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    Congress Agrees Space Force; 2020 NDAA Vote Next Week

    Glad this is moving forward, we don't need to stall on our defense initiatives any longer. I hope both the House & Senate are ready for the huge investment we're going to need to make to prepare our military for the next century. Looks like our government is on board with the idea of officially weaponizing space and providing space-based defenses too. Space Force, here we come!

    Looks like Space Force is going to be a component of the US Air Force for the time being, similar to how the USMC falls under the USN.

    Congress Agrees Space Force; 2020 NDAA Vote Next Week
    REAGAN NATIONAL DEFENSE FORUM: Secretary of Defense Mark Esper thanked Congress today for approving the Space Force in the fiscal 2020 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), with the bill expected to come to a vote next week.

    “It was essential that this year’s NDAA fully authorize the creation of a Space Force as the sixth branch of the armed forces,” Esper told the annual Reagan National Defense Forum. “And I want to personally thank Congress for doing that.”


    The House, Senate and the White House have struck a deal that will establish a Space Force, Rep. Mike Rogers told a panel here today.

    Under the deal, the Democrats in Congress okayed the force as a sixth branch of the military in exchange for acquiescence by the Republicans to providing 12 weeks of paid maternity leave for federal workers.

    Rogers, one of the original authors of the House’s effort two years ago to create a new military structure for space, said that the Congress “will be signing out” the final NDAA text on Monday with voting to follow. According to insiders, the House vote is slated for this coming Wednesday.

    “The hay’s not in the barn, but it’s real close to the barn door,” he said.

    The organizational shape of the Space Force will be somewhere between the House and Senate versions of the NDAA, but more along the lines of the House, sources close to the Hill told Breaking D. That is, it will be underneath the Air Force, in a manner similar to that of the Marine Corps’s relationship to the Navy. And at least for the near-term, only Air Force personnel would be involved — as opposed to the Pentagon’s plan to begin right away to move Army and Navy personnel as well over to the new force.

    “It is important the the Air Force get on the case for space,” Barbara Barrett, in one of her first public appearances since her appointment, told the forum. She said that work has been ongoing for sometime by a “war room” of senior officials to scope the initial force structure and costs. She declined to give details though, saying that the service needs to wait for the final NDAA language to be sure what is being asked of it.

    Maj. Gen. Clinton E. Crosier, who is in charge of the Air Force planning process for the Space Force, told Breaking D yesterday during the West Coast Aerospace Forum in Santa Monica that while they haven’t been able to talk much about it, the service already has put together detailed alternate plans — based on possible outcomes from the NDAA — for how to stand up the Space Force “from day one.”

    “Our primary planning directive has been: execute all necessary planning to preserve the opportunity to rapidly stand up if authorized. So we are doing a wide scope of planning trying to get more and more narrow as we get more clarity,” he said. “But we’re going to be ready to respond to whatever the language says.”

    Barrett said the Space Force will need to focus on both how to protect current national security space assets and ensure that the overall architecture fulfills the future needs of the warfighters on the ground.

    “We have to be able to defend what we have there that we count on,” she said. “We need to replace the things that are there that require external defense — put things in space that themselves can be defended. And then we need to be able to use space as an enabler for warfighters in other domains.”

    But Kathleen Hicks, former principal deputy undersecretary of Defense for policy, said that the next crucial step is for the Space Force and Space Command to figure out what exactly is the mission the US is trying to accomplish in space. She bemoaned the fact that while the debate about the structure of the Space Force has been necessary, there has been little real, in depth thinking about the mission set — which must be determined before attention can be turned to what capabilities are required.

    Hicks is not alone in her concerns. Similar questions were raised, for example, in a July study by the Aerospace Corporation called “What Place for Space: Competing Schools of Operational Thought in Space.” And indeed, a number of experts have said that critical to success for the new unified Space Command, led by Air Force Gen. Jay Raymond, and the new Space Force — which also is likely to be headed by Raymond at least at first — will be development of strategy, policy and doctrine.

    Rogers, for his part, said that his primary concern over the next year as Congress exercises its oversight functions over the new force will be ensuring against “bureaucratic acquisition mission creep.” He stressed the the Space Force has to be a “lean, agile acquisition system.”

    UPDATE BEGINS. Democratic Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) Adam Smith, who led the NDAA negotiations, concurred that ensuring that the Space Force doesn’t bloat over time will be a key focus for the HASC.

    “The biggest concern is maximize efficiency, minimize the amount of money spent,” Smith told reporters after the forum finished. “We don’t need to create a whole bunch more positions. It’s really a matter of realigning the priorities.”

    “You’ll see the details when they come out,” Smith said, but stressed that “we worked in a bipartisan way to try to keep that stuff under control.”
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    I really like this.

    NASA is ineffective and limp dicked. It's gotten so bad that they had to resort to running away from space launches and turning to foreign countries to take our astronauts to space. Their resident scientists play politics more than science, their whole org is a **** can. And then you see NASA dicking around too much looking for ice cubes and ****. They are a far cry from what they once were.


    A Space Force can focus on practical applications. Developing new propulsion systems for interplanetary military spaceships, projecting american force in space..... so we can do things like secure asteroids for commercial interests/mining, etc.
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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    I really like this.

    NASA is ineffective and dicking around too much with "scientific" missions looking for ice cubes and ****. They are a far cry from what they once were.

    A Space Force can focus on practical applications. Developing new propulsion systems for interplanetary military spaceships, projecting american force in space..... so we can do things like secure asteroids for commercial interests/mining, etc.
    It's not the most ideal scenario but if the military helps increase our investment into Outer Space, then I'm for it! China's left us no choice really, it's kind of refreshing to have a country to keep us on our toes and make us more competitive, the world kind of got stale after the fall of the Soviet Union. Hoping for a space race between the US, EU, & China to put the first human on Mars.
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    This is a good thing.

    Especially after watching these videos and listing to the Navy Pilot on Joe Rogans podcast.

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    A more in depth article.

    Cautious Congress Makes Space Force AFSPC In All But Name
    WASHINGTON: The new Space Force will be led by a Chief of Space Operations (CSO) who will serve under the Air Force and sit on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, mandates the new NDAA approved late last night.

    The Marine Corps-like structure follows the language put forward by the House in its version of the NDAA.

    “The legislation has all the things you need for an independent military service: its own budget authority, its own personnel system, its own acquisition authority, and a seat on the Joint Chiefs,” says Todd Harrison, a space expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

    However, reflecting the deep concern in the Senate and among many House Democrats about the costs and concept of the Space Force, the bill also includes a number of provisions designed to allow Congress to keep a tight hold on the formation of the new service and its budget.

    First of all, the Space Force CSO — who for the first year can be double-hatted by the head of US Space Command Gen. Jay Raymond — is required to report to Congress every 60 days about implementation until 2023. As Breaking D readers know, the Pentagon had recommended that Raymond, who currently also serves as head of Air Force Space Command, also take over the helm of the Space Force — at least through the initial transition period.

    Second, the new Space Force will be made up only of Air Force personnel who are transferred; no new billets are authorized in order to: “minimize cost and bureaucracy.”

    “I think the success of the Space Force will now depend on how effective Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is at making sure the other services transfer all of their space organizations and personnel to the Space Force in the coming years,” Harrison told Breaking D. “The last thing we want is to end up with four Space Forces, like how we ended up with four Air Forces after the National Security Act of 1947.”

    Bottom line: the Space Force will in essence be a renamed Air Force Space Command (AFSPC) unless and until Congress moves to allow personnel from the other services to be re-assigned. Indeed, the bill limits spending on the Space Force in 2020 to the $72.4 million requested by the Pentagon for the standup.

    Third, the NDAA takes language from the Senate version to create a new assistant secretary of the Air Force for space acquisition and integration, who will “serve as the space architect” and senior space acquisition executive in the Pentagon. The space architect takes over all space programs now managed by Air Force acquisition czar Will Roper in 2022. The office also will oversee the Space Rapid Capabilities Office, the (Air Force’s) Space and Missile Systems Center and the the Space Development Agency.

    The bill language charges the office to:
    • Provide a renewed focus on the acquisition of space systems as the chair of the Space Force Acquisition Council, ensuring integration across the national security space enterprise;
    • Synchronize with the Air Force Service Acquisition Executive on all space system efforts, and take on those responsibilities for space systems and programs effective on Oct. 1, 2022; and
    • Oversee and direct the Space and Missile Systems Center, Space Rapid Capabilities Office, and Space Development Agency.
    The assistant secretary further will chair a newly developed Space Force Acquisition Council that will report directly to the Air Force Secretary. The council also will include the Air Force undersecretary, a newly created assistant secretary of Defense for Space Policy, the director of the National Reconnaissance Office, the Space Force CSO and the head of Space Command.

    According to the conference report, “The Council shall oversee, direct, and manage acquisition and integration of the Air Force for space systems and programs in order to ensure integration across the national security space enterprise.” It further must report to Congress every year through 2025.

    The new assistant secretary for Space Policy is mandated as the senior civilian in charge of “space warfighting.” Currently, the senior civilian space policy post is held by Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space Policy Steve Kitay. That new office also is instructed to immediately contract a federally funded research and development center (FFRDC) to recommend whether the office should fold in “elements on space currently assigned to the office of the undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence or the Military Intelligence Program.

    “The more interesting but less important question,” joked Harrison, is “does the fact that Congress named the head of the Space Force the Chief of Space Operations (like the Chief of Naval Operations) mean that Congress is implicitly endorsing a naval rank structure for the Space Force?”

    And then, of course, comes the question of new uniforms.
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    imagine the innovations that would come from a modern space race
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    imagine the innovations that would come from a modern space race
    Exactly. The same way the internet was created, we'll probably stumble upon something else great. Or skynet?
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    Originally Posted by BullittEV View Post
    Exactly. The same way the internet was created, we'll probably stumble upon something else great. Or skynet?
    Because of China's heavy emphasis on using AI in the future for military applications, this is undoubtedly the path we are going to be forced to go down.

    Mass AI Aerial Drone Swarms
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    It may sound ridiculous but this is the reality that military planners are looking ahead to within the next 10-20 years. It's far cheaper to put a bunch of unmanned, low cost weapon systems in those domains than it is to put manned assets.

    It costs us over $2.8-$3.2 BILLION for a new Virginia Class Fast Attack Sub or $13 BILLION for a new Ford Class Carrier (not including the +$1 BILLION in air assets on its flight deck).

    Can you imagine how many unmanned underwater drones with a 6-mo to 1-year lifespan we can put into the ocean for $3,200,000,000 or $13,000,000,000? You could send a whole swarm of them at a Carrier group with minimal losses. Couple a swarm of underwater drones with aerial drone swarms released from a larger aircraft, and a CVW would be overwhelmed. You could destroy all of the $80+ million F-35s on the flight deck, and cripple the propulsion system/communications/radar/bridge of a carrier, then go after its escorts.

    Or what about relatively inexpensive miniature hunter/killer satellites released from a larger satellite that can disable or bring down $1,000,000,000 spy satellites without going kinetic? That's another worry.

    It's a scary reality we are approaching.
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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    I really like this.

    NASA is ineffective and limp dicked. It's gotten so bad that they had to resort to running away from space launches and turning to foreign countries to take our astronauts to space. Their resident scientists play politics more than science, their whole org is a **** can. And then you see NASA dicking around too much looking for ice cubes and ****. They are a far cry from what they once were.


    A Space Force can focus on practical applications. Developing new propulsion systems for interplanetary military spaceships, projecting american force in space..... so we can do things like secure asteroids for commercial interests/mining, etc.
    NASA has important things to worry about

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