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    Martha Hart(Owen's Wife): WWE HOF is Garbage

    Owen Hart's widow Martha did an interview with CBSSports.com to promote the upcoming Dark Side of the Ring episode which recaps his accidental death at the 1999 Over The Edge PPV. Here are a few highlights:

    What to expect from the episode: "I'm just one individual and the WWE is a PR powerhouse. They've always had the upper hand with getting their message and their side of things out. This episode really provided the opportunity to tell the real story and tell how I had the biggest fight of my life. It was a real David and Goliath battle and how awful they were to me and how disrespectful they were to Owen."

    How WWE handled the situation: "When Owen died, they scooped him out like a piece of garbage and they paraded wrestlers out to wrestle in a ring that had Owen's blood, where the boards were broken from Owen's fall and where the guys could feel the dip in the ring from where he fell. Just that disrespect and lack of respect for a human life that had just been lost," Martha Hart said. "The fact that they didn't stop the show is just appalling. Vince McMahon was a poor leader, and he failed because that talent was looking for leadership and he failed them."

    Owen and the WWE Hall of Fame: "There's always been this talk that, 'Oh, we want to put Owen in the Hall of Fame. Their Hall of Fame? They don't even have a Hallway of Fame. It doesn't exist. There's nothing. It's a fake entity. There's nothing real or tangible. It's just an event they have to make money. They put it on TV and have a celebration, and it's just so ridiculous. I would never even entertain it. It's garbage."
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    Kennedy is a fuking piece of chit and I was happy to see the xfl fail again. Fuk him.
    i like the one that says "some pulp".
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    Well, she's not wrong. The WWE HOF is a joke. Far too diluted.
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    So many wrestlers in the hof have no business being in it.

    I don’t think we’ve had one undeserving Headliner in a hof class yet though. I don’t think I’m wrong or think wwe has gotten that part wrong yet.

    They did mess up with Drew Carey in the celebrity wing and yet they haven’t Inducted butterbean yet!
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    Kennedy is a fuking piece of chit and I was happy to see the xfl fail again. Fuk him.

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    She is right about the HOF being garbage, but cannot agree with her on stopping the show. Even 21 years later you will find many who say it should have been & many who say it shouldn't. To expect Vince to make a call on the spot like that is ridiculous seeing as it was unprecedented & he wasn't actually pronounced dead until later at the hospital. The only thing I will criticise him for is him saying people would have rioted if he had stopped the show-ridiculous.
    And that's the bottom line, cause Jimbob said so.
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    She is right about the HOF being garbage, but cannot agree with her on stopping the show. Even 21 years later you will find many who say it should have been & many who say it shouldn't. To expect Vince to make a call on the spot like that is ridiculous seeing as it was unprecedented & he wasn't actually pronounced dead until later at the hospital. The only thing I will criticise him for is him saying people would have rioted if he had stopped the show-ridiculous.
    Riot is probably too intense of a word- but we're talking about wrestling fans here... there definitely would have been some very upset people.
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    The only thing I will criticise him for is him saying people would have rioted if he had stopped the show-ridiculous.
    Not that I disagree entirely with that last statement, but it's definitely plausible.

    I've been to two PPV WWE/WWF shows in my life and those were enough for me not to ever want to return.... Granted my last trip was in 2003 Summer Slam, the quality of human attending the show was lowest of the low. There were fights breaking out in the hallways and bathrooms. The guy next to me had an awful nose piercing stench... Nosebleed section at least.

    I can totally see 20000 fans in the late 90's going ballistic and begin rioting.
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    Kennedy is a piece of garbage.

    The show should have continued (even Owen Hart would have been happy with that)

    The HOF is a joke.

    Fukk the Martha.
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    Another thing, the raw after Owens death, was the moment I realised Wrestling was 'fake'. I was 12 yrs, 6 months old.
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    Is everyone in the Hart family miserable and bitter?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Is everyone in the Hart family miserable and bitter?
    Fukk you. Say that to a Hart family members face and see what happens to ya.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Is everyone in the Hart family miserable and bitter?
    i know right? fuk her for being salty that her husband basically got murdered by his employer. what a whiny bitch.
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    Originally Posted by BallGameFan View Post
    Riot is probably too intense of a word- but we're talking about wrestling fans here... there definitely would have been some very upset people.
    You might have a few idiots-but the atmosphere of that show was pardon the pun dead after it happened-people were just in a stake of shock. Ut beat Austin for the belt but there was no real heat or pop & everybody was just going through the motions.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Is everyone in the Hart family miserable and bitter?
    Keith is pretty laid back I think.
    And that's the bottom line, cause Jimbob said so.
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    Originally Posted by jimbob007 View Post
    She is right about the HOF being garbage, but cannot agree with her on stopping the show. Even 21 years later you will find many who say it should have been & many who say it shouldn't. To expect Vince to make a call on the spot like that is ridiculous seeing as it was unprecedented & he wasn't actually pronounced dead until later at the hospital. The only thing I will criticise him for is him saying people would have rioted if he had stopped the show-ridiculous.
    I generally side with the talent there at the time and the majority agreed with Vince. Call it callous or carnie, but it's just the way things went. And yeah, the riot thing was bull****. Everyone in that building knew they'd just witnessed a man die.

    We will never see Owen Hart's face on any new material from the WWE ever again.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    I generally side with the talent there at the time and the majority agreed with Vince. Call it callous or carnie, but it's just the way things went. And yeah, the riot thing was bull****. Everyone in that building knew they'd just witnessed a man die.

    We will never see Owen Hart's face on any new material from the WWE ever again.
    Yep, they are performers who were hyped up to be on a PPV & no doubt felt obligated to go out there-even though none of them really wanted to. I personally think Vince should have halted the show & did at the time & have never changed my view on that & certainly as soon as Owen's death was confirmed I think the announcement should have been made to the audience, refunds offered etc.

    I think eventually You will see it-but not until Vince is gone & HHH makes a sincere effort to make things right with Martha, promotes the foundation etc.
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    Fukk you. Say that to a Hart family members face and see what happens to ya.
    Name one person in the Hart family that is happy.
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    Name one person in the Hart family that is happy.
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    Vince has always been a pos. I use to love wrestling when i was a kid. Back when theu woukd try and make you think it was real. Deep down you knew it wasent but you wanted to believe it was and you had momebts where you foubd yourself asking your self this one could be legit.

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    Name one person in the Hart family that is happy.
    I always used to think the Von Erichs were the most f'd up family in wrestling-but at least despite all the tragedies the brothers were super tight & stuck together against the scumbag father. The Hart's from Bret's book were always a'holes doing horrible things to each other as kids, all hate each other & the women that married in seem to have just picked up the same way of life. The only time they ever 'get along' is when there is a wrestling payday on the line.
    And that's the bottom line, cause Jimbob said so.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Name one person in the Hart family that is happy.
    Name one family member that Vince hasn't screwed/killed.
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