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    Reverse Diet Question?

    Hey everyone, I am a 27 year old female, 5'9 160 lbs. I am probably about 25-26% body fat. I have been working out for about 6 years now. I have a background in mainly cardio with some weight lifting but for the past 6 months I have been doing mainly strength and resistance training. 6 years ago I went on a restrictive diet including bulimia and went down in weight to 125 lbs which was not safe for my height. I gained that weight back but have not been able to lose my current weight. I did a reverse diet with a trainer and got to 2000 cals a day. I lost weight the first few weeks while increasing calories then maintained the rest of the time. I am now cutting at 1400 and have been at 1400 for about two months and have seen very little results. I am beyond discouraged, not sure why I work my butt off and eat healthy to not be losing fat and toning up. I have gotten stronger from resistance training and even added in cardio on my cut but no fat loss. Now my trainer wants to increase my calories again to 1977 since I'm not losing fat on 1400. Is this a good idea? I'm so scared to gain weight again. We've been doing this for 6 months now and I'm just tired.
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    There's some keywords and phrases here that are bothering me.

    Assuming strength training and cardio 3-5 days per week your TDEE should be in the neighborhood of 2000 calories with those stats, possibly higher depending on what you do outside of the gym.
    This leads me to believe you're not counting those "1400" calories correctly, because you would've dropped roughly 8lbs in those two months.

    "Toning up" doesn't exist. Cardio doesn't guarantee any extra fat loss.

    Given your 6 months of actual weight training experience and your body fat level, you don't have a lot of muscle to cut down to and I think your trainer knows this. You're a taller woman, forget about being a petite lean 125lbs, you'll find this height works to your advantage in the long run.

    Keep training and eating, it seems like you're trying to pull the mythical act of losing fat and building muscle at the same time which doesn't happen unless you're obese and brand new. You're technically neither of those.
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    So what do you mean that I dont have a lot of muscle to cut down to?
    So should I continue to up my calories? I dont even mind staying at 160 if I can just lean out and lose fat. Even if I'm not consistently at 1400 shouldnt I still be losing weight even if I hit 1500 some days, I'm still in a deficit.
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    Post a pic of yourself full body will offer us a better chance to see what would be the best direction to consider.

    I can't imagine you won't lose weight on 1400 calories how you been recording your calories?

    Have you been using scales to weigh your foods?

    More important then all of this have you had full treatment for your eating disorder as none of this will help if you are utilising extreme forms of eating.

    6 months is unlikely to build adequate muscle but a pic will show all.
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    Originally Posted by Jesusgirl92 View Post
    So what do you mean that I dont have a lot of muscle to cut down to?
    So should I continue to up my calories? I dont even mind staying at 160 if I can just lean out and lose fat. Even if I'm not consistently at 1400 shouldnt I still be losing weight even if I hit 1500 some days, I'm still in a deficit.
    if you’re trying to lose fat you should never up your calories. If fatloss is slow or no existent then your calories are too high on a weekly basis no matter what you perceive them to be.
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    Originally Posted by Jesusgirl92 View Post
    So what do you mean that I dont have a lot of muscle to cut down to?
    So should I continue to up my calories? I dont even mind staying at 160 if I can just lean out and lose fat. Even if I'm not consistently at 1400 shouldnt I still be losing weight even if I hit 1500 some days, I'm still in a deficit.
    You can't lose fat and stay the same weight without gaining muscle, and you're not going to do both at the same time since you lose fat at a much faster rate than you grow muscle.

    Yes in a weekly deficit your weight would be dropping, which tells me you're not counting calories properly.

    Pick either fat loss or muscle gain, and tell your trainer.
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