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    Should I get back into BJJ after a long layoff?

    So I earned my blue belt around a year ago and stopped training a few months after that. I have a lot of respect for my previous instructor, but I disagreed with the way that classes were setup, was having a lot of back issues (not his fault), on top of having some concerns about the risk of head trauma. Even though BJJ has a low risk of head trauma, I took a few hard blows to the head from takedowns at the school I was training at from reckless training partners and I had a concussion at a young age (almost 20 years ago now), so I am trying to avoid getting any more actual concussions. I am willing to get bumps, bruises, etc., but the idea of brain damage makes me nervous. The school I trained at taught takedowns more than the average school and I didn't mind training them once in a while, but the frequency we used them made me uneasy, especially since it was pretty much inevitable that you would have to roll with a reckless white belt starting on the feet at some point and you'd be missing out on a lot if you just sat out. There is another school that is further away, but they don't really care about takedowns and just have them taught occasionally in class. This school is like most BJJ schools and focuses more on rolling from the knees, which I can agree with.

    I feel like the environment at the other school would be better for me and I am feeling the itch to train again, because I don't really have any other hobbies, but don't know if it's a smart choice.
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    Originally Posted by beq1991 View Post
    So I earned my blue belt around a year ago and stopped training a few months after that. I have a lot of respect for my previous instructor, but I disagreed with the way that classes were setup, was having a lot of back issues (not his fault), on top of having some concerns about the risk of head trauma. Even though BJJ has a low risk of head trauma, I took a few hard blows to the head from takedowns at the school I was training at from reckless training partners and I had a concussion at a young age, so I am trying to avoid getting any more actual concussions. The school I trained at taught takedowns more than the average school and I didn't mind training them once in a while, but the frequency we used them made me uneasy, especially since it was pretty much inevitable that you would have to roll with a super aggressive white belt starting on the feet at some point. There is another school that is further away, but they don't really care about takedowns and just have them taught occasionally in class. This school is like most BJJ schools and focuses more on rolling from the knees, which I can agree with.

    I feel like the environment at the other school would be better for me and I am feeling the itch to train again, because I don't really have any other hobbies, but don't know if it's a smart choice.
    I would start again 100%, it just depends on finding the right school and right partners to roll with. I have been training for about 2 years, but actually only a year with the times I had to take off for work and injuries. I recently started a gym thats closer to home, but I quickly found this gyms mentality its roll like a ****ing competition every time. Finding the right gym, with the right people to roll with i directly related to longevity in the sport imo. Nothing against those gyms, but I will drive farther and pay more to have a gym who's style I prefer.

    While its awkward I have no problem telling someone that they roll to hard for me and I wont train with them. Best of luck man!
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    Originally Posted by beq1991 View Post
    I feel like the environment at the other school would be better for me and I am feeling the itch to train again, because I don't really have any other hobbies, but don't know if it's a smart choice.
    Most BJJ schools train more cautious and nowwhere near as hard as your previous one.
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    You are going to get an avalanche of people suggesting you get back into it.....I was constantly injured over the duration of training. The entire intent of rolling is to apply pressure to places pressure isnt intended (as you know). You cant put on protective gear to prevent injuries for Jiu Jitsu - It is what it is. You can be in a great gym and all it takes is a session with someone being slightly more aggressive than they should and you end up with injuries.

    I never had the same level of injuries in boxing, kick boxing, football or any other sport I played. I would go insanely hard in football games and still ended up with less injuries. Rolling was the highest level of injuries I experienced in any sport.

    In addition I had MRSA several times from rolling. People will claim it was a dirty gym but the gym I went to was overboard with cleaning. It was not a dirty gym at all. Every single person I've known thats been into rolling for any length of time has had MRSA, ringworm, etc...

    Im not hating on Jiu Jitsu, I loved to roll but you have to know what you are in for and accept the risk going in.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    You are going to get an avalanche of people suggesting you get back into it.....I was constantly injured over the duration of training. The entire intent of rolling is to apply pressure to places pressure isnt intended (as you know). You cant put on protective gear to prevent injuries for Jiu Jitsu - It is what it is. You can be in a great gym and all it takes is a session with someone being slightly more aggressive than they should and you end up with injuries.

    I never had the same level of injuries in boxing, kick boxing, football or any other sport I played. I would go insanely hard in football games and still ended up with less injuries. Rolling was the highest level of injuries I experienced in any sport.

    In addition I had MRSA several times from rolling. People will claim it was a dirty gym but the gym I went to was overboard with cleaning. It was not a dirty gym at all. Every single person I've known thats been into rolling for any length of time has had MRSA, ringworm, etc...

    Im not hating on Jiu Jitsu, I loved to roll but you have to know what you are in for and accept the risk going in.
    Do you have any other hobbies currently, out of curiosity? I guess the issue for me is when I did BJJ, it was a badass hobby that kept me busy and gave me something to talk about, but my only real hobbies now are lifting and reading. I'm not really a part of any "community" outside of my work, which really isn't much of a community, especially as a cubicle job. I guess I'm looking for a badass/manly hobby that doesn't involve getting punched in the head repeatedly.
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    I think the title of this thread should be "Should I ask MMA section again if I should start BJJ again". You repeat this thread every month. It doesn't seem you're cut out to do martial arts. Plenty of other hobbies man. Go play some chess. BJJ without the injuries
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    what you should do is go visit other gyms in the area for free and see how the gyms operate. check out several things when you go visiting- the attitude of the students; this usually reflects the tone of the instructors. check the schedule of course and what they gym is focused on - some gyms are more invested in competition and others are more hobbyist type (nothing wrong with that)
    then go back to your original gym and see how that feels in contrast to the other places you visited. I personally would just find a new place to train at and start over fresh but thats just me
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    Originally Posted by shesprints View Post
    If you really loved the sport, you wouldn't be asking us this question.
    this. if you find another gym that you like, then go. just flow with the go bro
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    The issue with bjj, despite what anyone says, is that it is a martial art for self defence. Hobby, game, fun, party piece, badge of honour etc are all peripheral labels. Ironically however you end up getting insanely injured and battered more so than you would over the same time period than in actual combat.

    Meaning, you are far more likely to get injured in bjj than in an actual street fight.

    Despite what ufc fans may think, fighting is largely something you are born with. Sure yes join up to a gym for a few months and learn basic effective technique. That stays with you. But to join and progress through the belts and get “bjj cardio” and all this other noise - useless.

    I am not a professionally trained fight and I have beaten up 2 national level mma fighters (in sparring) and 4 trained mma fighters one who was an internationally known boxer (separately over few years) in street fights. You would be surprised what happens in actual combat versus some gym and mat.
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    The issue with bjj, despite what anyone says, is that it is a martial art for self defence. Hobby, game, fun, party piece, badge of honour etc are all peripheral labels. Ironically however you end up getting insanely injured and battered more so than you would over the same time period than in actual combat.

    Meaning, you are far more likely to get injured in bjj than in an actual street fight.

    Despite what ufc fans may think, fighting is largely something you are born with. Sure yes join up to a gym for a few months and learn basic effective technique. That stays with you. But to join and progress through the belts and get “bjj cardio” and all this other noise - useless.

    I am not a professionally trained fight and I have beaten up 2 national level mma fighters (in sparring) and 4 trained mma fighters one who was an internationally known boxer (separately over few years) in street fights. You would be surprised what happens in actual combat versus some gym and mat.
    I call bullsh*t on this post.
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    Originally Posted by Crazee_786 View Post
    The issue with bjj, despite what anyone says, is that it is a martial art for self defence. Hobby, game, fun, party piece, badge of honour etc are all peripheral labels. Ironically however you end up getting insanely injured and battered more so than you would over the same time period than in actual combat.

    Meaning, you are far more likely to get injured in bjj than in an actual street fight.

    Despite what ufc fans may think, fighting is largely something you are born with. Sure yes join up to a gym for a few months and learn basic effective technique. That stays with you. But to join and progress through the belts and get “bjj cardio” and all this other noise - useless.

    I am not a professionally trained fight and I have beaten up 2 national level mma fighters (in sparring) and 4 trained mma fighters one who was an internationally known boxer (separately over few years) in street fights. You would be surprised what happens in actual combat versus some gym and mat.
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    I can't answer that question for you. Weigh the pros and cons and make your own decision. I love BJJ and I would encourage you to get back into it. Try the Firas Zihabi approach and grease the groove. No need to intensely roll in every single roll imo. Volume and consistency is what matters.

    Take those words with a grain of salt because my goal isn't competition or to be world renowned. I work a physical job and can't stomach a serious injury that would derail me, so I think maybe my goals are more in line with yours or the average joe. I want to be better, but not at all costs. I try to go in, roll the best I can, and learn every day. It helps that I have made friends with a lot of other people going to my gym, so I look forward to BS'ing with people too on the side of technique class.
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    Originally Posted by iloveus View Post

    Was it the fact that this guy would have to be fighting in the bar every weekend without ending up in jail to run into that many trained fighters, or the fact that trained fighters most of the time have absolutely nothing to prove and would probably walk away from a bar fight with a drunken fool before sending him back to the MMA section?

    Or maybe the fact that anyone who has actually trained knows that someone who is trained can be an absolute geek but still a killer.

    To counter this dudes argument, I hadn't been in a fight since high school and never after I started training. I honestly never thought I would ever get into a fight again in my life, I just love BJJ. As embarrassing as this situation became here it goes, I am a white guy dating a Latina. Long story short I was at a family reunion with her and there was 300 plus people there. I only knew the immediate family and extended but none of the distant distant relative and I got into a situation where fighting was the only way out. Unfortunately not only did barely anyone know who I was, being the only white dude, no one thought it was a good idea to see what happened, and instead everyone jumped in to join the family member. I was in for the fight of my life but I kid you not I walked away from absolute carnage, completely safe minus a black eye and mangled hands. I fought about 10-20 dudes over a 10 minute period. After I finally escaped and met up with the immediate family later in the day to explain myself (which they completely were on my side btw), they went on to say people were standing around bleeding everywhere and even 5-10 minutes after the fight people they didn't even account for were crawling out of the bushes. Sounds like something out of a movie, but all I can say is


    1.) grappling strength is not a myth

    2.) you even when seeing red will lucidly slow things down inside the chaos and make logical millisecond synapses on what to do and who to move to next, where not to stay long, using the time bought by defeating or throwing one guy to selectively decide and engage who is the next closest and biggest threat.

    3.) Just because you don't train striking doesnt mean you cant just add punches to your grappling and wipe people out in mere seconds without having to stay on the ground for more then a few seconds to avoid the famous "youd get kicked in the face argument"

    4.) and something I really understand now is how Royce Gracie won the first UFCs. I've never felt like a badass, I didn't even know if I'd ever feel like a badass but manhandling an entire posse trying to beat your ass at the same time really puts into perspective how powerful BJJ is, how powerful being able to train everyday at 100% is and how well it prepares you, and how little chance any of those guys had in the early UFCs.
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    Originally Posted by Crazee_786 View Post
    The issue with bjj, despite what anyone says, is that it is a martial art for self defence. Hobby, game, fun, party piece, badge of honour etc are all peripheral labels. Ironically however you end up getting insanely injured and battered more so than you would over the same time period than in actual combat.

    Meaning, you are far more likely to get injured in bjj than in an actual street fight.

    Despite what ufc fans may think, fighting is largely something you are born with. Sure yes join up to a gym for a few months and learn basic effective technique. That stays with you. But to join and progress through the belts and get “bjj cardio” and all this other noise - useless.

    I am not a professionally trained fight and I have beaten up 2 national level mma fighters (in sparring) and 4 trained mma fighters one who was an internationally known boxer (separately over few years) in street fights. You would be surprised what happens in actual combat versus some gym and mat.

    Not only are you not trained professionally, you're full of crap and clearly have zero idea of what you're talking about. I went 6-7 years training no-gi and MT before I had my first injury. Thats with heavy sparing and rolling...
    I'm not even going to touch the rest of the erroneous information in your post.

    Again - you're full of crap.

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    So edgy and precious , snowflake my life would blow your mind I got stories a 90 year old couldn't fathom having son. Jog along , this is the land of make believe- for you.

    And thats why I’m still here. If you know, you know.
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