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    Migrant Who Attempted to Set Bus of Children on Fire Blames Salvini

    Ousseynou Sy, who attempted to light a bus on fire containing 50 children in March to protest the deaths of migrants in the Mediterranean sea, claimed in court that he was not a terrorist and that Senator Salvini was responsible for deaths of migrants in the Mediterranean, il Giornale reports.
    “I hope that justice will also be done for us Africans. I, too, am a child of Africa, that Africa that you know very well, that has seen its children stripped of human dignity, of every right to serenity, happiness, even today,” Sy added.

    Salvini replied to the comments stating: “I await the learned comments of newspapers, intellectuals, and various claims. At least someone will agree with this delinquent, shall we bet?”

    The attempted attack by Sy in March saw no children injured thanks to swift action by Italian police to ram it off the road and allowed the children to escape.

    “He handcuffed us and threatened us. He said that if we moved, he would pour gasoline and light the fire. He kept saying that people in Africa die and the fault is Di Maio’s and Salvini’s. Then the carabinieri [police] saved us,” one of the children told police at the time.

    Only days after the attack, Sy told Italian magistrates he had no regrets, saying: “Repent? No repentance. It was something I had to do, and I would do it again. A Hundred times. Why did I do that? To send a signal to Africa. Africans have to stay in Africa.”
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    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions. Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars. I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult
    Shut up idiot.

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions.
    Who is syrian or iraqi in this discussion?


    Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars.
    Yes and no. Yes take up your war concerns with bankers/elites. The refugee crisis as you say is mostly young able bodied males who left women and children behind because they are coward losers.

    I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
    I'm not interested in killing anyone. Could you be any dumber?

    As for syrians

    The Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad called on refugees living abroad to return to their country, ignore what rumours about threats of their arrest, and cut the way for the sponsors of terrorism who attempt to make use of the refugees’ card.

    Al-Assad said in his speech on Sunday that “the Syrian state is working to return every refugee and displaced who left his home because of terrorism since this return is the only way to end their suffering.”

    He added that the countries involved in the file of refugees are hindering their return and that the primary basis of the planned scheme for Syria is the issue of refugees, which had been prepared before the beginning of the crisis.
    But your liberal media will never report the truth or push this idea.



    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...r-own-country/

    Just lol at western media owned by the top 1%

    Assad urged Syrian refugees to come home. Many are being welcomed with arrest and interrogation.

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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions. Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars. I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
    Stop it with this BS.

    Pretty much nobody here that is against refugee intake is also pro conflict in the Middle East.

    While you keep incorrectly labelling everyone a Nazi the irony is you don't even know actual white nationalists are some of the strongest isolationists. Establishing an ethnostate within their borders with "their" people is all they care about. They have many disgusting views, but they are not pro blowing up all brown people in the Middle East so your dumb strawman accusations look even dumber.

    Can you stop spazzing out like a retard for one minute and stop accusing everyone that doesn't support your big government, pro mass immigration world view a pro-war WN?

    Expected better from a supposed "intellectual."
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions. Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars. I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
    They should go to other countries in the Middle East

    Saudi could take a few million

    They dont want to assimilate so why come here

    We are full anyway
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    I'm saying if we wanted to avoid immigration crises, a good first step would have been to not destabilize the governments of those countries. Imagine if we hadn't fuked with South America so much. We probably wouldn't have had such severe immigration problems. Same holds for the Middle East and Africa. Europe and the US have a long history of fuking with these countries, and the price is their people will flee to your country lmao. Now u get to deal with it.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I'm saying if we wanted to avoid immigration crises, a good first step would have been to not destabilize the governments of those countries. Imagine if we hadn't fuked with South America so much. We probably wouldn't have had such severe immigration problems. Same holds for the Middle East and Africa. Europe and the US have a long history of fuking with these countries, and the price is their people will flee to your country lmao. Now u get to deal with it.
    We get to deal with what a bunch of sicko elites cause? Also in case you haven't noticed very little are refugees but rather economic migrants.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I'm saying if we wanted to avoid immigration crises, a good first step would have been to not destabilize the governments of those countries. Imagine if we hadn't fuked with South America so much. We probably wouldn't have had such severe immigration problems. Same holds for the Middle East and Africa. Europe and the US have a long history of fuking with these countries, and the price is their people will flee to your country lmao. Now u get to deal with it.
    Immigration hurts those countries just as much as anything the US did down there.

    Be Mexico
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    Deal with decades of corruption and crime
    Act surprised and blame Americans
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    Originally Posted by SteveSanders View Post
    We get to deal with what a bunch of sicko elites cause? Also in case you haven't noticed very little are refugees but rather economic migrants.
    Yeah if u don't like it, u can always vote for someone else.
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    Immigration hurts those countries just as much as anything the US did down there.

    Be Mexico
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    Deal with decades of corruption and crime
    Act surprised and blame Americans
    Be Mexico.

    Have the CIA deliberately exploit and undermine your government to keep fruit prices down.

    Sounds about right. You don't like it? STOP VOTING FOR EVIL PEOPLE.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    I'm saying if we wanted to avoid immigration crises, a good first step would have been to not destabilize the governments of those countries. Imagine if we hadn't fuked with South America so much. We probably wouldn't have had such severe immigration problems. Same holds for the Middle East and Africa. Europe and the US have a long history of fuking with these countries, and the price is their people will flee to your country lmao. Now u get to deal with it.
    What a stupid fukking argument, man.

    Dear citizens, eat the schit your government has sown. Fukk you, dude. Die a bitter virgin, seriously.

    As a corollary, you are a bitter virgin loser because of your own output. Now reap it, maggot, while you cry about "sloots" and their degeneracy. That's YOUR fault. Phaggot.
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    Yeah if u don't like it, u can always vote for someone else.
    You shouldn't be able to vote for hurting other people. If the forum votes to take everything from wincel that wouldn't make it right. You can't vote for things that hurt others. It's unreasonable and it's unconstitutional.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Be Mexico.

    Have the CIA deliberately exploit and undermine your government to keep fruit prices down.

    Sounds about right. You don't like it? STOP VOTING FOR EVIL PEOPLE.
    No disagreement there. We shouldn't be interfering with people in general. Perhaps in a few special circumstances, if they are harming us, but certainly not to benefit a few special interests, fruit companies in this case.

    That applies to everything though, literally everything. People are benefiting from mass immigration and want more of it. A few special interests. It hurts average folks here and abroad while the rich and powerful gain more than ever before.
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    What a stupid fukking argument, man.

    Dear citizens, eat the schit your government has sown. Fukk you, dude. Die a bitter virgin, seriously.

    As a corollary, you are a bitter virgin loser because of your own output. Now reap it, maggot, while you cry about "sloots" and their degeneracy. That's YOUR fault. Phaggot.
    LMAO bro u guys go out and vote for terrible people like Clinton, Bush, etc. Now you vote Trump or Biden over someone like Tulsi. Just fuking lol. Don't complain about the consequence of a failed foreign policy when you vote in this evil scum. You reap what you sow, son. You can't go destabilize regimes and expect zero consequences. There is always, what Ron Paul called, "blowback".

    u so triggered because u realize now it was your own damn fault

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    You shouldn't be able to vote for hurting other people. If the forum votes to take everything from wincel that wouldn't make it right. You can't vote for things that hurt others. It's unreasonable and it's unconstitutional.
    And yet they do. They literally do. We have people who support our military's actions wholeheartedly and cheerlead wars.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Be Mexico.

    Have the CIA deliberately exploit and undermine your government to keep fruit prices down.

    Sounds about right. You don't like it? STOP VOTING FOR EVIL PEOPLE.
    There are plenty of examples of the U.S. and other western countries unnecessarily meddling in and causing disruption in the affairs of other nations, but that is not the main reason they are all chitholes.

    The U.S. literally nuked Japan twice and they are now one of the most successful nations in the world. That is not to justify those reprehensible actions, but the well-being and overall prosperity of a nation is much more closely correlated to culture and national corruption/incompetency than foreign intervention in the long-run.

    Would the Middle East and other 3rd world countries be better off without the U.S. waging war there? Absolutely. But would they have suddenly transformed into a some great prosperous land otherwise? No, it would still be a chithole and their people would still want to immigrate to the western world in large numbers due to the immeasurably higher living standards and quality of life.

    I agree with much of what you are saying regarding wars and exploitation of other nations, but you need to drop this flawed notion that somehow a majority of the blame for the failures and pitfalls of the developing world can be laid at the feet of the U.S.
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    There are plenty of examples of the U.S. and other western countries unnecessarily meddling in and causing disruption in the affairs of other nations, but that is not the main reason they are all chitholes.

    The U.S. literally nuked Japan twice and they are now one of the most successful nations in the world. That is not to justify those reprehensible actions, but the well-being and overall prosperity of a nation is much more closely correlated to culture and national corruption/incompetency than foreign intervention in the long-run.

    Would the Middle East and other 3rd world countries be better off without the U.S. waging war there? Absolutely. But would they have suddenly transformed into a some great prosperous land otherwise? No, it would still be a chithole and their people would still want to immigrate to the western world in large numbers due to the immeasurably higher living standards and quality of life.

    I agree with much of what you are saying regarding wars and exploitation of other nations, but you need to drop this flawed notion that somehow a majority of the blame for the failures and pitfalls of the developing world can be laid at the feet of the U.S.
    More people died due to our meddling in the other nations than died in Japan, guy. It would have been very prosperous and it was. I suggest you look at what Iraq and Afghanistan were like in the 50s.

    It literally is our fault. It's a tough pill to swallow, but the US, specifically the CIA, has caused so much chaos and conflict all over the world in the name of American selfishness and greed. We are now seeing the consequences of Kissinger's murderous evil all over the world. "Realpolitik" my ass. America first, my ass. These people put themselves first and jeopardized America's future and security. All so we can have an economy propped by blood, and then they can pretend they did right by us. Bullchit.
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    And yet they do. They literally do. We have people who support our military's actions wholeheartedly and cheerlead wars.
    No doubt about that. It seems that we are in agreement on most important things but are coming to different conclusions for some reason.

    My stance is that we shouldn't be harming people against their will. Doing so is wrong. I have a whole thing about direct and indirect harm, here I'm only referring to directly harming people, taking their land, flooding their country, etc.

    Our government shouldn't be giving to a select few, fruit companies in your earlier example, and hurting others to do so. It not only hurt those countries but, as you pointed out, it hurt Americans because millions of folks fled up here to get away from the nonsense and it hurt the people there by first attacking them and then causing a drain of millions of good hardworking folks.

    The issue is that this is even happening to begin with. It's unconstitutional to hurt others. It's unconstitutional to give special benefits to a few while everyone else suffers. That isn't how the country was supposed to work and it should be called out and stopped.

    Your arguments, I've read a lot of your posts, are misguided. I don't know if it's partisanship or propaganda or what but lots of what you say is silly. I don't think anyone here believes that we should be attacking Middle Eastern countries for whoever (no anti-Semitism here no ban mods) or messing with countries south of us to benefit a few special interests. None of us gained from those things but all of us have been hurt by the consequences of those actions, mass immigration, terrorism, etc.

    So really I don't know what you're arguing half of the time. We're all generally on the same page, or we should be, but you keep attacking people for no good reason. Again, partisanship, propagandized thoughts, I'm not sure but that shouldn't be happening.
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    More people died due to our meddling in the other nations than died in Japan, guy. It would have been very prosperous and it was. I suggest you look at what Iraq and Afghanistan were like in the 50s.

    It literally is our fault. It's a tough pill to swallow, but the US, specifically the CIA, has caused so much chaos and conflict all over the world in the name of American selfishness and greed. We are now seeing the consequences of Kissinger's murderous evil all over the world. "Realpolitik" my ass. America first, my ass. These people put themselves first and jeopardized America's future and security. All so we can have an economy propped by blood, and then they can pretend they did right by us. Bullchit.
    Just lol post up what Iraq and Afghanistan were like in the 50s, even then do they not have able bodied men fighting? or do they just flee to the west?. Furthermore Europe went through brutal wars but still rebuilt much like Japan. Strong cope, how beta are you?

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    No doubt about that. It seems that we are in agreement on most important things but are coming to different conclusions for some reason.

    My stance is that we shouldn't be harming people against their will. Doing so is wrong. I have a whole thing about direct and indirect harm, here I'm only referring to directly harming people, taking their land, flooding their country, etc.

    Our government shouldn't be giving to a select few, fruit companies in your earlier example, and hurting others to do so. It not only hurt those countries but, as you pointed out, it hurt Americans because millions of folks fled up here to get away from the nonsense and it hurt the people there by first attacking them and then causing a drain of millions of good hardworking folks.

    The issue is that this is even happening to begin with. It's unconstitutional to hurt others. It's unconstitutional to give special benefits to a few while everyone else suffers. That isn't how the country was supposed to work and it should be called out and stopped.

    Your arguments, I've read a lot of your posts, are misguided. I don't know if it's partisanship or propaganda or what but lots of what you say is silly. I don't think anyone here believes that we should be attacking Middle Eastern countries for whoever (no anti-Semitism here no ban mods) or messing with countries south of us to benefit a few special interests. None of us gained from those things but all of us have been hurt by the consequences of those actions, mass immigration, terrorism, etc.

    So really I don't know what you're arguing half of the time. We're all generally on the same page, or we should be, but you keep attacking people for no good reason. Again, partisanship, propagandized thoughts, I'm not sure but that shouldn't be happening.
    Read the posts dude. There are people who cheer for the wars.
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    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions. Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars. I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
    Here’s a crazier thought, stop posting.

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    lol this forum has literally turned into a propaganda wing of a white nationalist cult

    Hey bud. Here's a really crazy thought. If you hate Syrian and Iraqi refugees, maybe don't advocate for military actions in those regions. Crazy, I know, but think about it. There wouldn't be a refugee crisis if we didn't wage these stupid wars. I know that goes against your pleasure of killing brown people, but if you could just think about it for five seconds, you'd realize that these wars served no purpose, and you created the very problems you are now crying about.
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    Originally Posted by KE19 View Post
    There are plenty of examples of the U.S. and other western countries unnecessarily meddling in and causing disruption in the affairs of other nations, but that is not the main reason they are all chitholes.

    The U.S. literally nuked Japan twice and they are now one of the most successful nations in the world. That is not to justify those reprehensible actions, but the well-being and overall prosperity of a nation is much more closely correlated to culture and national corruption/incompetency than foreign intervention in the long-run.

    Would the Middle East and other 3rd world countries be better off without the U.S. waging war there? Absolutely. But would they have suddenly transformed into a some great prosperous land otherwise? No, it would still be a chithole and their people would still want to immigrate to the western world in large numbers due to the immeasurably higher living standards and quality of life.

    I agree with much of what you are saying regarding wars and exploitation of other nations, but you need to drop this flawed notion that somehow a majority of the blame for the failures and pitfalls of the developing world can be laid at the feet of the U.S.
    People forget that Iran in the 60s and 70s was won of the most modernized countries in the world. Yes the Shah did have support from the US government. But it literally all turned to chit when Ayatollah took over and a whole bunch of other internal conflicts. Then they took Americans hostage. You can't really blame America for that. Saddam had been killing his own people for decades and starting wars in the middle east, but likely his death created a vacuum in which terrorists could prosper. There's been instances where America has had self-serving ambitions no doubt but I think America gets unfair blame for having to police the world when asked for it where as other countries are on the fence about it, criticize America for it but yet do nothing or even worse silently support it while criticizing it in open air.

    War sucks, but to blame America for everything wrong around the world is disingenuous. It's not like these countries would have magically turned into 1st world societies without American interference. Alot of the internal strife that some of these countries faced sort of brought in American interference, for better or for worse.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    More people died due to our meddling in the other nations than died in Japan, guy. It would have been very prosperous and it was. I suggest you look at what Iraq and Afghanistan were like in the 50s.

    It literally is our fault. It's a tough pill to swallow, but the US, specifically the CIA, has caused so much chaos and conflict all over the world in the name of American selfishness and greed. We are now seeing the consequences of Kissinger's murderous evil all over the world. "Realpolitik" my ass. America first, my ass. These people put themselves first and jeopardized America's future and security. All so we can have an economy propped by blood, and then they can pretend they did right by us. Bullchit.
    Do you even know the history of what happened in Afghanistan? In 1978 the prime-minister was assassinated by an Afghan communist party. The communist party then had some infighting within themselves. At the same time this was happening more conservative islamic groups like the Mujahideen saw this as an opportunity to revolt and oppose Soviet influence. Which then sets the stage for a Soviet invasion. Somewhere in between that an American ambassador was killed and a whole bunch of leadership changes. Then in the late 80s the Mujahideen who would later become members of the Taliban started receiving arms from US, Britain and other countries. This would later prove to be a mistake however this was well after all the assassinations, revolting, leadership changes, invasions and internal conflicts. In between the late 80s to the invasion of Afghanistan in the 2000s even after a peace treaty was signed, there were still alot of internal conflicts, wars and widespread poverty and famine within the country.

    Yes America might have partial blame for this but that country was already fuked way before intervention. I know you're not that stupid to think that it is literally "our fault"
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    Originally Posted by Vito-C View Post
    Here’s a crazier thought, stop posting.

    And leave America rat boy.
    what a constructive post

    bet u are trying to bait me into insulting you so everyone's fav mod can show up to ban me

    it won't work

    I will keep posting, and if u want me to leave america, come force me out or pay for my move and place elsewhere. If you want to buy me a ticket to switzerland + get me citizenship+pay my room and board, that would be awesome. Otherwise, you can stfu.
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    Originally Posted by dazitmayn View Post
    Do you even know the history of what happened in Afghanistan? In 1978 the prime-minister was assassinated by an Afghan communist party. The communist party then had some infighting within themselves. At the same time this was happening more conservative islamic groups like the Mujahideen saw this as an opportunity to revolt and oppose Soviet influence. Which then sets the stage for a Soviet invasion. Somewhere in between that an American ambassador was killed and a whole bunch of leadership changes. Then in the late 80s the Mujahideen who would later become members of the Taliban started receiving arms from US, Britain and other countries. This would later prove to be a mistake however this was well after all the assassinations, revolting, leadership changes, invasions and internal conflicts. In between the late 80s to the invasion of Afghanistan in the 2000s even after a peace treaty was signed, there were still alot of internal conflicts, wars and widespread poverty and famine within the country.

    Yes America might have partial blame for this but that country was already fuked way before intervention. I know you're not that stupid to think that it is literally "our fault"
    Yeah. Do you know why? Russia meddled and interfered with their govt. It was our fault + Russia's fault. They were doing fine, and even fairly progressive compared to today. They had female doctors ffs. They were not like this in the 60's. You guys don't understand what even one generation of war can do to a nation. And you're only focusing on Afghanistan, when the main source of the refugee issue is from Iraq and Syria bro.
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