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    Question Which member of Congress is most like Abraham Lincoln?

    Jim Jordan? To me, definitely Jim Jordan or if not, Ted Cruz.
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    There is no one in congress wanting to send blacks back to africa.
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    Originally Posted by SteveSanders View Post
    There is no one in congress wanting to send blacks back to africa.
    But there are members who want to send illegal aliens back to where they came from.
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    Jim Jordan? To me, definitely Jim Jordan or if not, Ted Cruz.
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    Ted Cruz isn’t man enough to stand up for his own wife, not to mention stand up for the entire American nation like Lincoln did.
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    Originally Posted by BalkanPrince View Post
    Ted Cruz isn’t man enough to stand up for his own wife, not to mention stand up for the entire American nation like Lincoln did.
    What specifically are you referring to that Lincoln did to stand up for America?
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    Ted Cruz isn’t man enough to stand up for his own wife, not to mention stand up for the entire American nation like Lincoln did.
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    Jim Jordan? To me, definitely Jim Jordan or if not, Ted Cruz.
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    Originally Posted by caravanbrah View Post
    Dan Crenshaw got shot so they have that in common.
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    How so?
    Person who advocates for unity over divisiveness.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Person who advocates for unity over divisiveness.
    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races"

    - Abe Lincoln (while running for US Senate)

    He went on to say that he also opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites.

    Kind of weird thing to admire about him, and even more strange to brag about Tulsi emulating those traits.
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    Originally Posted by 401Delta View Post
    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races"

    - Abe Lincoln (while running for US Senate)

    He went on to say that he also opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites.

    Kind of weird thing to admire about him, and even more strange to brag about Tulsi emulating those traits.
    I didn't say he was a saint. I just think he had some good views about unifying the country and so does Tulsi.

    Lincoln also changed his views after meeting Douglass, much like Tulsi changed her view on LGBT after serving alongside LGBT members in war.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I didn't say he was a saint. I just think he had some good views about unifying the country and so does Tulsi.

    Lincoln also changed his views after meeting Douglass, much like Tulsi changed her view on LGBT after serving alongside LGBT members in war.
    Yes, he did change some of his views, but even just before his death he wanted to send all freed slaves to Liberia. Why didn't he want them 'united' with the rest of the people here?

    For political reasons? Moral reasons?
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I didn't say he was a saint. I just think he had some good views about unifying the country and so does Tulsi.

    Lincoln also changed his views after meeting Douglass, much like Tulsi changed her view on LGBT after serving alongside LGBT members in war.
    Tulsi didn't change chit.

    pro-LGBT was not a popular stance among even most Democrats pre-2010.

    After it started gaining popularity and prominence you had all these Democrat politicians come out and do a 180 on the issue and pretend they all had some profound, touching experience that helped change their minds on the topic during the exact same time period.

    Yeah right, it's all about the votes and getting elected. Tulsi is no exception to this rule. Dems will change their views to adopt what is popular with their base at the time as will Republicans.
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    I don't recall any current members of congress wanting to recolonize blacks back to Africa like Lincoln.
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    Originally Posted by 401Delta View Post
    Yes, he did change some of his views, but even just before his death he wanted to send all freed slaves to Liberia. Why didn't he want them 'united' with the rest of the people here?

    For political reasons? Moral reasons?
    I can't speak for Lincoln, but my guess is he did not believe there would ever be a way for people to properly get along after the whole slavery thing.
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    Tulsi didn't change chit.

    pro-LGBT was not a popular stance among even most Democrats pre-2010.

    After it started gaining popularity and prominence you had all these Democrat politicians come out and do a 180 on the issue and pretend they all had some profound, touching experience that helped change their minds on the topic during the exact same time period.

    Yeah right, it's all about the votes and getting elected. Tulsi is no exception to this rule. Dems will change their views to adopt what is popular with their base at the time as will Republicans.
    Well Tulsi has also been consistently in support of LGBT rights on her voting record as well. Fascinating that a non US citizen has such an interest in our politics. I can't even tell you how the government of Canada is structured lol.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    i can't speak for lincoln, but my guess is he did not believe there would ever be a way for people to properly get along after the whole slavery thing.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Well Tulsi has also been consistently in support of LGBT rights on her voting record as well. Fascinating that a non US citizen has such an interest in our politics. I can't even tell you how the government of Canada is structured lol.
    Classic cope.

    "HURR DUR UR NOT EVEN FROM HERE!"

    You fell hook line and sinker for a politician's PR front to justify her adapting her public stance on a social issue to meet modern standards.

    You're generally pretty aware of these things, but guess you're a bit more vulnerable to Tulsi propaganda. You can't actually believe a woman who worked for an anti-gay organization that promoted conversion therapy is now sincerely pro-LGBT because she supposedly did some "soul-searching" and started voting along with the rest of her party for pro-gay bills after it became a popular stance?

    That's like believing Trump is actually religious or cares about "god" all of sudden once he started running for office as Republican. "But you should see that pro-Christian billed he passed bro, he clearly believes in Christ!"

    It's easy for Tulsi to seem like some sort of martyr or wholesome politician when she's polling a 1%. If she ever got any substantial support and donors started coming her way she would sell out just as fast as the next politician.
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    Classic cope.

    "HURR DUR UR NOT EVEN FROM HERE!"

    You fell hook line and sinker for a politician's PR front to justify her adapting her public stance on a social issue to meet modern standards.

    You're generally pretty aware of these things, but guess you're a bit more vulnerable to Tulsi propaganda. You can't actually believe a woman who worked for an anti-gay organization that promoted conversion therapy is now sincerely pro-LGBT because she supposedly did some "soul-searching" and started voting along with the rest of her party for pro-gay bills after it became a popular stance?

    That's like believing Trump is actually religious or cares about "god" all of sudden once he started running for office as Republican. "But you should see that pro-Christian billed he passed bro, he clearly believes in Christ!"

    It's easy for Tulsi to seem like some sort of martyr or wholesome politician when she's polling a 1%. If she ever got any substantial support and donors started coming her way she would sell out just as fast as the next politician.
    I believe her voting record speaks for itself. I don't think she would. She is not like most politicians. She reminds me of Ron Paul. I believe she believes what she says. Obviously, you can never fully trust anyone, but I trust her a lot more than most other candidates and politicians. I think she is one of the good ones. I think her calling out the MIC, including the CIA, shows that she is willing to martyr herself for this.

    The reason she cares so much about foreign policy is obvious. Hawaii stands to be ground zero for the initial assaults.
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