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    Sony's Cost of PS5 Suppsoedly $450ish

    Don't understand why this is a big deal. Everyone knew the console would probably be about $500. Plus, hasn't Sony actually sold previous Gens at a loss and more than made up for it later down the road in accessories and games profits? I don't feel like anyone who isn't lying to themselves was ever expecting this thing to be sub $500 given the rumored hardware.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sony...-5-down-2020-2

    https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-pl...to-manufacture

    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...to-usd450-each

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    That seems about right. PS4 is 7 years old now and still going, theyre probably expecting ps5 to have the same life. If its too underpowered it wont last long enough.

    Theyre saying it has 2nd gen ryzen 8 core (basically an underclocked 3700), an SSD, 4k blueray, next gen as of yet unreleased amd gpu.

    3700 retails for $300
    a 1tb ssd retails for $100
    4k blue ray $100

    Thats not even ram and GPU. Yeah theyre not paying retail but still. $450-500 to build it seems about right.
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    They sold PS4 at a profit at launch.
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    I don't see the big deal, either.

    Given the way things are headed with PC components, $500 might get you an RTX 3070 3060 and a free copy of Raid: Shadow Legends.

    When you consider everything you're getting in an all-in-one package with what is supposed to be in the upcoming consoles, they have a better shot at being the competition to Nvidia that AMD couldn't be directly.

    A less direct cost comparison is when we also consider how willing people are to shell out comparable figures for smartphones that will last them ~2 years to take mediocre photos and use social media. Why, the Motorola Razr bendy phone is $1,500, and it is receiving low marks almost across the board for especially outdated specs in a field that lives and breaths on being the best.

    Although the new bending phones and their massive price tags might be chalked up to the new technology, these new consoles are also supposed to be equipped with their own cutting edge (as far as consoles go) technology in the form of ray tracing. Phones had pretty much hit their limit a while ago on what they needed to fulfill their purpose for the majority of people, whereas at least you can say that the PS5 and Xboogaloo will be definitive, generational leaps in what their hardware advances can accomplish. And they will assuredly outlast smartphones in terms of an investment in luxury tech.

    As a final point on cost, maybe $500 wouldn't seem so expensive if this modern day generation of dipsh*t gamers didn't happily drop $5, $10, or (somehow) even more on Fortnite skins and retarded dances, or throw money at companies like EA and Activision that piss out unfinished, microtransaction-riddled drivel each and every quarter.
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    PlayStation 4 was released in 2013 @ $399.

    Converting that to 2020 dollars....a playstation 4 would cost....wait for it...

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    ugh that's like a billion canadian dollars
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    They should price the base model at $500,


    ensure the console is powerful and capable for the next 6 years. Problem with the ps4/xbox one was the strategy was keep costs down as much as possible and it backfired. Those consoles were extremely underpowered at launch and we got stuck with that for whats going to be 7 years.

    I know the PS3 launch price at $500 backfired on them, but that was 2006 and very understandable why it backfired. $500 in 2006 was a lot to ask for.

    things just cost more now a days. We got Apple and Samsung robbing us at $1000 base rate for their phones now.. and $500 for a console that can be as powerful as a upper mid tier pc (as far as gaming goes) is totally worth it.
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    When you consider everything you're getting in an all-in-one package with what is supposed to be in the upcoming consoles, they have a better shot at being the competition to Nvidia that AMD couldn't be directly.
    you wot m8, ps5 and xbox using AMD to power their consoles
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    I wouldn't mind paying 450-500 price. I mean people these days pay 1k$ for their phones .
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    $500 is very reasonable for an adult gamer. If you play it for 5 years, that's $100 per year. People waste $100 on random bullshiet all the time.

    For parents with kids, that could be expensive, but for kids there's Switch.
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    Originally Posted by Astyanax View Post
    $500 is very reasonable for an adult gamer. If you play it for 5 years, that's $100 per year. People waste $100 on random bullshiet all the time.

    For parents with kids, that could be expensive, but for kids there's Switch.
    plus the subscription to play online, and playstation plus.....probabaly closer to $1000 over 5 years
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    I'm with the folks that state they hope the newer console includes high end components that compete with the expensive gaming PCs.

    I know they're using AMD components, which I'm fine with since it'll help with costs, but I personally only understand Intel / NVIDIA naming conventions, so will use that for examples. I'd rather see them use an i7 variant over either an i9 or i5 variant. I'd rather see them use a GTX/RTX ##70 over a ##80 or ##60 variant.

    This would put the consoles closer into the $1k space. I hope they preemptively announce the costs and release dates of their "Pro" models before the launch of their base products.

    The better the hardware the more "future proof" the systems. Although pretty much no matter what, unless they release revamped variations of their consoles on a bi-yearly basis or something, we will pretty much always look back at their consoles as outdated compared to PC offerings. Unless the consoles release with modular components, and Sony/Microsoft sell upgraded variations of their modular components as time goes on (neat idea that would get a large consumer base and yield high long term profits).

    If I was a product solution specialist / designer or something for Sony/Microsoft I would push for consoles that have modular components, and for the components (CPU and GPU especially) to stem from architecture that hardware manufacturers (AMD/NVIDIA/Intel) are looking at for their NEXT generation components that aren't even released yet.
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    I am only upset it's not more expensive. Hope there is a "Pro" version that is higher end and has been kept a secret.
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    ugh that's like a billion canadian dollars
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    They sold PS4 at a profit at launch.
    No they didn't, they lost something like $40 per unit initially

    Sony went after market dominance since it makes its money on games/ps network etc.
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    I am only upset it's not more expensive. Hope there is a "Pro" version that is higher end and has been kept a secret.
    I think in the era $1000 cell phones they could develop a system that would rival top cards at release. A lot of people would buy tf outta that. Give me a $1000 console IDGAF.
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    you wot m8, ps5 and xbox using AMD to power their consoles
    That's why I said directly, as in with their own dedicated GPUs rather than offering a rivaling option through the consoles.

    AMD's discrete graphic cards just can't compete with Nvidia blow for blow, and it's hard to retain any hope for some hail mary miracle release that can, so Nvidia is calling the shots as far as PC GPUs go.

    But AMD is powering both the Xbox and the PS5 with APUs capable of also running ray tracing, so while most people aren't rushing out to buy the latest AMD space heater for their PCs, the upcoming consoles are extremely tempting for $500 as a comparatively more budget-friendly "f*ck it" investment.

    I don't think anyone could blame people for balking at whatever ludicrous price Nivida drops this summer and instead decide to switch to consoles for all of the upcoming games. Unlike the current generation of consoles, the next one will be a threat to Nvidia's market, especially at the rate they keep pricing things. Except Nvidia is so cocky and there are still enough reliable morons out there who will pay whatever Jensen says that I'm not sure that competition of any kind will make much of a difference in their pricing.
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    $450? I don't think that's bad at all. If you are actually going to use it consistently, that's a pretty affordable form of entertainment.
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    People are just retarded


    Even if it was $550 it shouldn't be a big deal at all. Take out $50 per paycheck and you'll have more than enough when the time comes

    If it releases in November you have 8 whole months. Matter of fact just preorder the damn thing at game stop. Go in every other month and it'll be paid for. People are just retarded



    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    I think in the era $1000 cell phones they could develop a system that would rival top cards at release. A lot of people would buy tf outta that. Give me a $1000 console IDGAF.
    I'd do this. Serious. But make it more like $700, as $1000 will most likely be an ultra PC build. Would be even better if Devs catered to the $700 console specs when building games

    That said, it would work. A lot of console players are casuals
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    I don't do consoles, but they should do a staggered system. Release the system at $500, and allow the system to be upgraded, an extra $200 would allow for something like a PS5 Pro, and an extra $400 would get you a PS5 Ultra. They could also sell the upgrade parts at a higher price for people who want the cheapest version at launch. This would also force developers to actually optimize their games.
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    Doesnt matter the price, wont buy until theres a game I need to buy it for.
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    advertising the price of a gaming system which lasts 5-7 years next to a $1000 cell phone that lasts 1-2 years seems like a good marketing strategy furreal
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    Originally Posted by Visel View Post
    I'm with the folks that state they hope the newer console includes high end components that compete with the expensive gaming PCs.

    I know they're using AMD components, which I'm fine with since it'll help with costs, but I personally only understand Intel / NVIDIA naming conventions, so will use that for examples. I'd rather see them use an i7 variant over either an i9 or i5 variant. I'd rather see them use a GTX/RTX ##70 over a ##80 or ##60 variant.

    This would put the consoles closer into the $1k space. I hope they preemptively announce the costs and release dates of their "Pro" models before the launch of their base products.

    The better the hardware the more "future proof" the systems. Although pretty much no matter what, unless they release revamped variations of their consoles on a bi-yearly basis or something, we will pretty much always look back at their consoles as outdated compared to PC offerings. Unless the consoles release with modular components, and Sony/Microsoft sell upgraded variations of their modular components as time goes on (neat idea that would get a large consumer base and yield high long term profits).

    If I was a product solution specialist / designer or something for Sony/Microsoft I would push for consoles that have modular components, and for the components (CPU and GPU especially) to stem from architecture that hardware manufacturers (AMD/NVIDIA/Intel) are looking at for their NEXT generation components that aren't even released yet.

    The CPU they are using is an 8 core with SMT, its a ryzen 2nd gen so basically a 3700 but probably lower clocked due to the cooling requirements of a full speed version. The current intel equivalents are the i7 9900(feature wise) and i7 9700 (cost and performance wise). This is a BIG step up from the CPU of last gen which was slow when it released in 2013 and was built basically for tablets and low power laptops.

    For the GPU they are using AMD Navi which hasnt been released yet.
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    Originally Posted by Visel View Post
    I'm with the folks that state they hope the newer console includes high end components that compete with the expensive gaming PCs.

    I know they're using AMD components, which I'm fine with since it'll help with costs, but I personally only understand Intel / NVIDIA naming conventions, so will use that for examples. I'd rather see them use an i7 variant over either an i9 or i5 variant. I'd rather see them use a GTX/RTX ##70 over a ##80 or ##60 variant.

    This would put the consoles closer into the $1k space. I hope they preemptively announce the costs and release dates of their "Pro" models before the launch of their base products.

    The better the hardware the more "future proof" the systems. Although pretty much no matter what, unless they release revamped variations of their consoles on a bi-yearly basis or something, we will pretty much always look back at their consoles as outdated compared to PC offerings. Unless the consoles release with modular components, and Sony/Microsoft sell upgraded variations of their modular components as time goes on (neat idea that would get a large consumer base and yield high long term profits).

    If I was a product solution specialist / designer or something for Sony/Microsoft I would push for consoles that have modular components, and for the components (CPU and GPU especially) to stem from architecture that hardware manufacturers (AMD/NVIDIA/Intel) are looking at for their NEXT generation components that aren't even released yet.
    You do realised AMD CPU's chit all over intel these days? why pay $100 more for same performance.
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    Originally Posted by Smunks View Post
    You do realised AMD CPU's chit all over intel these days? why pay $100 more for same performance.
    People parrot that all the time but its not entirely true. Intel still has the best IPC and best performance in games. Ryzen 3 is also picky on ram, needs fast ram to perform the best and the 570 chipset motherboards are expensive as chit.

    With the last holiday deals, the i7 9700 was still a better buy IMO for gaming at $300 during the sales vs the comparable AMD equivalent. It would have better performance and you dont need as expensive motherboard and ram. All the counter arguments I seen were just people saying "but but what IF they want to do video editing or live stream their games", not everyone is into that.

    I wont upgrade until later in the year, intels next series is likely to have HT across the board, negating AMD's biggest advantage for the last few years.
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