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    I broke my back today (spinal), question about lever squat machine

    Hello forum,
    I'm from Belgium so sorry about bad english.
    I broke my back today, spinal, okay joking. Just some bulging issue. Had it before. Was healed after 3-6 days before..
    I'm training lower body 3 times a week. But today some fit girls where squatting next to me and me as a moron upped the weight to inpress and I felt some disk problems.

    I do not like barbell squats with heavy weight because its a risk for my back with, However I like to do squats.
    Can I use the lever squat machine to go all out without risk of my back?
    And do normal barbell squats with lighter wieght but perfect form?
    Is lever squat machine a good equipment to get mass?
    That machine is always free at my gym.
    We got 3 squatracks but always filled with powerlifting wannabe's and fitgirls takin instagram selfies.


    Stats:
    height: 1m81
    Weight: 82kg
    Bodyfat: 12
    Squat: 80kg with good form (scared to go higher)
    Age: 28

    My routine is fierce 5 upper / lower. However I do Lower A 3 times per week. Because I like good looking legs.


    Upper A

    The Incline Bench 3×8
    The Bench 3×5
    The Lat Pulldowns 3×8 (all grips applicable)
    Curls 3×10/Reverse Flies 3×12 Superset
    Bent Over Rows 3×8


    The Lower A

    Weighted Back Extensions 3×8
    Squats 3×5
    The Leg Press 3×10
    The Ab work 3×15/Calf raises 3×12 Superset
    Leg Curls 3×10


    The upper B

    OHP 3×5
    Flies 3×10
    Pull-ups 3×8
    Pendlay Rows 3×8
    Face Pulls 3×12/Tricep press downs 3×10 Superset


    The Lower B

    Front Squat 3×5
    The Romanian Deadlift 3×8
    Leg Extensions 3×10 and Leg Curls 3×10
    Ab work 3×15 and the Calf Raises 3×12 Superset



    Sorry for bad english, hope to get some good answers.
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    Originally Posted by FluffyPussy View Post

    Is lever squat machine a good equipment to get mass?
    Yes, lever squat machines are perfectly fine for hypertrophy training.

    However, just like all other equipment, if you try and lift too much weight you can be injured. No machine can change that.
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    Originally Posted by daniel327 View Post
    Yes, lever squat machines are perfectly fine for hypertrophy training.

    However, just like all other equipment, if you try and lift too much weight you can be injured. No machine can change that.
    Okay thanks, gonna use leverage more often. I think 3x barbell squat close till failure a bit overkill for my lower back.
    Luckaly not full blow herniated.
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    Weird sense of humor. A back injury takes a good 6 weeks to heal, it can feel fine but will be weak for many months as the collagen fibers need to knit together and align in the correct direction which can only happen through progressive loading. So take it easy. If you want to keep squatting, it would be sensible to do leg extensions first to tire the quads and allow you to squat with less weight. Forget the ego or you will have many more injuries.
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    Originally Posted by BenMcLeodNZ View Post
    Weird sense of humor. A back injury takes a good 6 weeks to heal, it can feel fine but will be weak for many months as the collagen fibers need to knit together and align in the correct direction which can only happen through progressive loading. So take it easy. If you want to keep squatting, it would be sensible to do leg extensions first to tire the quads and allow you to squat with less weight. Forget the ego or you will have many more injuries.
    Completely depends on what is injured. There's absolutely no rule of "takes x weeks to heal," especially if nothing may actually be wrong. There's a number of good Alan Thrall/Austin Baraki YouTubes on pain and back tweaks that are worth a watch.

    I agree with forgetting the ego, but 100% of my lifting-related back tweaks have been with submaximal weights. Usually from getting lazy with my bracing, sometimes for no reason I can figure out.

    And Oppy, build a home gym and stop worrying about impressing women who don't care how much you squat anyway.
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    i hurt my back ten years ago on a Bodymasters Lever Squat. It's never completely healed and i live every day with some form of discomfort in lower back to varying degrees. You won't know if they're safe until you try but i'll share with you the mistake i made. I took my depth hamstring to calves and i don't believe that particular machine was designed for that. In doing so, i rounded my spine at the bottom and when i did i immediately burning and something like an electric shock and as if something shot out of my lower back. In short, don't round your spine if you can help while doing these and do not round your spine in order to get a lower depth in these machines. you're asking for trouble.
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    I'd go get checked out by a doctor before anything, and focus on recovery for now. Continuing to train an injury will just make it worse. Safer alternative exercises to use would be hack squats or belt squats though.
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    I agree w/what the Shadowman said above. Hacks will not have rounding of the spine taking place during your descent and although it will compress your spine, you can limit this compression by using light weights and higher reps. I had a great workout by doing walking lunges and going immediately into deep hack squats (supersets). really fried my quads. other times i did straight sets of walking lunge and then my next exercise would be Hacks. The Belt Squat is also nice as it's easy on the lower back. However, i've found that Belt Squats don't do much for my quads.
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