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    Rice losing calories when cooked?

    The title may be stupid (very stupid in fact) but I find myself in a weird situation.

    I recently hired a personal trainer to get me started on my bulking training, both at the gym and in the kitchen. While I have no problems with the gym routine (at the moment) The diet he sent me includes the following (ingredients here not separated into meals/diches):

    300g of chicken
    20g of olive oil
    450g of rice
    50g of lettuce/salad
    300g of potato
    2 pieces of fruit (depending on season)
    50g of turkey
    100g of ham
    30g of nuts/almonds
    150g of bread
    50g of avocado

    by my estimations, the whole diet rounds up to 3700 calories he says its closer to 2800. I went through the whole list with him and when we got to the rice is where we found the big difference in calculations.

    Note, I asked him several times if he meant 450g of rice after cooking and he insisted that it was before cooking, and that when cooked rice loses a lot of its calories, saying it went into the water which then evaporated (more or less, he said he didnt know the exact science)

    I googled it and couldn't find anything of the sort. Is he very mistaken/misunderstood or is there something I'm missing?
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    Originally Posted by Kxer0 View Post
    The title may be stupid (very stupid in fact) but I find myself in a weird situation.

    I recently hired a personal trainer to get me started on my bulking training, both at the gym and in the kitchen. While I have no problems with the gym routine (at the moment) The diet he sent me includes the following (ingredients here not separated into meals/diches):

    300g of chicken
    20g of olive oil
    450g of rice
    50g of lettuce/salad
    300g of potato
    2 pieces of fruit (depending on season)
    50g of turkey
    100g of ham
    30g of nuts/almonds
    150g of bread
    50g of avocado

    by my estimations, the whole diet rounds up to 3700 calories he says its closer to 2800. I went through the whole list with him and when we got to the rice is where we found the big difference in calculations.

    Note, I asked him several times if he meant 450g of rice after cooking and he insisted that it was before cooking, and that when cooked rice loses a lot of its calories, saying it went into the water which then evaporated (more or less, he said he didnt know the exact science)

    I googled it and couldn't find anything of the sort. Is he very mistaken/misunderstood or is there something I'm missing?
    450 g of uncooked rice is a huge amount, I'm sure he's mistaken and talking about cooked rice here
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    Originally Posted by 905letters View Post
    450 g of uncooked rice is a huge amount, I'm sure he's mistaken and talking about cooked rice here
    If I calculate kcal using cooked rice (or an estimate) it does match with hat he's saying but I insisted several times on if he meant cooked or uncooked, he insisted on uncooked weight, should I just assume he misunderstood and go for 450g cooked?
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    Originally Posted by Kxer0 View Post
    If I calculate kcal using cooked rice (or an estimate) it does match with hat he's saying but I insisted several times on if he meant cooked or uncooked, he insisted on uncooked weight, should I just assume he misunderstood and go for 450g cooked?
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    not sure if this helps, but i always use a 1 dl measuring cup for uncooked rice, which is around 250-300 calories per cup (a bit inaccurate, i know...)
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    Some days I eat 250 grams of COOKED rice, which is quite a large amount.

    I could concievably eat 500 grams of cooked rice if I had it for lunch and dinner.

    But 450 grams of UNCOOKED rice would come to over a kilo of rice once cooked!
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    The most rice I ever really eat is 200g uncooked, and that's a borderline unpleasant amount. I literally cannot imagine eating 450g uncooked, that would be just such an absurd amount
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    I feel like no one answered the question he or she was asking. Go on google and type in your question. You'll probably find scientifical evidence on some sites.
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    Originally Posted by Kxer0 View Post
    when we got to the rice is where we found the big difference in calculations.

    Note, I asked him several times if he meant 450g of rice after cooking and he insisted that it was before cooking, and that when cooked rice loses a lot of its calories, saying it went into the water which then evaporated (more or less, he said he didnt know the exact science)

    I googled it and couldn't find anything of the sort. Is he very mistaken/misunderstood or is there something I'm missing?
    You are being trained by a chimp - I suggest getting a new trainer who understands what they are talking about. Calories do not just evaporate in water when food is cooked - if that were the case there would be a whole low calorie food industry based around just cooking food.

    If you compare the same weight of uncooked rice with cooked rice you will find that there are more calories in the uncooked rice. When rice is cooked it absorbs water which obviously has "mass" i.e. it weighs something. Water however does not contain calories therefore the same weight of cooked rice contains less calories because about half of its weight is now made up of water.

    Hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by NearlyBigAngus View Post
    You are being trained by a chimp - I suggest getting a new trainer who understands what they are talking about. Calories do not just evaporate in water when food is cooked - if that were the case there would be a whole low calorie food industry based around just cooking food.

    If you compare the same weight of uncooked rice with cooked rice you will find that there are more calories in the uncooked rice. When rice is cooked it absorbs water which obviously has "mass" i.e. it weighs something. Water however does not contain calories therefore the same weight of cooked rice contains less calories because about half of its weight is now made up of water.

    Hope this helps.
    If you count each individual uncooked rice, cook it, and count each individual cooked rice, if you have the same amount of pieces of rice, you have the same calories, assuming none of the calories are lost in the cooking process, and this ^ above makes absolute sense, otherwise, people would just eat rice all day and lose fat. The calories is probably in the rice itself, the part that's solid. Cooking just makes it softer
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