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    Could Deontay Wilder explode an MMA fighters head with a right hand?

    Say you gave him them little MMA gloves and he hit Ngonu or soneone upside the head in them.

    MMA fighters dobt hit very hard (see Floyd not being bothered at all by mgregors punches despute him being an ATG puncher in ufc)

    So if those guys can get ko'd by MMA "punchers" how much damage would a wilder right hand do?
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    Wouldn't have nearly as much power while he's punching upwards off his back.

    But yea obviously he's one of the hardest punches on the planet.
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    The guy hits with some of the worst intentions I've seen...Seems like he is legitimately trying to kill his opponent. People crumble when he hits them. His height, reach, strength, athleticism would be deadly in MMA after a year or two of training.
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    The guy hits with some of the worst intentions I've seen...Seems like he is legitimately trying to kill his opponent. People crumble when he hits them. His height, reach, strength, athleticism would be deadly in MMA after a year or two of training.
    I’ve done a lot of fighting but very little in ring can you explain this statement to me? Why wouldn’t somebody try to hit their opponent with their worst intentions? Is this a common phrase I’m not aware of or does it actually have meaning behind it?
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    In a real fight, he would be an amateur, wrestled around and taken down and kneed/elbowed all over his skinny pop muscle body

    But in boxing as a sport, its only a matter of time before he kills someone in the ring

    212lbs at 6ft 7 is madness if you extrapolate that down to say if he was 6ft he would only be like 165lbs

    His right hand has serious power - prime tyson would have trouble with him, but would still beat him
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    Originally Posted by Scarrdbutsmartr View Post
    The guy hits with some of the worst intentions I've seen...Seems like he is legitimately trying to kill his opponent.
    ??? it's a sport you're literally beating the chit out of each other that could result in injuries or even death. all pros are aware and signed up for this. you either win by points or knockout. he's not a very good technical fighter, so his style is KO.

    and it's 1 hit KO. it's not like he's following up with nonstop punches after they lose consciousness then yeah he's trying to kill someone.
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    Originally Posted by Crazee_786 View Post
    In a real fight, he would be an amateur, wrestled around and taken down and kneed/elbowed all over





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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    I’ve done a lot of fighting but very little in ring can you explain this statement to me? Why wouldn’t somebody try to hit their opponent with their worst intentions? Is this a common phrase I’m not aware of or does it actually have meaning behind it?
    It means he's not trying to win rounds.
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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    I’ve done a lot of fighting but very little in ring can you explain this statement to me? Why wouldn’t somebody try to hit their opponent with their worst intentions? Is this a common phrase I’m not aware of or does it actually have meaning behind it?
    Punchers like Wilder are wired differently upstairs, its like an animalistic "i dont care if he dies" personality. The guy is aiming about 10 inches behind his opponents face, it is hard to explain but theres just this extra level of uncivillized savagery that is rare even amongst fighters.
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    Originally Posted by iloveus View Post
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    Toney was shot, had zero handspeed left and even in his prime was never a puncher.

    Coture had nothing to worry about coming back. If one of these MMA guys fought wilder they will know if he even lands one shot their kids are growing up without a father.

    Its a slightly different prospect.
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    Francis just touches people and they go to sleep.


    Wilder could break skulls with ufc gloves.


    But in the process would probably break his hand easily.
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    I just noticed he has zero calf muscle

    I found the secret to his success, by having zero calf muscle he utilises the spin of the Earth on its rotational axis DIRECTLY into his punch without the shock absorbing calves taking this power.

    More proof of this theory is that apparently in training camp he never jumps rope
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    Let's be honest, most boxers and athletes in MMA couldn't make it in other sports. Wilder was what, 21, when he started boxing? He played 2 basketball seasons at small a JuCo. Ngannou is 33 and only has trained MMA for 5 or 6 years. Rogan slobers all over him but pretty much any starting tight end at a D1 college is more athletic than he is.
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    Originally Posted by hotsaucebrah View Post
    Let's be honest, most boxers and athletes in MMA couldn't make it in other sports. Wilder was what, 21, when he started boxing? He played 2 basketball seasons at small a JuCo. Ngannou is 33 and only has trained MMA for 5 or 6 years. Rogan slobers all over him but pretty much any starting tight end at a D1 college is more athletic than he is.
    Forgot who it was, but someone observed that "heavyweight fighting is dead because all the talented big men are in the NFL or NBA." The money's not what it used to be in boxing unless you're at the very top of the sport, and athletes are now more aware that being punched in the head 5,000 times may lead to brain damage down the road.
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    Originally Posted by FAPhaggot View Post
    Forgot who it was, but someone observed that "heavyweight fighting is dead because all the talented big men are in the NFL or NBA." The money's not what it used to be in boxing unless you're at the very top of the sport, and athletes are now more aware that being punched in the head 5,000 times may lead to brain damage down the road.
    Especially MMA. Look at the purses for UFC cards. It is absolutely laughable. Ffs some of them have 9-5 jobs.
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    Originally Posted by hotsaucebrah View Post
    Especially MMA. Look at the purses for UFC cards. It is absolutely laughable. Ffs some of them have 9-5 jobs.
    Yep, and it's a vicious cycle. No purses -> only chitty athletes show up -> bad fights -> TV revenue sucks -> no purses.

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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    I’ve done a lot of fighting but very little in ring can you explain this statement to me? Why wouldn’t somebody try to hit their opponent with their worst intentions? Is this a common phrase I’m not aware of or does it actually have meaning behind it?
    LOL if you have to explain it you most likely don't have it
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    he has a build similar to John Jones. long arms and legs plus he’s even taller

    he could be deadly if he learned to wrestle and basic leg kicks
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    Originally Posted by FAPhaggot View Post
    Forgot who it was, but someone observed that "heavyweight fighting is dead because all the talented big men are in the NFL or NBA." The money's not what it used to be in boxing unless you're at the very top of the sport, and athletes are now more aware that being punched in the head 5,000 times may lead to brain damage down the road.
    I would say the NFL has cannibalized most of the heavyweight talent in the US from all sports. If you are an athlete who is over 6'2'' and 225 the most equitable move is to play football. The minimum wage in the NFL is just a smart move. Amature wrestling, boxing and MMA I feel all suffer in the US because of the heavyweight talent drifting to the NFL.

    That all said, Deontay is an athlete that learned to box and not a traditional boxer.

    Side note: I do find it interesting how rare it is that MMA fighters break their hands. I know in boxing it is somewhat more common due to punching people in the hip or elbows when digging to the body. But if you would have asked me early on, when MMA started, I would have bet on more broken hands just due to the smaller gloves.
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    Originally Posted by Crazee_786 View Post
    In a real fight, he would be an amateur,
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    are you insinuating that Ngannou doesn't hit very hard???

    lol

    not sure if he hits harder than Wilder, maybe, maybe not but a punch from either of those guys is sending skulls in orbit.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.PissShivers View Post
    I couldn't imagine him landing flush with 4oz gloves.


    Actually I could...




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    Originally Posted by poolshark472 View Post
    Lmao.... is that Jason Takes Manhattan?
    Yes...lol
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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    I’ve done a lot of fighting but very little in ring can you explain this statement to me? Why wouldn’t somebody try to hit their opponent with their worst intentions? Is this a common phrase I’m not aware of or does it actually have meaning behind it?
    It doesn't. Just someone trying to sound more enlightened than everyone else.
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    Originally Posted by FAPhaggot View Post
    Yep, and it's a vicious cycle. No purses -> only chitty athletes show up -> bad fights -> TV revenue sucks -> no purses.

    Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield would probably be NFL linebackers if they were in their prime today.
    Holyfield’s son is in the NFL ironically as well as one of Muhammad Ali’s grandson’s might be in the NFL.
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    Originally Posted by FAPhaggot View Post
    Yep, and it's a vicious cycle. No purses -> only chitty athletes show up -> bad fights -> TV revenue sucks -> no purses.

    Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield would probably be NFL linebackers if they were in their prime today.
    Tyson is tailor built to be a runningback. A linebacker? lmao Go home casual.
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    Originally Posted by Crazee_786 View Post
    In a real fight, he would be an amateur, wrestled around and taken down and kneed/elbowed all over his skinny pop muscle body

    But in boxing ...im
    I make that argument a lot when it comes to boxing vs mma.

    I would never make it with wilder.

    Dude has an 83” reach. He’s tagging most people going for leg kicks and takedowns for sure.

    The only thing that could save them is fragile bone hands and untaped wrists.

    Jon Jones probably has the best shot but he always gets hit so I wouldn’t bet on him
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