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    Post So, I went to the doctor this morning...

    I went to my General Physician this morning for a check-up and went through the normal routine with the nurse, i.e. blood pressure check and weight and height.

    Doc gave me the ok and when I got home, I looked at the print-out they gave me.

    My blood pressure was: 122/74 No meds at all.

    I thought my blood pressure was really good, but the print-out says that I have elevated blood pressure, according to the government. Wat?

    I weighed 192 with clothes on this morning, 187 no clothes earlier this morning and my height is 5'11".

    My Body Mass Index is 25-29, which according to the government, I am overweight. Wat?

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    To me, this information is deceptive because for people who workout regularly, it has the potential to be dangerous, as a doctor might prescribe medication when you don't really need it. My doc didn't bring it up, but the print-out did.

    If my doctor had brought it up, I would have told him that I workout religiously, so please take that into consideration.

    This isn't shocking information except that it is probably safe to say that some people can be over-prescribed if they don't do a little research and IMO it is always a good idea to question a doctor on any prescriptions that have the potential to negatively affect your health.

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    your BP is fine. let it go.
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    Mark, they keep changing the "normal" numbers for blood pressure and BMI.
    Remember muscle weighs more than fat.
    120-129 is "elevated" based on the new charts, but unless it jumps or remains high why worry?
    sums it up a thread will start off promising and then turn into name calling..
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    Originally Posted by djdizzydave View Post
    your BP is fine. let it go.
    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Mark, they keep changing the "normal" numbers for blood pressure and BMI.
    Remember muscle weighs more than fat.
    120-129 is "elevated" based on the new charts, but unless it jumps or remains high why worry?
    Agreed to both, thanks. To be clear, I know I am fine. It's just that the CDC's BMI is lacking in detail which has the potential to cause issues with some people.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post

    My Body Mass Index is 25-29, which according to the government, I am overweight. Wat?
    Well, at least you're not obese like I am.
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    If you want a better reading, get yourself a bp monitor and check at home regularly. I check in the am and pm, and sit for a few minutes before taking the reading. There was about a 10 point difference in my systolic in doing this. One single measurement doesn’t mean squat.
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    Originally Posted by bustasinclair View Post
    Well, at least you're not obese like I am.
    Oh, please. You have a 24-Hour gym at your home

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    If you want a better reading, get yourself a bp monitor and check at home regularly. I check in the am and pm, and sit for a few minutes before taking the reading. There was about a 10 point difference in my systolic in doing this. One single measurement doesn’t mean squat.
    I do have one. You are that blood pressure fluctuates during the day. I don't check it everyday, but a couple times per week. That's because I'm not too worried about my BP. I have never had high BP. My dad had very high BP and it affected his health.
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    BMI is retarded. I'm ottermode, low bf% and still on the ragged edge of being overweight according to that scale
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    Things like BMI are for the general population who have typical lean muscle mass amounts. Your healthcare professional is the one that has to make the call whether you have a problem or not based on how you look compared to that number. i.e. you're fine.

    As for BP, I think they may have taken the top number down to 110 or 115 recently, when it was always 120. Really, you just don't want to get to a point where you at or approaching 140. Also, you gotta remember there are a lot of things that can affect a single reading. White Coat hypertension is a real thing (I have it). This is when your BP goes up while in the Dr office. Cuff-size is also important if you have a bigger bicep. I need to use the fat person's cuff or it causes a tourniquet effect resulting in a higher reading. Lastly, something as insignificant as having a large coffee before your visit can also produce a higher reading than normal.

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    Originally Posted by TBO1313 View Post
    BMI is retarded. I'm ottermode, low bf% and still on the ragged edge of being overweight according to that scale
    Exactly.

    Originally Posted by ajdahlheimer View Post
    Things like BMI are for the general population who have typical lean muscle mass amounts. Your healthcare professional is the one that has to make the call whether you have a problem or not based on how you look compared to that number. i.e. you're fine.

    As for BP, I think they may have taken the top number down to 110 or 115 recently, when it was always 120. Really, you just don't want to get to a point where you at or approaching 140. Also, you gotta remember there are a lot of things that can affect a single reading. White Coat hypertension is a real thing (I have it). This is when your BP goes up while in the Dr office. Cuff-size is also important if you have a bigger bicep. I need to use the fat person's cuff or it causes a tourniquet effect resulting in a higher reading. Lastly, something as insignificant as having a large coffee before your visit can also produce a higher reading than normal.

    -AJ
    I have experienced the White Coat hypertension, but not very high, when I give blood every 2 months. Coffee and walking across the parking lot raises BP a bit.

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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    Agreed to both, thanks. To be clear, I know I am fine. It's just that the CDC's BMI is lacking in detail which has the potential to cause issues with some people.
    Well i am obese based on their stupid charts(no one at my gym would say that), but it doesn't consider 35 years of lifting weights into their BMI equations.
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    Mine is elevated on the first check but 10 minutes later it’s fine. They say I have white coat syndrome.
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    Just had my blood pressure taken at the doctor's office today as well, almost identical. 124/74
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    When my doctor told me my BMI showed me as overweight, he was ecstatic. He knows I lift.

    As for blood pressure, I've heard the main number to worry about is the lower one. That should be 85 or less. If you're at 74, you're golden.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Well i am obese based on their stupid charts(no one at my gym would say that), but it doesn't consider 35 years of lifting weights into their BMI equations.
    Looks we both need to cut back

    Originally Posted by Redfish225 View Post
    Mine is elevated on the first check but 10 minutes later it’s fine. They say I have white coat syndrome.
    Yes, you BP can change in minutes.

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    Just had my blood pressure taken at the doctor's office today as well, almost identical. 124/74
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I went to my General Physician ...]
    I found the problem.



    No seriously though, your heart is a ticking timebomb. Its because of lifting too much. Your heart got too big. Its why I try so hard to not get too swole. You screwed up dude. Classic mistake. You accidentally got too huge.
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    Originally Posted by eomrat View Post
    I found the problem.

    No seriously though, your heart is a ticking timebomb. Its because of lifting too much. Your heart got too big. Its why I try so hard to not get too swole. You screwed up dude. Classic mistake. You accidentally got too huge.
    Thanks for always bringing the real, EO. Hopefully a mod hasn't seen your post about swole. I don't know what the consequences are, but they can't be good. We are on to your shenanigans

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    When my doctor told me my BMI showed me as overweight, he was ecstatic. He knows I lift.
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    Your falling asleep at the wheel El, I told you and god I hope I’m wrong am just a stupid SOB, but hey I only see what I see, the writing.

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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    When my doctor told me my BMI showed me as overweight, he was ecstatic. He knows I lift.

    As for blood pressure, I've heard the main number to worry about is the lower one. That should be 85 or less. If you're at 74, you're golden.
    El, sorry I missed your post. We posted at the same time.

    Anyway, you have a great doctor. Thanks for the input.
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    My take of your post is that you know you're blood pressure is fine. You are criticizing the government's numbers. If I'm right, you weren't looking for reassurance about your BP.

    Well, according to the government's numbers, you probably consume too much meat; regulate your home heating and cooling at too high and too low of temperatures, respectively; burn too much fossil fuel; and earn more than your 'fair' share of money.
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    My take of your post is that you know you're blood pressure is fine. You are criticizing the government's numbers. If I'm right, you weren't looking for reassurance about your BP.

    Well, according to the government's numbers, you probably consume too much meat; regulate your home heating and cooling at too high and too low of temperatures, respectively; burn too much fossil fuel; and earn more than your 'fair' share of money.
    You are right on and thanks. In regard to your second paragraph, please add 'buy a Prius and go 100% solar.'
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    Originally Posted by KeepItMoving View Post
    My take of your post is that you know you're blood pressure is fine. You are criticizing the government's numbers. If I'm right, you weren't looking for reassurance about your BP.

    Well, according to the government's numbers, you probably consume too much meat; regulate your home heating and cooling at too high and too low of temperatures, respectively; burn too much fossil fuel; and earn more than your 'fair' share of money.
    Not sure why you're calling it "the government's numbers". The guidelines come from a task force formed by the American Heart Association and the American College of Cardiology that looked at a wide range of factors that relate to heart risk. Those are not some arbitrary bureaucratically imposed numbers with enforcement mechanisms, they're useful guidelines intended to be used along with other information for managing treatment. Nobody claims that they're supposed to be a single definitive definition of health or illness.

    I don't know why some people want to see a nefarious government conspiracy behind every rock and tree. Maybe it feels good, maybe you think it gets you points in your tribal rituals, but it's totally disconnected from reality, and ultimately it's bad for your blood pressure.
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    Originally Posted by ElrondHubbard View Post
    I don't know why some people want to see a nefarious government conspiracy behind every rock and tree. Maybe it feels good, maybe you think it gets you points in your tribal rituals, but it's totally disconnected from reality...
    Quite the general attack made personal. Lots of maybe's in there too.

    Fact is, your best part of this attack is the first part: "I don't know why..."

    Given how old you are and how unknowing you remain, I feel confident that you will remain mired in your confusion.
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    Originally Posted by ChazWood View Post
    From the title, I assumed surprise prostate exam.

    Like you, left disappointed.
    No, Chazzy, only because that would have negatively affected by blood pressure
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    Your blood pressure is high
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    Now.. has this helped your blood pressure?
    I'm sure there was nothing wrong with your blood pressure with that systolic reading, 122
    You're in a docs office FFS (hardly relaxing), but after being told it was high????
    a self fulfilling prophecy, if the doc says "don't worry, but..." then what's going to happen
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