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    Official Lobby Day thread

    Going to be interesting; I have been following this closely and there is already tons of disinformation from the media and other outlets. Multiple shuttle buses of Antifa heading to the capitol of Virginia (Supposedly 7 buses, in MAGA gear, rumored. ) Tons of security, overwatch, and surveillance planes in vicinity. Democrat lawmakers have already been escorted to safe-houses. Estimated over 40,000 gun owners to attend, armed. I am expecting a lot of coverage and a whole host of debate and national attention tomorrow.

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    I hope it goes well. The Second Amendment is essential to maintaining the future freedom of the country forever.

    It's probable that Bloomberg, Soros, the DNC, and/or similar are gonna false flag the event, at the very least with shills sent in with Nazi flags well-hidden until just that right moment when they quickly pull the brand new flags out of their freshly-bought plastic wrappers and jump in the middle of a small unsuspecting group ..... while their other shill comrades takes pics/video ..... and then their propaganda agents all over the media and the net repeatedly claim that was what it was all about.

    That's the most likely scenario they pull because it's a favorite of theirs, but it's always possible they've cooked up an entirely new/unique tricks-and-games ploy for this event, and possibly one much worse than the above.



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    inb4 someone gets murdered, again

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    inb4 someone gets murdered, again

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    Originally Posted by AlwaysFocus View Post
    why would you say this? Dumb
    As gun rights rally looms in Virginia, Richmond residents fear another Charlottesville
    Many say they'll be staying as far away as possible from the demonstration they worry will turn violent.
    nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-rights-rally-looms-virginia-richmond-residents-fear-another-charlottesville-n1118486

    Virginia Capital on Edge as F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Neo-Nazis Before Gun Rally
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    This rally is by ordinary Virginia citizens in defense of the Second Amendment and organized by the VCDL. It has nothing whatsover in any way to do with some BS made up 'white supremacy' or 'neo-nazis.' Such talk is false and only being pushed by communist scammers and their useful idiot fools.


    https://www.vcdl.org/
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    As gun rights rally looms in Virginia, Richmond residents fear another Charlottesville
    Many say they'll be staying as far away as possible from the demonstration they worry will turn violent.
    nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-rights-rally-looms-virginia-richmond-residents-fear-another-charlottesville-n1118486

    Virginia Capital on Edge as F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Neo-Nazis Before Gun Rally
    nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/fbi-arrest-virginia-gun-rally.html

    One of them is a Canadian white supremacist who crossed into the US illegally. Lol.

    I wonder if the leftists will finally care about illegal border crossings...

    One of the men, Patrik J. Mathews, 27, a main recruiter for the group, entered the United States illegally from Canada, according to the officials.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    As gun rights rally looms in Virginia, Richmond residents fear another Charlottesville
    Many say they'll be staying as far away as possible from the demonstration they worry will turn violent.
    nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-rights-rally-looms-virginia-richmond-residents-fear-another-charlottesville-n1118486

    Virginia Capital on Edge as F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Neo-Nazis Before Gun Rally
    nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/fbi-arrest-virginia-gun-rally.html
    Why are pond scum left wing vermin.coming to the March? These pond life don’t contribute to society, they don’t work, don’t pay taxes and they hate America with a vengeance
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    As gun rights rally looms in Virginia, Richmond residents fear another Charlottesville
    Many say they'll be staying as far away as possible from the demonstration they worry will turn violent.
    nbcnews.com/news/us-news/gun-rights-rally-looms-virginia-richmond-residents-fear-another-charlottesville-n1118486

    Virginia Capital on Edge as F.B.I. Arrests Suspected Neo-Nazis Before Gun Rally
    nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/fbi-arrest-virginia-gun-rally.html
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    This rally is by ordinary Virginia citizens in defense of the Second Amendment and organized by the VCDL. It has nothing whatsover in any way to do with some BS made up 'white supremacy' or 'neo-nazis.' Such talk is false and only being pushed by communist scammers and their useful idiot fools.


    https://www.vcdl.org/
    "A number of arrests have highlighted the risk of white supremacist violence at the event. Among those arrested are alleged members of a neo-Nazi group, including men who reportedly discussed opening fire at the Richmond rally, and men who were charged with plotting to murder an antifascist couple in Georgia.

    As white supremacists, militia groups and conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones announced plans to attend, the event has drawn comparisons to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in August 2017, which produced extensive violence and the murder of counter-protester Heather Heyer."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ounter-protest
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    "A number of arrests have highlighted the risk of white supremacist violence at the event. Among those arrested are alleged members of a neo-Nazi group, including men who reportedly discussed opening fire at the Richmond rally, and men who were charged with plotting to murder an antifascist couple in Georgia.

    As white supremacists, militia groups and conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones announced plans to attend, the event has drawn comparisons to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in August 2017, which produced extensive violence and the murder of counter-protester Heather Heyer."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ounter-protest
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    "A number of arrests have highlighted the risk of white supremacist violence at the event. Among those arrested are alleged members of a neo-Nazi group, including men who reportedly discussed opening fire at the Richmond rally, and men who were charged with plotting to murder an antifascist couple in Georgia.

    As white supremacists, militia groups and conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones announced plans to attend, the event has drawn comparisons to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville in August 2017, which produced extensive violence and the murder of counter-protester Heather Heyer."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ounter-protest
    ...


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    If you actually understood communism/socialism and it's context in relation to capitalism then you wouldn't have such a bitter perspective towards it. You may not agree with it and are most likely a product of a severe campaign against the ideology but to say it's psuedo-intellectual is ridiculous.

    For all we know, communism is really inevitable as communists claim and will manifest after capitalism collapses. It could come about after a strong merge with body and technology (strong AI). And it involves a pretty complex economic theory which I don't fully understand because i'm not well-versed in economics.

    Communism might not work right now, in the 20th century, or in the next 50 years. But Marx predicted it would eventually replace capitalism after it's collapse so if that eventually happens then he would be right. Technologically induced or otherwise.

    Socialism, a branch closer related to communism than capitalism is playing a significant role in politics. The only real laggard to socialism is the United States. Most other countries like Germany, Sweden, Canada, England and Australia are all far more socialist and in many of those ways are in a better position than the US. And this is an increasing trend. If corporations run amok like they have been, then it's quite possible they will destroy the environment and government for profit possibly leading to a dramatic revolution. It won't happen over night.


    Critics of capitalism view the system as inherently exploitative. In an economic sense, exploitation is often related to the expropriation of labor for profit and based on Marx's version of the labor theory of value. The labor theory of value was supported by classical economists like David Ricardo and Adam Smith who believed that "the value of a commodity depends on the relative quantity of labor which is necessary for its production."
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    don't be so easily led by propaganda...

    "According to Marxist analysis, class conflict within capitalism arises due to intensifying contradictions between highly-productive mechanized and socialized production performed by the proletariat, and private ownership and private appropriation of the surplus product in the form of surplus value (profit) by a small minority of private owners called the bourgeoisie. As the contradiction becomes apparent to the proletariat, social unrest between the two antagonistic classes intensifies, culminating in a social revolution. The eventual long-term outcome of this revolution would be the establishment of socialism - a socioeconomic system based on cooperative ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one's contribution, and production organized directly for use. Karl Marx hypothesized that, as the productive forces and technology continued to advance, socialism would eventually give way to a communist stage of social development. Communism would be a classless, stateless, moneyless society based on common ownership."

    This is what's happening right now. Think about all the cries in the US about the emergence of socialism. Europe. The world is moving towards socialism. Capitalism/Communism have inherent factors that are part of it's system and will manifest no matter where or when they are implemented. And perhaps when we are far more intelligent as a species (merging man and machine) we will be less primitive, individualistic and self-centered and living in a classless society might actually work. Maybe not.
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    the same can be said for capitalism bro. Communism isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Just because some people got behind the theory and used it as a means for oppression and violence doesn't distort the original theory. It's solid and that's why people learn and study it in University/college. It's one way of running a society, just like capitalism. And capitalism has it's problems and evidence supporting the theory points to it eventually being overthrown.

    and xenic I think it would go anarcho-communist
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
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    Communism isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Just because some people got behind the theory and used it as a means for oppression and violence doesn't distort the original theory. It's solid and that's why people learn and study it in University/college. It's one way of running a society, just like capitalism. And capitalism has it's problems and evidence supporting the theory points to it eventually being overthrown.
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    Looking forward to some left wing transplant waving a nazi flag and the media flash that as representative of the whole 2A movement.

    Liberals think they're so woke but can't see the tyrant Dems and media working to strip our rights before their own eyes. Sad.
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    Originally Posted by Ephedra View Post
    Looking forward to some left wing transplant waving a nazi flag and the media flash that as representative of the whole 2A movement.

    Liberals think they're so woke but can't see the tyrant Dems and media working to strip our rights before their own eyes. Sad.
    Absolutely this.
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    I'll be watching and posting over the next 7 + hours, but between here, Arfcom, GLP(maybe some), and Tweeter

    Lobby Day is officially 8 am to noon, but protests may continue after and IMO that becomes a more dangerous time if so, especially for false flags. Hopefully there's no major problems though.



    live streams thread -

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    anyone who wants a lotta info on what's going on, there will be numerous very active threads at Arfcom's General Discussion Forum -

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    latest video from the President of the VCDL


    Virginia braces for gun-rights rally as worries over violence, hate groups and militias grow




    and their last update:

    https://mailchi.mp/c8b838ee9ad5/va-a...y?e=bd090fc41f

    - VCDL is concerned that the police may not have fully considered the crowd size that is coming, even thought we have indicated it could be as much as 120,000. Be prepared to move to an overflow area if directed to do so.
    - One of our members with access to police intelligence has advised us that specific threats have been uncovered to three of the speakers at the rally. Yet, just a few days ago when specifically asked about any such threats, the Capitol Police denied knowing of any and have not shared any such information to date.
    - Remember to bring bottled water to avoid dehydration.
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    funny how lukelissen has already provided a narrative so that if there's any violence whatsoever, it MUST be double agents in disguise pretending to be MAGA cultists!

    It's like the possibility of these pissed off gun nuts doing something violent is completely impossible.

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    I'm not gonna post all the live links available in post after post

    If you want live streams, go here

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...0206#i83080206



    and here

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    buncha ppl are starting to go live

    this is gonna be a big event, lotsa ppl

    some dude was just on live stream carrying not only a Barret 50 cal, but also an AR and full kit and backpack, it's happnin.gif
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    This guy is good and he's gonna be up most of the morning so I'll share his stream -



    he's already through the security gate and inside the Capitol grounds early

    peak crowd should be 10:30 - 11:30
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    funny how lukelissen has already provided a narrative so that if there's any violence whatsoever, it MUST be double agents in disguise pretending to be MAGA cultists!

    It's like the possibility of these pissed off gun nuts doing something violent is completely impossible.

    Right wing cultists don't care about the truth, they care about pushing an agenda.
    CCW holders are the most law abiding sub group of people in the entire country. CCW holders commit crimes at less rate than even our law enforcement.

    Quit trying to paint a false narrative about people standing up for constitutional rights.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    CCW holders are the most law abiding sub group of people in the entire country. CCW holders commit crimes at less rate than even our law enforcement.

    Quit trying to paint a false narrative about people standing up for constitutional rights.
    I'm not painting a false narrative, your cultist boyfriend is considering he's trying to say if anything violent happens it's definitely a false flag caused by undercovered antifa members.

    CCW holders may be law-abiding, but that doesn't mean violence can't occur at these demonstrations.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    I'm not painting a false narrative, your cultist boyfriend is considering he's trying to say if anything violent happens it's definitely a false flag caused by undercovered antifa members.

    CCW holders may be law-abiding, but that doesn't mean violence can't occur at these demonstrations.
    I'll agree with you that violence isn't out of the realm of possibility as emotions can run high during these types of events. However, like most rallies that are right side politically there will be significant counter pressure looking to stir up trouble.
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