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    Rated RKO Criticized for Their WrestleMania Match

    The Randy Orton vs. Edge Last Man Standing match at Wrestlemania 36 received some criticism for a spot that involved Orton choking Edge with a weight cable. The spot was considered controversial because Chris Benoit committed suicide by hanging himself with a cable from his weight machine.

    Dave Meltzer of F4WOnline.com discussed the spot:

    “I know people in the company it affected. It probably affects the talent more than the fans, you can say some fans are new, and haven’t seen it. You can’t name one wrestler who doesn’t know the Chris Benoit story.”

    The segment was also criticized for the length and commentary. The match was 36:41 and barely surpassed the Wrestlemania 16 main event (36:26) as the second-longest match in Wrestlemania history.

    “The editors were so lost in another universe, they are so out of sync,” Meltzer said. “This went through all these channels for a week, over a week, editing, and nobody took the Benoit spot out, nobody cut the match down.”

    Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez's title for their review of the match was “the most boring match in Wrestlemania history.”
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    Wasn't Edge the guy Benoit texted after he killed his wife and kids before offing himself?
    I think it needs a lot of overanalyzing to think of Benoit here. It's been nearly 15 years and a backstage brawl is not a vanitas still life nor the Firefly Funhouse. Not everything has to be a symbol. It's a just match. You see a cable, you choke someone.

    Considering the length of the match. Yes, it was a little long watching it in a vacuum. Making it overly long still was the right decision IMO. A backstage brawl is basically the best thing you can do havin no crowd. Taking time away from the guys, who have to perform subpar in ring matches without a crowd, is the right decision here. The only other option would have been to have two backstage brawls, but that would have made each less special. I think it was the best option.
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    I think Orton might have a stalker
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    Saw no problem with the spot

    The commentary fukking sucked though. They would either go silent or be whispering and it was just awkward as fuk. Also got tired of hearing “they’re heading into the main office now of the performance center, they’re headed now to the backstage production area of the performance center, they’re headed to the gym of the performance center, they’re headed to a storage area of the performance center”
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    Foley and Rock did it better. Much better. I liked the concept, but the match just wouldn't end. Regardless of the Benoit connection, I think strangling is just a big no in the WWE these days. Daniel Bryan was fired for strangling the ring announcer several years back.
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    Roman vs HHH and Roman vs Brock in the past couple years were orders of magnitude more boring than the Edge Orton match. Dave angling for them clicks though I guess.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    I think strangling is just a big no in the WWE these days..
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    Benoit didn't even cross my mind watching that spot.. at all. Whatever.
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    Match told a great story but was at least 10 minutes too long imo.
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    Dave looking for clicks, good match, commentary was awful.
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    To be honest, the first 2/3 of the match left me feeling under-whelmed.

    When they fought on top of the pick up and then on top of the truck at the end though, that was really cool. And at that point I could not look away.
    Ending was epic and made the whole thing worth it.
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    Dave's reaching and honestly I didn't read or hear a word about Benoit while that match was on or afterward. he's the only guy who drew that comparison and made such a fit about it
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    Seems like a stretch to me, plus it's not exactly recent history, so I don't have an issue with the choke.

    The match was a bit on the long side, it definitely plodded a bit in the middle but great ending shot.
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    Meltzer is a chode.

    the match was long. too long. what didnt help is you had two librarians on commentary whispering for whatever reason calling the match. i guarantee this wouldnt be an issue if it was mauro or JR calling the action.
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    Better just shut down wrestling altogether. After all, people have been beaten to death in real life by punches and kicks, and people might make the connection to these deaths if viewing any match on WWE, AEW, etc..

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    Originally Posted by BallGameFan View Post
    Benoit didn't even cross my mind watching that spot.. at all. Whatever.
    If the two part documentary hadn't aired recently it wouldn't have been a big deal. Logically Edge would want to be strangling this guy for attacking his wife & insulting his family. As bad as the match sounds I would rather see 36 minutes of guys in a supposed blood feud throwing each other into walls & trying to hang each other, than getting in the ring calmly, waiting for the bell & then doing collar & elbow tie-ups, arm drags etc like usually happens.
    And that's the bottom line, cause Jimbob said so.
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    i liked the match. hopefully they go super rated rko and become world champions
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