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    Lamar Jackson still can’t throw for 200 yards lmao

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    Could he be the first "run first" quarterback to win a superbowl? We'll see. Russel Wilson is a throw first quarterback that can run if needed, same as Steve young, Elway, rodgers . Or will he be another RG3, Kapernick, Vince young, vick, ect..

    Alot of run first quarterbacks had short careers, especially if they didn't learn how to throw and read defenses. Seems like maybe lamar can read a defense, but the arm mechanics look wierd. I've only seen 2 games of him. His coaching eventually in the next 2-3 years will coach him to run less to avoid injuries, meaning that he'll never have the open looks as he does right now due him being such a running threat.
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    So you're just gonna ignore the 3 td passes? So I guess by your definition, Russell Wilson had a better game since he threw for over 200 yards, regardless of 0 tds, 1 int and a loss.
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    Originally Posted by 1hardgainer View Post
    So you're just gonna ignore the 3 td passes? So I guess by your definition, Russell Wilson had a better game since he threw for over 200 yards, regardless of 0 tds, 1 int and a loss.
    I never said he wasn't having a good season, or that he's trash. It's just a very small sample size. Wilson is proven hall of fame caliber qb. I"m a niner fan, I went through this with kapernick. Panther fans going through this with Cam Newton. If I was a Ravens fan I'd be hoping for to ride this lighting in a bottle all the way to the superbowl and also hoping that he could eventually turn into a throw first QB so he could stay on the field. In this highlight reel where he threw 5 TD's I also saw him take alot of hits.

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    He's got a game script that is working. Why should he throw if he doesn't have to? His receivers are a midget rookie and scrubs. Andrews is his fave target but he got hurt.
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    Originally Posted by Humungus View Post
    He's got a game script that is working. Why should he throw if he doesn't have to? His receivers are a midget rookie and scrubs. Andrews is his fave target but he got hurt.
    agree, they gotta ride this as much as they can this season. There's a reason running backs have short careers. NFL don't got guaranteed contracts so injuries are a big deal. Coaches, and his own people gonna be in his head eventually talking about how to extend his career. I just can't imagine him playing like this 10 years down the line like Manning, Brady, Wilson, Brees, Rodgers ect..
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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    I never said he wasn't having a good season, or that he's trash. It's just a very small sample size. Wilson is proven hall of fame caliber qb. I"m a niner fan, I went through this with kapernick. Panther fans going through this with Cam Newton. If I was a Ravens fan I'd be hoping for to ride this lighting in a bottle all the way to the superbowl and also hoping that he could eventually turn into a throw first QB so he could stay on the field. In this highlight reel where he threw 5 TD's I also saw him take alot of hits.

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    My post was directed to the OP, bruh lol, since OP thinks passing yardage is the only indicator of a successful qb performance.
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    Steve young throws 6 td's in a game. We could break down differences in team, era, rules, ect.. But it looks different. Young with a few scrambles too in that game.

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    Originally Posted by Humungus View Post
    He's got a game script that is working. Why should he throw if he doesn't have to? His receivers are a midget rookie and scrubs. Andrews is his fave target but he got hurt.
    That’s what they said about tebow lmao
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    I don't like run first QB's for the obvious reason- they have a pretty terrible track record for winning it all.

    But eventually a run first QB will win a SB.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    I don't like run first QB's for the obvious reason- they have a pretty terrible track record for winning it all.

    But eventually a run first QB will win a SB.
    But you like Mitch?
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    Imagine taking the last two games, against two top D's and in a driving rain one game, heavy winds the next, and thinking that somehow "proves" that Lamar can't throw.

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    Originally Posted by DarthCholo View Post
    I never said he wasn't having a good season, or that he's trash. It's just a very small sample size. Wilson is proven hall of fame caliber qb. I"m a niner fan, I went through this with kapernick. Panther fans going through this with Cam Newton. If I was a Ravens fan I'd be hoping for to ride this lighting in a bottle all the way to the superbowl and also hoping that he could eventually turn into a throw first QB so he could stay on the field. In this highlight reel where he threw 5 TD's I also saw him take alot of hits.

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    Lost by 15 at home to Baker Mayfield and the Browns.
    come on breh, because all the teams bound for the AFC/NFC chips are undefeated. what's the browns record again?
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    Originally Posted by W1LLW View Post
    Pretty sure he was talking to the opee you thrice baked potato




    come on breh, because all the teams bound for the AFC/NFC chips are undefeated. what's the browns record again?
    Figured that out. Communicated my opinion more in detail anyways
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    Lost by 15 at home to Baker Mayfield and the Browns.
    Hold onto that for the next few weeks before your season is over and OBJ demands to be traded
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    Hold onto that for the next few weeks before your season is over and OBJ demands to be traded
    That somehow changes the fact that the Ravens got smoked by 15 in front of their own fans by the dumpster fire Browns?

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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    That somehow changes the fact that the Ravens got smoked by 15 in front of their own fans by the dumpster fire Browns?

    Facts are facts.
    Saints also got hosed by the Falcons and Seattle just got dikked down last night by the Rams

    Divisional games where you play the same team twice a year often have crazy outcomes that can't be explained, man lands on Moon, and also water is wet

    It doesn't change the fact that the Ravens are SB bound and the Browns won't even sniff the playoffs, let alone the SB, probably ever
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    Jackson is having an incredible season, he'll likely win the MVP because the field isn't having any breakaway seasons like he is. The Ravens are playing gameplan that is tailor made to his skillset and they are reaping the benefits. They are primed to make an incredible run.

    The disconcerting thing is that in the games where he's had to throw to stay competitive (keep up, this is key), I'm talking the Steelers game, the Seahags game, the 49ers game, and the Bills game; he has not looked very good on the eye test. He's won all those games, and rightfully so but does history repeat itself or will those teams catch on the 2nd time around? It took a hell of a play by Peters to save that Bills game from OT yesterday. I don't think the Ravens can change their scheme against these teams because I don't know if Jackson has the skillset to change his playstyle. But Defenses can slightly re-tool their schemes to maybe minimize the damage Jackson can do.

    He's padded his stats a lot (inb4 he was benched in the 4th) in games that were already well in hand, but in those close tight games, we've seen a different player. It will be fun to see him do it again in the playoffs in a consecutive string of teams that will be seeing him for the 2nd and 3rd times this season.

    There's a reason that guys like Vick, Tebow, Kaep, etc haven't made it all the way. Let's see if Lamar and the coaching staff can make the changes and win it when it counts. Home Field advantage will be huge as well, the energy in Baltimore this season has been insane.
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    Originally Posted by AWSbruh View Post
    That’s what they said about tebow lmao
    Lamar is miles better than Tebow as a passer. Tebow's completion pct was under 48% for his career. Lamar's is over 63% and he's only had one game this year under 50% (and 6 over 70%). Lamar is also much better than Tebow as a runner as well.
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    The best running game of pretty much all time tends to help.

    And he's a MUCH more accurate passer than Vick and Tebow, he's basically a much faster RGIII, I'm just praying he doesn't get injured.
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    Originally Posted by cannonballdooky View Post
    The best running game of pretty much all time tends to help.

    And he's a MUCH more accurate passer than Vick and Tebow, he's basically a much faster RGIII, I'm just praying he doesn't get injured.
    He'll eventually get coached to be more conservative on runs. If he can learn to throw over the top and stay healthy the best case is they build a teamm around him and he doesn't have to run as much in order for them to require him to rush so much.

    Don't worry about that for now. Right now he runs with recklessness and no fear and they'll see how far that takes them this season. No need to change.
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