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    Hung out at a girl's place but nothing happened...

    So earlier tonight I went over to this girl's place, I have known her for a few years, she was dating someone and now is single.

    We matched on Tinder at one point, I gave her my number and we talk routinely.

    Friendly conversations, I think there's some subtleties in there but being respectful as she had just got out of a relationship.

    Ends up ordering me pizza, breaks out some oreos for us to share, offered some wine but I refused because I had brought a beverage with.

    Ended up talking for a few hours, and every so often I would catch a look in her eyes that was different... body language definitely seemed open but nothing seemed to put out a message of like "Kiss me" or something.

    She had said earlier in a text that because she didn't have a couch that we could possibly "sit on her bed and watch a movie if it wasn't too weird" -- that right there kind of hinted at something, but I was being super cautious as it was our actual first time hanging out.

    Did I flub my chances or did I create any kind of tension?
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    you had to at least try if you were interested. the girl isnt going to in that situation
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    You can’t be serious. ? She wanted rebound dink and you messed it up you beta phaggot . As soon as you left she texted Tyrone to come dink her down
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    You get a chick alone who’s definitely into you and don’t make a move...

    U fukkin w0t m8?
    Literally invited you over to Netflix and chill plus drink

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    Proof that OP is really a phaggot.
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    Just cause a woman invites you to her place doesn't mean or guarantee sex is gonna happen. What you should have did was made it crystal clear the only reason you wanted to go to her place was to hook up with her. Depending on her response, she would have either reciprocated or have wasted your time.

    Don't give women plausible deniability.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Just cause a woman invites you to her place doesn't mean or guarantee sex is gonna happen. What you should have did was made it crystal clear the only reason you wanted to go to her place was to hook up with her. Depending on her response, she would have either reciprocated or have wasted your time.

    Don't give women plausible deniability.
    agree with this, but I also think you have to try for it. I empathise with OP though because sometimes you're waiting for a clear signal or perfect moment to do something and it doesnt come. One of the things I've noticed is that if a woman wants something to happen she'll go a long way into setting up this moment to happen. You'll still have to initiate it, but she will facilitate it. The ones who are very nonchalant don't really care too much, and if it happens it happens - which was probably the case here.

    the ones who are into you are into you. There's no point hiding that you're into her.
    If she feels the same she will reciprocate your advances, and if she doesn't, she'll say no. Either verbally or (more usually) physically unless you're really persistent and can't take a hint at which point she will be more overt.
    Both are good because the latter means you get an answer and don't have your time wasted. I did this a lot when I was younger. I wasn't very direct and had my time wasted by girls a lot just wanting my attention.

    But on the flip side I wasted my own time because sometimes I just wouldn't escalate when I wanted to because I felt it was too soon. If a girl is into you, there is no too soon. Girls don't meet 1 on 1 in a private setting with a guy for smalltalk.

    Had an experience recently (posted a thread here about it) where I kissed a girl who i had a great 1st date with, after only a couple hours, when she came back to my place. She didn't kiss me back, and over the next few days slowly ghosted me.
    I concluded that if she was TRULY into me she would have overlooked my haste or at the very least not ghosted me for showing interest. So I got my answer and wasted minimal time.

    If push comes to shove and she is turning you down for sex (within a reasonable amount of dates, i.e. >3) then you need to move on.
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    Originally Posted by smashedurgfx10 View Post
    agree with this, but I also think you have to try for it. I empathise with OP though because sometimes you're waiting for a clear signal or perfect moment to do something and it doesnt come. One of the things I've noticed is that if a woman wants something to happen she'll go a long way into setting up this moment to happen. You'll still have to initiate it, but she will facilitate it. The ones who are very nonchalant don't really care too much, and if it happens it happens - which was probably the case here.

    the ones who are into you are into you. There's no point hiding that you're into her.
    If she feels the same she will reciprocate your advances, and if she doesn't, she'll say no. Either verbally or (more usually) physically unless you're really persistent and can't take a hint at which point she will be more overt.
    Both are good because the latter means you get an answer and don't have your time wasted. I did this a lot when I was younger. I wasn't very direct and had my time wasted by girls a lot just wanting my attention.

    But on the flip side I wasted my own time because sometimes I just wouldn't escalate when I wanted to because I felt it was too soon. If a girl is into you, there is no too soon. Girls don't meet 1 on 1 in a private setting with a guy for smalltalk.

    Had an experience recently (posted a thread here about it) where I kissed a girl who i had a great 1st date with, after only a couple hours, when she came back to my place. She didn't kiss me back, and over the next few days slowly ghosted me.
    I concluded that if she was TRULY into me she would have overlooked my haste or at the very least not ghosted me for showing interest. So I got my answer and wasted minimal time.

    If push comes to shove and she is turning you down for sex (within a reasonable amount of dates, i.e. >3) then you need to move on.
    True.

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    "brought a beverage with" lol'd at that vernacular.

    she either isnt into you like that, you're friendzoned, and her emotional tampon OR you're in your head.

    You can have the best convo in the world with a girl but if your body language isnt vibing then you're not going to get your nut.

    Should've transitioned to cuddling while watching netflix or some other excuse to get close to her and warm her up so you could initiate something sexual if she likes you
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    Originally Posted by kingHanley View Post
    You can’t be serious. ? She wanted rebound dink and you messed it up you beta phaggot . As soon as you left she texted Tyrone to come dink her down
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    I bet she's posting on another board: "I had this guy over making clear signals I wanted to hook up and he didn't make a move, is there something wrong with me?"

    News flash: If women invite you over to their place, they WANT something. And it isn't a good conversation. They might say that for plausible deniability, but 99% of the time, they at least are curious to see what happens.
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    Originally Posted by thadderbox View Post
    So earlier tonight I went over to this girl's place, I have known her for a few years, she was dating someone and now is single.

    We matched on Tinder at one point, I gave her my number and we talk routinely.

    Friendly conversations, I think there's some subtleties in there but being respectful as she had just got out of a relationship.

    Ends up ordering me pizza, breaks out some oreos for us to share, offered some wine but I refused because I had brought a beverage with.

    Ended up talking for a few hours, and every so often I would catch a look in her eyes that was different... body language definitely seemed open but nothing seemed to put out a message of like "Kiss me" or something.

    She had said earlier in a text that because she didn't have a couch that we could possibly "sit on her bed and watch a movie if it wasn't too weird" -- that right there kind of hinted at something, but I was being super cautious as it was our actual first time hanging out.

    Did I flub my chances or did I create any kind of tension?
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    Originally Posted by thadderbox View Post
    So earlier tonight I went over to this girl's place, I have known her for a few years, she was dating someone and now is single.

    We matched on Tinder at one point, I gave her my number and we talk routinely.

    Friendly conversations, I think there's some subtleties in there but being respectful as she had just got out of a relationship.

    Ends up ordering me pizza, breaks out some oreos for us to share, offered some wine but I refused because I had brought a beverage with.

    Ended up talking for a few hours, and every so often I would catch a look in her eyes that was different... body language definitely seemed open but nothing seemed to put out a message of like "Kiss me" or something.

    She had said earlier in a text that because she didn't have a couch that we could possibly "sit on her bed and watch a movie if it wasn't too weird" -- that right there kind of hinted at something, but I was being super cautious as it was our actual first time hanging out.

    Did I flub my chances or did I create any kind of tension?
    you have to make the move you goddamn idiot.

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    - Matches with girl on dating app
    - Girl just out of relationship (so obvious looking for a dink to rebound/lean on)
    - Invites you to her place
    - OP doesn't initiate anything sexual at all

    Worst part is that you known this girl for years, so for her to go this far, means she's already comfortable with you, and past the potential creep/get to know you stage lol
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Just cause a woman invites you to her place doesn't mean or guarantee sex is gonna happen. What you should have did was made it crystal clear the only reason you wanted to go to her place was to hook up with her. Depending on her response, she would have either reciprocated or have wasted your time.

    Don't give women plausible deniability.
    Telling a girl you just want to bang her will 90% of the time activate her anti-slut defenses and they'll tell you off even if they want to bang you too. Better to set up a situation (like netflix & chill), where a hookup is implied, then just say "I want to fuk you."

    OP had the perfect situation to fuk her and didn't. And women will almost never make the first move. But he might possibly get another chance.
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    Had the same thing happen with a milf neighbor i barely know, basically just invited me to her place 3 days ago

    We just chatted for 2 hours, only "signals" i got was some prolonged eye contact twice. Tried to get close a few times but she didn't seem to acknowledge it/come a little closer herself

    Think i fuked it up cuz i was a little too nervous because I have chronic anxiety but fuk it. I added her on IG haven't heard from her yet
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    It happens to every guy at least once in his life, I think. I had an experience where I fukced up just as bad. Chat with tinder girl for a few weeks, had a couple dates already, she mentions it's been a rough winter and she needs cuddles but doesn't trust herself if I come over, admits that she's only ever had sex while in a relationship, i calm her nerves and go over, had dinner and watched a movie, some cuddles, nothing happens, she gets sleepy so I said I should go home, ghosts me the next week. Granted I was on pills to deal with depression from my father's recent death so my hormones were all sorts of fukced already but I'll never ne able to live this moment down since it was guaranteed sex and I obviously failed and disappointed said tinder girl.
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    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    Telling a girl you just want to bang her will 90% of the time activate her anti-slut defenses and they'll tell you off even if they want to bang you too. Better to set up a situation (like netflix & chill), where a hookup is implied, then just say "I want to fuk you."

    OP had the perfect situation to fuk her and didn't. And women will almost never make the first move. But he might possibly get another chance.
    So?

    Even of it does, if you know what you're doing you can still seduce her into hooking up. That's if she's interested; if not then she'll make up some excuse to not have you come over. I don't give women plausible deniability as if she's an attention whore, it can lead to wasted time. Better to let your intentions be clear.

    Sure guys most of the time need to initiate but just being in the "right" place don't mean anything with Timewasters especially if their body language seems closed off.

    Idk about you guys but I wouldn't have the patience to try again exceptions aside.
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    Originally Posted by smashedurgfx10 View Post
    agree with this, but I also think you have to try for it. I empathise with OP though because sometimes you're waiting for a clear signal or perfect moment to do something and it doesnt come. One of the things I've noticed is that if a woman wants something to happen she'll go a long way into setting up this moment to happen. You'll still have to initiate it, but she will facilitate it. The ones who are very nonchalant don't really care too much, and if it happens it happens - which was probably the case here.

    the ones who are into you are into you. There's no point hiding that you're into her.
    If she feels the same she will reciprocate your advances, and if she doesn't, she'll say no. Either verbally or (more usually) physically unless you're really persistent and can't take a hint at which point she will be more overt.
    Both are good because the latter means you get an answer and don't have your time wasted. I did this a lot when I was younger. I wasn't very direct and had my time wasted by girls a lot just wanting my attention.

    But on the flip side I wasted my own time because sometimes I just wouldn't escalate when I wanted to because I felt it was too soon. If a girl is into you, there is no too soon. Girls don't meet 1 on 1 in a private setting with a guy for smalltalk.

    Had an experience recently (posted a thread here about it) where I kissed a girl who i had a great 1st date with, after only a couple hours, when she came back to my place. She didn't kiss me back, and over the next few days slowly ghosted me.
    I concluded that if she was TRULY into me she would have overlooked my haste or at the very least not ghosted me for showing interest. So I got my answer and wasted minimal time.

    If push comes to shove and she is turning you down for sex (within a reasonable amount of dates, i.e. >3) then you need to move on.
    I disagree with blackscorpio and you agreeing. When you go bold 100% with women they don't even want to give you time of day. She probably wouldn't even invite you over if she didn't see the possibility of just hanging out with a friend. The one who makes the twist for the fuk is you.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    So?

    Even of it does, if you know what you're doing you can still seduce her into hooking up. That's if she's interested; if not then she'll make up some excuse to not have you come over. I don't give women plausible deniability as if she's an attention whore, it can lead to wasted time. Better to let your intentions be clear.

    Sure guys most of the time need to initiate but just being in the "right" place don't mean anything with Timewasters especially if their body language seems closed off.

    Idk about you guys but I wouldn't have the patience to try again exceptions aside.
    Uhh there's legit almost no way to recover once a girl's anti-slut defenses are up, which is why it's much better to finesse the situation. I've hooked up with girls that would've never been down had I straight up told them I just wanted to fuk them. Doing that will likely prompt the "I'm not looking for a hookup" response. But if you take them out for a drink, show them you're a cool dude, then after an hour or so ask them to come back for a drink at your place, you'll be in.

    I'd say asking to fuk straight up will work 1-5% of the time. Asking to grab a drink first will work 50-80% of the time. In both scenarios the girl is physically attracted to you.
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    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    Telling a girl you just want to bang her will 90% of the time activate her anti-slut defenses and they'll tell you off even if they want to bang you too. Better to set up a situation (like netflix & chill), where a hookup is implied, then just say "I want to fuk you."

    OP had the perfect situation to fuk her and didn't. And women will almost never make the first move. But he might possibly get another chance.
    Exactly. This is it lol. I once even had oral with a gurl who no way in hell was there a logical chance she was willing to do that with me. It rlly is just about going for it whilst playing friends. Tho back in that time i rlly was a friend to her and I saw her as a friend. I was just horny as fuk and went for it and we got it goin lol
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    I disagree with blackscorpio and you agreeing. When you go bold 100% with women they don't even want to give you time of day. She probably wouldn't even invite you over if she didn't see the possibility of just hanging out with a friend. The one who makes the twist for the fuk is you.
    Not true. Women like boldness...well real women.

    If you're dealing with manipulative women in their late teens to early 20s, of course they ain't gonna like boldness but a real woman who likes you is gonna appreciate that.

    Regardless why the fuk do you guys care about how they will react? So what if they have a negative reaction, it's about what you want, not what they want.

    If they have their anti sloot defense up, you just have to persuade them and convince them you're a discreet, non judgmental dude. And if they're keep playing games, charge them.

    You guys saying being verbally bold is a bad thing shows you guys are scared of her flipping out and losing the pussy even though it technically was never offered to you in the first place.
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    Exactly. This is it lol. I once even had oral with a gurl who no way in hell was there a logical chance she was willing to do that with me. It rlly is just about going for it whilst playing friends. Tho back in that time i rlly was a friend to her and I saw her as a friend. I was just horny as fuk and went for it and we got it goin lol
    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    Uhh there's legit almost no way to recover once a girl's anti-slut defenses are up, which is why it's much better to finesse the situation. I've hooked up with girls that would've never been down had I straight up told them I just wanted to fuk them. Doing that will likely prompt the "I'm not looking for a hookup" response. But if you take them out for a drink, show them you're a cool dude, then after an hour or so ask them to come back for a drink at your place, you'll be in.

    I'd say asking to fuk straight up will work 1-5% of the time. Asking to grab a drink first will work 50-80% of the time. In both scenarios the girl is physically attracted to you.
    Yeaaaaah no wonder you guys struggle.

    Objective minded people will realize I'm right. Being bold does work 100% of the time, even if you get rejected cause you don't waste time. And LMAO on going on dates to hook up, this generation of men are retarded, cowardly bitches.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Yeaaaaah no wonder you guys struggle.

    Objective minded people will realize I'm right. Being bold does work 100% of the time, even if you get rejected cause you don't waste time. And LMAO on going on dates to hook up, this generation of men are retarded, cowardly bitches.
    Sheesh u mad.

    I've tried it all. In my experience you will get laid a lot more if you use finesse with women and build some trust and rapport first. Don't even mention sex before meeting. Just hangout, converse and treat them like a normal person, and make a move once you get them in a private setting.
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    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    Sheesh u mad.

    I've tried it all. In my experience you will get laid a lot more if you use finesse with women and build some trust and rapport first. Don't even mention sex before meeting. Just hangout, converse and treat them like a normal person, and make a move once you get them in a private setting.
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    Originally Posted by EliasEmmanuel View Post
    Exactly man
    I should add that if you don't have patience for that kind of "game," then blackscorpio's method is perfectly fine. You'll likely save time & money, but also won't get laid near as much.
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    Originally Posted by BlackScorpio91 View Post
    Not true. Women like boldness...well real women.

    If you're dealing with manipulative women in their late teens to early 20s, of course they ain't gonna like boldness but a real woman who likes you is gonna appreciate that.

    Regardless why the fuk do you guys care about how they will react? So what if they have a negative reaction, it's about what you want, not what they want.

    If they have their anti sloot defense up, you just have to persuade them and convince them you're a discreet, non judgmental dude. And if they're keep playing games, charge them.

    You guys saying being verbally bold is a bad thing shows you guys are scared of her flipping out and losing the pussy even though it technically was never offered to you in the first place.
    Boldness only works in person but if you go bold through chat you got the pussy lost 90% of the time. Why would you do that then?

    I've been listening to all this advice, put in her in her place yara yara. Back in the day I was slaying and I didn't put anybody in their place I would just go as friends and I would get to slayin eventually. You guys who go bold get only women that want something specific from you. I.e money or looks. Personality attraction is game and that"s the only attraction that matters in my opinion

    Let alone the fact that I am in my twenties dude I want to lay bishes my age
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    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    I should add that if you don't have patience for that kind of "game," then blackscorpio's method is perfectly fine. You'll likely save time & money, but also won't get laid near as much.
    Everyone has something specific that works for them and I noticed that game is the only thing that be working for me. Boldness is useless for me or for anybody who isn't chad or christian gray
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    Originally Posted by RtardPuncher View Post
    Sheesh u mad.

    I've tried it all. In my experience you will get laid a lot more if you use finesse with women and build some trust and rapport first. Don't even mention sex before meeting. Just hangout, converse and treat them like a normal person, and make a move once you get them in a private setting.
    This right here, treat them like normal humans and not a hole to hold your dink, you have a much better chance of smashing.
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