thats the trade off son

    crazy sex but completely unstable
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    Originally Posted by savageoldman View Post
    "buying me gifts and so on and so forth, put me on such a big pedestal..she was also a freak in bed, wathed pr0n, into 50 shades of grey, wanted me to use dildos on her, messaging me saying she wanted me to try double penetration on her, anal and so on and so forth."

    lol if you think these girls are "sane"

    thats the trade off son

    crazy sex but completely unstable
    Exactly. No girl whom I've met that is good to be around is overtly sexual or with such urges to be pronounced hyper-sexual. As some years pass alone you can't really recognize what is "sane" and what isn't with a woman when it comes to a relationship. Especially after visiting the redpill theory. You simply assume all women like sex and it's part of their feminine nature to be bitchy, crazy and narcissistic. I disagree. Redpill theory allows you to **** whores, but doesn't give you a good relationship with a good woman.

    This bish calling you ugly isn't even black pill. Women don't care that much about visuals as men for a relationship and that's a good thing. However a woman that talks **** needs to be kicked out period.

    Girl I dated was calling me a masochist on chat because I allowed her to be a complete bitch. I simply told her that's how she wanted to act an I would've treated her the same. She simply said she didn't want to give me high hopes because she didn't want a relationship. Even tho I literally dated her bitch ass and I know for a fact that she would've let me kissed her. But she's a damaged hoe worth nothing that doesn't know respect so I purposely didn't go to that level just to see if she would have a second date and make a move then. As I expected; she didn't. Bitches themselves give basic one casual lay status and when you try to pull them in a healthy relationship they get mad and do bs all the time cuz of some psyche **** in her head. **** her and everyone like her. Nothing but bs.

    Like legit, this bitch could've told me from the beginning she didn't want to date but instead allowed a date to feel like it was above her will so that she didn't feel guilt if I kissed her, etc. Bitches got none integrity and talk **** every time they're confronted. I don't date stupid hoes and I don't givr a **** if redpill gets you to lay pieces of ****. **** out son.

    You don't even need a whole theory system to **** a hoe you dudes on reddit if anything are some retarded betas that overthink hoes. Stupid ass ****
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    Exactly. No girl whom I've met that is good to be around is overtly sexual or with such urges to be pronounced hyper-sexual. As some years pass alone you can't really recognize what is "sane" and what isn't with a woman when it comes to a relationship. Especially after visiting the redpill theory. You simply assume all women like sex and it's part of their feminine nature to be bitchy, crazy and narcissistic. I disagree. Redpill theory allows you to **** whores, but doesn't give you a good relationship with a good woman.
    Thats true, but I would even question that its "the red pill allowing you to get whores". You don't need some secret knowledge for that. When they give it up so fast that you didn't even have time to demonstrate the SMV / "red pill life" you're leading, then its not redpill. Its not always the looks either, as evident by her calling me ugly after we had sex countless times plus exclusivity for a while. Its true she never gave me compliments on looks, and did glorify other peoples (both men and women) - which TRP will tell you is a **** test and "you need to keep frame and remain confident bro", but in the end it was her choice to be with an "ugly guy".

    Its mostly just time and place. And variation or fresh mystery they're seeking. And as you observed, its not a secret to good relationship either - you see, I had some best relationships and sex in my oblivious "blue pill days", but when I was being analytical with TRP, I experienced the worst. Thats why they say "just spin more plates". Because AWALT, and being deadly afraid of "oneitis"(which wouldn't be a problem without AWALT). I like the concept of vetting for quality though, but outside of that, "indulging in decline" is what ironically makes it even worse.
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    Originally Posted by cantsquat315 View Post
    Thats true, but I would even question that its "the red pill allowing you to get whores". You don't need some secret knowledge for that. When they give it up so fast that you didn't even have time to demonstrate the SMV / "red pill life" you're leading, then its not redpill. Its not always the looks either, as evident by her calling me ugly after we had sex countless times plus exclusivity for a while. Its true she never gave me compliments on looks, and did glorify other peoples (both men and women) - which TRP will tell you is a **** test and "you need to keep frame and remain confident bro", but in the end it was her choice to be with an "ugly guy".

    Its mostly just time and place. And variation or fresh mystery they're seeking. And as you observed, its not a secret to good relationship either - you see, I had some best relationships and sex in my oblivious "blue pill days", but when I was being analytical with TRP, I experienced the worst. Thats why they say "just spin more plates". Because AWALT, and being deadly afraid of "oneitis"(which wouldn't be a problem without AWALT). I like the concept of vetting for quality though, but outside of that, "indulging in decline" is what ironically makes it even worse.
    That has been my experience as well. Blue pill days I had the hottest gf and a ton of options. Went redpill and all that vanished. Yet the way it vanishes reminds me in itself of AWALT. No woman is to dig deeply in to why I go redpill or mgtow. Most don't care about anything unrelated to their own pleasure and needs and when you actually stand up for yourself in look for the woman that can be there for your needs is the moment most women simply scram away. Blue pill days gave me a lot of women but looking back it was a drama filled life. Every interaction with my gf and her friends is taken out of some Skins episode. Meanwhile alone I just work, sleep and live in peace. Many women come by with the possibility of a relationship but come in bringing passive-agressive fits, narcissism and gossip. When you're alone for such long time and go through such contact the way your entire life changes when dealing with npd women is jaw dropping disturbing. Whilst the same women when you kick them out every possible way simply say you're a pussy or a crybaby. Such array of traits is disgusting and so many women can walk on being like this with seemingly no consequences. The redpill mainly functioned for me to build character and understand that some women that are not on my needs are not worth my time and therefore I've been in around 3 failed started relationships.

    First scenario: She would gossip about me had all faculty do passive aggressive insults at me. Then would attention whore all day around me. Passed. Had a massive blow up socially and was called a stocker up until I ran.

    Second scenario: girl would flirt with me even tho she had a bf, she would bend over like 3 times when I was behind her purposely for me to see her vajay. Good **** but she had a bf at the time. Told her let's go out so that she could stop this attention whoring and live up to it. Acted offended and told me she had a bf. Never talked to her again.

    Third: We chatted online, she started insulting me out of the blue, we dated and I purposely didn't make moves on her because I wanted to go slow, didn't want a second date and more bs.

    I got a fourth right now: says she goes out with just one guy and is okay with heading to my crib after covid passes. She is the most honest of the bunch so I'll try and get the lay on that but yea, honesty in women is a rarity and thanks to the redpill I can somewhat get some consistency and sanity in my relationships. Of course she isn't sexual in any way even tho she is okay with going to my house but it's just simple human courtesy to allow a decent build up to a relationship.

    Every woman that flirts sexually with me before even starting a relationship is attention whoring. Also have another girl that is kinda of a good person, she has a bf I think as well but we smile to each other throughout the day. She's the nicest a woman has been to me in a while. Like legit women with good character are way bigger turn on then some diva bitchy sluts
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