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    Feeling Weak on Cut

    28 years old, 6'1, 210lbs, 20% bodyfat estimated. Cutting on 270g protein 140g carb 65g fat (2225 total).

    I've cut volume by 25% but kept the weight on the bar the same. Recovery doesn't seem to be affected, my muscles aren't sore at all before each workout. However, my workouts suck now, I've only lost 0.5 to 1 rep on a 5 rep max but I feel extremely drained and weak during each set.

    I already know this is to be expected on a cut and I already know the culprit (low carbs) and I already know the solution (gradually adjust carbs up). I'm posting because less time experimenting = more time making progress, other posters have been through this before and might have ideas on the starting point for where to adjust carbs.

    Another reason for posting is that after a certain point of increasing carbs/calories, it stops being a cut and I'll just be spinning my wheels. The answer could also be to accept a certain amount of strength loss and I want to hear opinions on how much loss still means the cut is going well.
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    Swap out some protein for carbs brah

    You don't need that much Pro and you say you are weak from CHO being lower

    Also, how much are you losing on 2225?

    Seems low for your stats, that's what I cut on and I'm old and short
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    Originally Posted by boo99 View Post
    Swap out some protein for carbs brah

    You don't need that much Pro and you say you are weak from CHO being lower

    Also, how much are you losing on 2225?

    Seems low for your stats, that's what I cut on and I'm old and short
    All of this ^^^

    Plus - how long have you been cutting? A small dip in strength over the long haul (months) is normal but if you just started recently then no you shouldn't be losing strength so quickly.

    A good rule of thumb is to slow your cut so you're not losing more than 1% of your body weight each week, this will help ensure muscle retention.

    But I generally go through the same thing on my cut: I keep the weight on the bar the same but might have to drop a rep or two.
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    Coming up on 2 weeks so IDK about how much losing yet. Protein and calories are where they are because I went with Martin Berkhan's table.
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    Originally Posted by mobp View Post
    Coming up on 2 weeks so IDK about how much losing yet. Protein and calories are where they are because I went with Martin Berkhan's table.
    Start with lowering your Protein

    270g is WAY too high for muscle preserving even in an energy deficit

    Current research is .7g/lbs

    (Maybe beneficial whilst in an energy deficit to go a little higher)

    Since you are only 2 weeks in on 2225, stay put and check in a week or so what's going on with your weight then you can adjust if losing too much
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    Originally Posted by boo99 View Post
    Swap out some protein for carbs brah

    You don't need that much Pro and you say you are weak from CHO being lower

    Also, how much are you losing on 2225?

    Seems low for your stats, that's what I cut on and I'm old and short
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    Stims?

    I say that cause I was cutting for a month at just under 1800 cals and it was major mind warfare. Now I'm back up to maintenance. Still need an extra black coffee right before I hit the gym. The days I have my training partner there was no issues. Purely psychological and lack of self motivation in my case. Less cals and we as humans become disinterested. Stole that from naked & afraid!
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