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    Question Can anyone recommend a good cheap VPN for downloading.. ahem.. files

    I've been subscribed to CyberGhostVPN for years but for whatever reason, it will never connect to any of their servers and if it does it doesn't work. I've troubleshot the living sh!t out of it and I'm pretty sure its on their end. I think they oversold subscriptions and their servers are just overloaded.

    So, I'm looking for a new one that is hopefully decently priced and allows for downloading certain "files".

    Reps for good suggestions and feel free to post affiliate links or share links if you like the VPN you use.

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    I use Windscribe, easy and works well for my needs (mostly downloads); goes on sale often enough too.

    If you wait for a sale you can get a few years for ~$20-30 but even regular price is not bad (free option too).

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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    I use Windscribe, easy and works well for my needs (mostly downloads); goes on sale often enough too.

    If you wait for a sale you can get a few years for ~$20-30 but even regular price is not bad (free option too).

    https://windscribe.com/
    Looks pretty good and has a lot of nice security features. And they allow P2P connections? I noticed it said "unlock all countries". Do you have to pay for certain upgrades or does everything come in a single package?
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    Looks pretty good and has a lot of nice security features. And they allow P2P connections? I noticed it said "unlock all countries". Do you have to pay for certain upgrades or does everything come in a single package?
    I bought a 3 year plan on sale, it has all features; the full paid tiers they have come with all features, it's only if you do a custom plan that is only comes with specific features only (ones you choose).

    I like the Chrome extension that allows me to turn it on/off fast, and the desktop/taskbar launcher allows for more detailed options and settings.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    I bought a 3 year plan on sale, it has all features; the full paid tiers they have come with all features, it's only if you do a custom plan that is only comes with specific features only (ones you choose).

    I like the Chrome extension that allows me to turn it on/off fast, and the desktop/taskbar launcher allows for more detailed options and settings.
    How often do they have sales and how do you find out about them? I don't suppose you have any coupon codes for it?
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    How often do they have sales and how do you find out about them? I don't suppose you have any coupon codes for it?
    I used Slickdeals, usually every month or so, and it stacks with your current sub, so if you already have a one onth sub you can use a coupon code for a year or whatever and it adds to your account.

    2 past deals (expired)

    https://slickdeals.net/f/13730051-wi...src=SiteSearch

    https://slickdeals.net/e/13645813-3-...ibe-vpn-pro-36

    Not sure if these are current or not but worth a shot.

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    Is there some way to get notified when Slickdeals has a deal you're looking for or do you just constantly have to check the site?
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    Is there some way to get notified when Slickdeals has a deal you're looking for or do you just constantly have to check the site?
    Top by the search bar 'Deal Alerts' you can set itto be specific or generic. 'Widscribe' or just 'VPN' if you are just looking for anything. Other filters too; I use it to finds all kinds of things I need, love the site.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Top by the search bar 'Deal Alerts' you can set itto be specific or generic. 'Widscribe' or just 'VPN' if you are just looking for anything. Other filters too; I use it to finds all kinds of things I need, love the site.
    Very cool, thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate it.

    I looked up Windscribe on Torrentfreak, and here is what they have to say about it:

    Windscribe
    1. We do not store a historical record of VPN sessions, source IPs, or sites you visited. We store a byte count of data used in the last 30 days and number of parallel connections.

    2. Windscribe Limited, Ontario (Canada) Corporation.

    3. We use bespoke tools specifically made for the purpose. We use the bandwidth usage in 30 days + number of parallel connections to weed out extreme cases of abuse (100+ connections and hundreds of terabytes used).

    4. No, we self host everything. This includes email, analytics, support desk, and live chat. The only 3rd party services we use are Stripe, PayPal and CoinPayments.

    5. We notify the sender that the IP address is a VPN node and is shared by hundreds of people at any given moment, so there is no way to trace the activity to any single user.

    6. We have received multiple subpoenas and court orders requesting subscriber information. Our response was identical to what we send in case of a DMCA related request. We were never ordered to log users (although there were requests), but since we’re in Canada which has no mandatory data retention directives that apply to VPNs, we wouldn’t need to comply.

    7. BitTorrent is allowed in all locations as we don’t interfere with the traffic. We request that users don’t use it in India, Russia and South Africa due to more stringent providers in those regions, but it’s more of a guideline than a rule.

    8. Credit cards (Stripe), PayPal, all major cryptocurrencies and various gift cards. As we don’t store any logs of this type, there is nothing to link the payments to.

    9. We support OpenVPN and IKEv2. Both are equally secure as we use the strongest encryption possible (GCM-AES-256) with both. We recommend trying IKEv2 first, as it’s faster almost in all cases. If it’s blocked on your network, then you can use OpenVPN which operates on common ports and is a lot harder to block, especially when using Stealth (Stunnel) mode. Our application tries all the protocols automatically and uses the best one for your specific network.

    10. The Windscribe Firewall is built into our Windows and Mac applications. It blocks all connectivity outside of the tunnel to ensure that there is zero chance of any kind of leak, including but not limited to DNS leaks, IPv6 leaks, WebRTC leaks, etc. This is superior to a “kill switch”, which is a reactive measure, so there is no guarantee that nothing will leak.

    11. All our servers are bare metal machines which are leased from various reputable hosting providers worldwide. We request to remove all anti-DDoS mitigations when possible to help reduce the chance of network monitoring. Each VPN node we operate has a recursive DNS server running on it, which is only accessible over the tunnel.

    12. We have servers in 60 countries and over 110 cities. All our servers are physically where they are claimed to be, as we don’t have any fake/virtual locations.
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    Only semi-related, to anyone who thinks a VPN can mask all activity... nope. Having seen how far Uncle Sam can dig into your net activity, nothing can stop the Gov from seeing anything and everything you ever did. Not likely OP needs to worry, but if you really draw attention to yourself, no VPN or anything can stop you from being found.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Only semi-related, to anyone who thinks a VPN can mask all activity... nope. Having seen how far Uncle Sam can dig into your net activity, nothing can stop the Gov from seeing anything and everything you ever did. Not likely OP needs to worry, but if you really draw attention to yourself, no VPN or anything can stop you from being found.
    Well, that's true to an extent. If you really want full privacy, you can use Tails OS https://tails.boum.org/

    It's an OS that connects only to TOR and completely masks your privacy. It's what Edward Snowden used when he was leaking his info to journalists.

    I also recommend apps like Signal for phone/text and I use an app called WickrMe for text chat. It's fully encrypted, you can't take screen shots, and the messages are automatically wiped after a certain number of hours.
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    Well, that's true to an extent. If you really want full privacy, you can use Tails OS https://tails.boum.org/

    It's an OS that connects only to TOR and completely masks your privacy. It's what Edward Snowden used when he was leaking his info to journalists.

    I also recommend apps like Signal for phone/text and I use an app called WickrMe for text chat. It's fully encrypted, you can't take screen shots, and the messages are automatically wiped after a certain number of hours.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Yep, luckily most of us are not interesting enough for any agency to care about the music or movies we get.
    If you're actually curious to find out if any federal agencies have a file on you, you can visit http://www.getmyfbifile.com/ and fill out the forms and mail them in. It'll let you query the FBI FOIA files for any info on you, along with these agencies:

    Defense Security Service (DSS)
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    U.S. Marshals Service (USMS)
    Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
    Secret Service (USSS)
    Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID)

    I did it myself and nobody had anything on me. But there are other agencies like USPS, for example, if you've ever had anything questionable sent to you. But, they, like the NSA, basically logs everything sent to you.

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    I use Windscribe, easy and works well for my needs (mostly downloads); goes on sale often enough too.

    If you wait for a sale you can get a few years for ~$20-30 but even regular price is not bad (free option too).

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    This is the one I use as well with great, ahem, results.

    One nice feature they've implemented recently was R.O.B.E.R.T. - essentially a built-in way to block websites at a DNS level. It's a nice option to have available rather than go full Pi-Hole, which is something I lost patience with and really did not want to micromanage compared to a simple whitelist/blacklist.

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    Never used a vpn. Is it mostly for those wanting to download movies/music? Is there any reason to get a vpn just for normal internet use? Well normal internet use + misc.
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    Never used a vpn. Is it mostly for those wanting to download movies/music? Is there any reason to get a vpn just for normal internet use? Well normal internet use + misc.
    It is good for keeping your private info private. You can't be snooped on because you're on an encrypted connection and so if you go to a public wifi for example, if you're not on a VPN anyone can read your internet connection and what you're doing.
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    Never used a vpn. Is it mostly for those wanting to download movies/music? Is there any reason to get a vpn just for normal internet use? Well normal internet use + misc.
    I like it for allowing me to bypass region locked sites usually.
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    Honestly, Mullvad is one of the best.

    About $5 a month, can pay a month at a time if you only need it occasionally.

    They have website checks to ensure you don't have any security leaks (browser, file getting P2P program, etc.).

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    I use NordVPN, works great for what I want, they have app for Android and IOS. I don't do anything extreme, just basically keeping my ISP off my back (basically what you need sounds like), nobody gonna kick down my doors for anything. Haven't heard a peep from my ISP since i started using it a couple of years ago. Having their app on my tablet is great for when I'm on public wifi.

    I got a deal on slickdeals too, I can't remember how much it was, but it was cheap for quite a few years, it may be expiring soon now that I think of it. IDK if they still do their smoking deals anymore, they have gotten pretty big, I see their commercials on TV fairly often now.
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    NordVPN currently has 70% off if you buy 3 years in full. Total is $125.64 ($3.49/mo). Comes with 30 day money back gaurantee
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    Originally Posted by bov188 View Post
    NordVPN currently has 70% off if you buy 3 years in full. Total is $125.64 ($3.49/mo). Comes with 30 day money back gaurantee
    I'll check into it, if I can add 3 more years I'll do it.
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    Does NordVPN allow for P2P filesharing?

    From torrentfreak:

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    1. We do not keep any logs nor timestamps that could allow our customers to be identified.

    Note (Oktober 2019): NordVPN has its servers breached in 2017 which caused controversy. No logs were available, but a full account of what happened in available here.

    2. Tefincom S.A., operated under the jurisdiction of Panama.

    3. We are only able to see the server load, which helps us optimize our service and provide the best possible Internet speed to our users. We also have developed and implemented an automated tool that limits the maximum number of concurrent connections to six. Apart from that, we do not use any other tools.

    4. NordVPN uses third-party data processors for emailing services and to collect basic website and app analytics. We use Iterable for correspondence, Zendesk to provide customer support, Google Analytics to monitor website and app data, as well as Crashlytics, Firebase Analytics and Appsflyer to monitor application data.

    All third-party services we use are bound by a contract with us to never use the information of our users for their own purposes and not to disclose the information to any third parties unrelated to the service.

    5. We operate under Panama’s jurisdiction, where DMCA and similar orders have no legal bearing. Therefore, they do not apply to us.

    6. If the order or subpoena is issued by a Panamanian court, we would have to provide the information if we had any. However, our zero-log policy means that we do not store any information about our users’ online activity – only their email address and basic payment info. So far, we haven’t had any such cases.

    7. We do not restrict any BitTorrent or other file-sharing applications on most of our servers. We have optimized a number of our servers specifically for file-sharing. At the moment, we do not offer port forwarding and block outgoing ports SMTP25 and NetBIOS.

    8. Our customers are able to pay via all major credit cards, regionally localized payment solutions (e.g. AliPay, Yandex, etc.) and cryptocurrencies. Our payment processing partners collect basic billing information for payment processing and refund requests, but it cannot be related to any Internet activity of a particular customer. Bitcoin is the most anonymous option, as it does not link the payment details to the user identity or other personal information.

    9. For OpenVPN connection, we use the AES 256 GCM algorithm. For IKEv2/IPSec, the ciphers used to generate Phase1 keys are AES-256-GCM for encryption, coupled with SHA2-384 to ensure integrity, combined with PFS (Perfect Forward Secrecy) using 3072-bit Diffie Hellmann keys.

    10. Yes, we provide both an automatic kill switch and a feature for DNS leak protection. Dual Stack IPv4/IPv6 functionality is not yet supported with our service; however, all NordVPN apps offer an integrated IPv6 Leak Protection.

    11. We use a hybrid model, whereby we own some of our servers ourselves but also partner with premium data centers with strong security practices.

    Due to our special server configuration, no one is able to collect or retain any data, ensuring compliance with our no-logs policy. We also have specific requirements for network providers to ensure the highest service quality for our customers. We do have our own DNS servers, and all DNS requests go through those. Also, our customers can use any DNS server they like.

    12. All of our servers are physically located in the stated countries. We do not offer virtual locations. At the moment, NordVPN provides more than 5,000 servers in 61 countries, and the full location list can be found here.
    They also have a dedicated review of their service.
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    ROFL, wtf?
    None of you know you can get Fastestvpn for $18-$20 for 10 devices for life?
    Works perfectly fine for streaming services and torrents.
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    Does NordVPN allow for P2P filesharing?
    as someone who has dl'd nearly two terabytes in the last year, i can confirm.


    Originally Posted by bov188 View Post
    NordVPN currently has 70% off if you buy 3 years in full. Total is $125.64 ($3.49/mo). Comes with 30 day money back gaurantee
    to be clear, they always have that deal, it says its a limited time offer but its been there for years.
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    Does NordVPN allow for P2P filesharing?
    oh yea lol, I've used it quite a bit. I use qbittorent and it works very good with NordVPN. I saw the deal for FasterVPN on slick deals, have no idea how reliable they are, I had never heard of them until today. For 20 bucks, might be worth a shot.

    Originally Posted by stfudonny View Post
    to be clear, they always have that deal, it says its a limited time offer but its been there for years.
    yea, that is probably the deal I got, pretty sure I'm closing in on 3 years, I think it was a bit less then, but 125 for 3 years is worth it IMO.

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    I want to thank all you guys for the suggestions. I really like the look of Windscribe because of all the security features they have and the price seems pretty decent.

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    ROFL, wtf?
    None of you know you can get Fastestvpn for $18-$20 for 10 devices for life?
    Works perfectly fine for streaming services and torrents.
    Hey, that's why I'm asking!

    Here's the info from TF on it:

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    1. No, FastestVPN does not record any logs. Your internet activity such as your browser history, traffic destinations, DNS queries, downloads and uploads, and the websites you visit all stay with you.

    2. FastestVPN is incorporated under the name Fast Technology Limited. It operates out of the Cayman Islands and under its jurisdiction.

    3. We use an in-house developed tool to limit the maximum number of connections to 10 devices. It is used for this purpose and this only.

    4. We use Google Analytics and Hotjar to improve our service and make our website more user-friendly. We also use a live-chat tool called Tawk.to for the purpose of providing 24/7 support to customers.

    5. Because we operate under the jurisdiction of Cayman Islands, the DMCA has no authority or influence on us. Therefore, we are not required to comply with such notices.

    6. Although such an event has not occurred, we may comply in the event a Cayman Islands Court orders us to provide information on a user’s activity. But because we do not log any activity, the information we provide cannot help identify any of our customers.

    7. Our servers are optimized for P2P and allow BitTorrent and other file-sharing traffic. We suggest users to connect to our European servers for the best speed.

    8. We provide our customers with the option to pay with Credit Card, eWallets (PayPal, Apple Pay, Visa Checkout, MasterPass etc), AliPlay, and other payment methods such as Skrill, Webmoney etc. It is handled by the payment processor which requires only basic billing information for payment processing and refund requests. The details can’t be linked to any particular customer.

    9. We recommend the use of the OpenVPN and IKEv2 protocols for better security. We use multiple security protocols coupled with AES 256-bit encryption.

    10. We do provide Kill Switch and DNS leak protection features.

    11. We rely on both owned and outsourced servers. We maintain exclusive rights to our servers that are physically located across various countries worldwide. We use our own DNS servers.

    12. All of our servers are physically located in various countries worldwide. We currently have servers in 23 countries. You can check the full list of locations here.
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