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    For the last few months I've varied my diet. Very low calorie and then eating higher intake eating anything. Including junk. Have seen no significant change in weight.

    I've also tried very low calorie intake. Still stays the same or little change. Have tested different cycles of IF.

    Since the virus hit, haven't been to the gym. Have lifted lighter weights and done cardio.

    Apart from calories in and calories out. Are there any other suggestions as to why there is no change. What exercises can I do to drop weight or a diet to follow.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    For the last few months I've varied my diet. Very low calorie and then eating higher intake eating anything. Including junk. Have seen no significant change in weight.
    So, you're surprised by this? The bottom line is that your are, over an average week, eating at maintenance.

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    I've also tried very low calorie intake. Still stays the same or little change. Have tested different cycles of IF.
    See my comment above. You have to CONSISTENTLY eat at a deficit over time. If your deficit is small, the scale will move very slowly. Meal timing (IF) means nothing. It just helps some people eat less.

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    Apart from calories in and calories out. Are there any other suggestions as to why there is no change. What exercises can I do to drop weight or a diet to follow.
    No. It IS calories in vs calories out. Have you not read the nutrition stickies? (In your post from January that recommendation was made.)
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    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    So, you're surprised by this? The bottom line is that your are, over an average week, eating at maintenance.

    See my comment above. You have to CONSISTENTLY eat at a deficit over time. If your deficit is small, the scale will move very slowly. Meal timing (IF) means nothing. It just helps some people eat less.

    No. It IS calories in vs calories out. Have you not read the nutrition stickies? (In your post from January that recommendation was made.)

    I have followed the advice. Was on low calories for months and no change. Thought would eat as i want and see what happens. Even with that it didnt shift up. Maybe slightly. Could there be another issue, something I am missing.
    I need a new workout as gym's are closed.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    I have followed the advice. Was on low calories for months and no change. Thought would eat as i want and see what happens. Even with that it didnt shift up. Maybe slightly. Could there be another issue, something I am missing.
    I need a new workout as gym's are closed.
    Might need to put in a little effort and read all the stickies available. You seem confused about a great many things..

    Good news is, all the information you need is already written in the stickies. Go get after it!
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    I have followed the advice. Was on low calories for months and no change. Thought would eat as i want and see what happens. Even with that it didnt shift up. Maybe slightly. Could there be another issue, something I am missing.
    I need a new workout as gym's are closed.
    What you did was THINK you were on low calories however you weren't when it came down to it. You were eating and drinking things and not recording them that is if you even record anything.
    If you don't get what you want you didn't want it bad enough
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    What you did was THINK you were on low calories however you weren't when it came down to it. You were eating and drinking things and not recording them that is if you even record anything.
    I believe I have been accurate with my records. There can always be some error. As stated packets are not 100% correct. I was on a low calorie diet. If we use that as the change fr the following month there is a deduction.

    Then i increased my intake and have eaten as I want, including junk food. with both methods have not seen any significant change. i need a suggestion with that in mind. Maybe it's not something on the forum anyone else has been thorough. Or there isn't an answer for it and I have to see where else I can get that info. I've understood the explanation of deficit.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    I believe I have been accurate with my records. There can always be some error. As stated packets are not 100% correct. I was on a low calorie diet. If we use that as the change fr the following month there is a deduction.

    Then i increased my intake and have eaten as I want, including junk food. with both methods have not seen any significant change. i need a suggestion with that in mind. Maybe it's not something on the forum anyone else has been thorough. Or there isn't an answer for it and I have to see where else I can get that info. I've understood the explanation of deficit.
    You aren't some "special" exception to the rules of thermodynamics.

    If your weight didn't change for "months" then you were eating more than you thought that you were.

    Period.

    Learn how to accurately weight/measure and log literally everything that goes into your mouth and try again.
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    Originally Posted by Luclin999 View Post
    You aren't some "special" exception to the rules of thermodynamics.
    The point you make is very fair. I will go through the stickies again and start a fresh. A new diet or workout suggestion would be welcome.

    From what I have said for a moment if that is accurate. Is there any advice other then what is already stated. As I've increased and decreased intake with no real change. Any advice on assuming what I have said is accurate.
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    In April of 2019, OP (5' 11", 174 pounds) ate only 1174 calories a day "for months" without weight changes...

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    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    In April of 2019, OP (5' 11", 174 pounds) ate only 1174 calories a day "for months" without weight changes...

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    I kept to that. Didn't change. So went up in calories with similar results

    I am recording my intake. Want to figure out what else it could be
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    The point you make is very fair. I will go through the stickies again and start a fresh. A new diet or workout suggestion would be welcome.

    From what I have said for a moment if that is accurate. Is there any advice other then what is already stated. As I've increased and decreased intake with no real change. Any advice on assuming what I have said is accurate.
    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    In April of 2019, OP (5' 11", 174 pounds) ate only 1174 calories a day "for months" without weight changes...

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    Lol there you go OP. Either your tracking is way off, or you have a medical condition preventing your body from following the same thermodynamic laws as the rest of us.

    Hint: I'm betting it's the former.
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    Originally Posted by sunsean View Post
    Lol there you go OP. Either your tracking is way off, or you have a medical condition preventing your body from following the same thermodynamic laws as the rest of us.

    Hint: I'm betting it's the former.
    Then I'll have to go back to the basics and try an identify what am doing wrong. If I could see my own errors I would have corrected it by now. I need to identify a repeat diet I can follow week in week out. Also exercise to go along with it. Currently all am doing is cardio and light weights. As gym access is restricted. Is there a home regime I can follow.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    Maybe it's not something on the forum anyone else has been thorough. Or there isn't an answer for it and I have to see where else I can get that info. I've understood the explanation of deficit.
    What do you want to hear?
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    What do you want to hear?
    Not looking for a magic answer. If there were any other views or suggestions. Maybe a diet plan to follow or workout. Thanks guys for the advice. I'll go through the stickies and see if can adjust what I am doing. See if it produces any changes over the next couple of months.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    Not looking for a magic answer. If there were any other views or suggestions. Maybe a diet plan to follow or workout. Thanks guys for the advice. I'll go through the stickies and see if can adjust what I am doing. See if it produces any changes over the next couple of months.
    Past eating less on a weekly basis there really isn't any other options. You need to eliminate processed carbs as much as possible. Just that alone and not eating calorie dense things like peanut butter will help keep calories in check. You'll be hungry for a little while if you're doing it right however that goes away once you adapt to a proper deficit. If you can't get past some hunger you won't be successful
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Past eating less on a weekly basis there really isn't any other options. You need to eliminate processed carbs as much as possible. Just that alone and not eating calorie dense things like peanut butter will help keep calories in check. You'll be hungry for a little while if you're doing it right however that goes away once you adapt to a proper deficit. If you can't get past some hunger you won't be successful
    Thanks, will make sure to follow strict rules. I've seen a lot of low carb diet suggestions. Too low seem difficult to follow. I would think the overall calorie is more important. i tried the keep it up to 100g carbs a day and 50g didn't see any difference. Need to find what works for me.

    Will post up a weeks intake. Seek suggestions and follow it and monitor progress. Thanks all
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    Thanks, will make sure to follow strict rules. I've seen a lot of low carb diet suggestions. Too low seem difficult to follow. I would think the overall calorie is more important. i tried the keep it up to 100g carbs a day and 50g didn't see any difference. Need to find what works for me.

    Will post up a weeks intake. Seek suggestions and follow it and monitor progress. Thanks all
    If you don't already have one, go buy a kitchen scale (or Amazon). WEIGH you foods. Spoonfulls, eyeballing, and estimating will have you spinning your wheels.

    Good luck. You CAN do this.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    Thanks, will make sure to follow strict rules. I've seen a lot of low carb diet suggestions. Too low seem difficult to follow. I would think the overall calorie is more important. i tried the keep it up to 100g carbs a day and 50g didn't see any difference. Need to find what works for me.

    Will post up a weeks intake. Seek suggestions and follow it and monitor progress. Thanks all
    You're mistaking processed carbs with good carbs. Processed have mega calories and don't satiate. No need to post intake as those are always underscored. The proof is in the loss or lack of loss. Your body doesn't know numbers only if it's given energy to either reduce mass, gain mass or maintain mass. No loss = no deficit. You need to get your head around that. You've been given suggestions and for some reason you're not hearing it. Either hear it or stop posting
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    You're mistaking processed carbs with good carbs. Processed have mega calories and don't satiate. No need to post intake as those are always underscored. The proof is in the loss or lack of loss. Your body doesn't know numbers only if it's given energy to either reduce mass, gain mass or maintain mass. No loss = no deficit. You need to get your head around that. You've been given suggestions and for some reason you're not hearing it. Either hear it or stop posting
    I've heard it. The amount of calories i consumed has to be a deficit or I have a very low metabolism. Even if is underscored, can't be much higher. I'll come up with a new plan and give it a go.
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    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    If you don't already have one, go buy a kitchen scale (or Amazon). WEIGH you foods. Spoonfulls, eyeballing, and estimating will have you spinning your wheels.

    Good luck. You CAN do this.
    I got one. Thanks, for the encouragement.
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    Originally Posted by training12 View Post
    Then I'll have to go back to the basics and try an identify what am doing wrong. If I could see my own errors I would have corrected it by now. I need to identify a repeat diet I can follow week in week out. Also exercise to go along with it. Currently all am doing is cardio and light weights. As gym access is restricted. Is there a home regime I can follow.
    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    If you don't already have one, go buy a kitchen scale (or Amazon). WEIGH you foods. Spoonfulls, eyeballing, and estimating will have you spinning your wheels.

    Good luck. You CAN do this.
    Good advice here OP. You mentioned "labels" earlier which makes it sound like you're just eye-balling your food based on label info. You really need to invest in a food scale (not expensive) and be meticulous about EVERYTHING you eat. Only then can you have some confidence in your diet, and even then not 100% accurate.
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