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    How to negotiate salary?

    Im always afraid of the " what kind of compensation are you looking for" type questions in interveiws, b/c I start thinking im asking too much, and will get passed over for someone asking a few thousand less.
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    You need to ask enough upfront to allow for negotiation. Come in to low and you screwed.
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    First, figure out a number you want.
    Secondly, don't say a number until you know what kind of benefits, etc. they're offering

    "What kind of compensation are you looking for?"
    "I'd like to get the complete picture of the compensation package before I could determine a salary figure. What do you offer by way of insurance benefits, 401k matching, and PTO?"

    If you get passed over for someone wanting a few G's less, you didn't do a good enough job selling them on why you are worth those extra G's. That, or it's a cheap company you wouldn't want to work for anyway.
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    Originally Posted by orangetide View Post
    Im always afraid of the " what kind of compensation are you looking for" type questions in interveiws, b/c I start thinking im asking too much, and will get passed over for someone asking a few thousand less.
    OP you can't negotiate if you are entry level.
    If you have experience, ask high and if they seem reluctant point out what selling points you have.
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    Negotiate by using facts. An example of a fact would be OP is a phaggot. "I deserve x amount for my salary bc I am a phaggot." With some companies, this would actually work.
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    My philosophy is almost always counteroffer. Worst they can say no or you may be incentivized by other offerings such as bonuses and RSUs.

    Make a sound argument as well and be educated.
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    Originally Posted by sword_ View Post
    My philosophy is almost always counteroffer. Worst they can say no or you may be incentivized by other offerings such as bonuses and RSUs.

    Make a sound argument as well and be educated.
    The worse they can say is you have been rejected.

    I remember I tried that while entry level and they told me the BS that they don't want someone who is only looking for money.

    Many start ups offer stock options to lowball employees (me included) it really isn't a benefit considering that you will be getting only a few plus a lowball salary while the higher ups will be getting what you get x100 or x1000 plus a competitive salary.

    A yearly bonus isn't worth it because they can/will cancel them if things go south, I would rather take it in my salary.

    Edit: also want to add that you can really hard-ball negotiate only if you are at a decent place and don't care about getting rejected from potential job offers. Just throw high numbers and keep it there. If you don't get hired, no problem because you are already at your decent job. Just keep applying until one place takes your offer.
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    Originally Posted by joecayse View Post
    First, figure out a number you want.
    Secondly, don't say a number until you know what kind of benefits, etc. they're offering

    "What kind of compensation are you looking for?"
    "I'd like to get the complete picture of the compensation package before I could determine a salary figure. What do you offer by way of insurance benefits, 401k matching, and PTO?"

    If you get passed over for someone wanting a few G's less, you didn't do a good enough job selling them on why you are worth those extra G's. That, or it's a cheap company you wouldn't want to work for anyway.
    Also OP this is really good advice. I took way higher pay but didn't ask about benefits. Luckily I did not get screwed over, but I could have. It's important to ask this you don't want to leave your job only to realize you have to pay all insurance out of pocket.
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    i always say 'im on X amount so it will have to be an increase on that'

    then i ask what salary bracket the job falls into

    then i have a rough idea what they're offering salary wise

    then i can accept or ask for more if i feel i can wiggle some more out of them.
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    Originally Posted by Comply_or_Die View Post
    then i ask what salary bracket the job falls into
    OP if you live in CA, (the only good thing this state has done recently) is that they banned employers from asking salary history. So you aren't bound to your lower salary. Don't believe the idiots on this sub who think that removing the question is bad. You can ask whatever and if it's in or above the range and above what you make, you are benefitting.

    And you can also request pay scale from them and they have to legally provide it according to law I believe. But I haven't done this yet, so no idea what that entails.
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    You should be aware of the going rate for that type of position through published salary guides, online sites like glassdoor, etc. And then if you're asking for the higher range, you should be ready to sell the value you'll add for that additional monies


    I negotiated a salary increase last year for an internal hop between operating companies and came prepared with published inflation rates since my year of hire and salary ranges from a local salary report. And I sent out two applications before even going into the negotiations so I knew I wasn't bullchitting and would be gearing up to leave if things didn't go well


    Spoiler: Things went well and I left anyways, brought my base salary up legit 50% last year by making calculated moves like this
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    Originally Posted by Destor View Post
    And I sent out two applications before even going into the negotiations so I knew I wasn't bullchitting and would be gearing up to leave if things didn't go well

    Spoiler: Things went well and I left anyways, brought my base salary up legit 50% last year by making calculated moves like this
    OP you could do this too except I tried to negotiate a raise at a company I was working for, but that didn't work out because they told me that I was getting paid extremely well... Lo and behold I got a 30% raise by getting hired at a different company.

    Try it out like the 2 of us, you should get good results. Just don't quit then look for a job since you will have no leverage.
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    OP just so you know if you tried to negotiate with me I would laugh at you and deny you the job on the spot
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