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    Question about my CNS being taxed on deadlifts

    Hello all,
    I haven’t been on this forum for awhile but I have a serious question I need an answer about.
    So my training days are Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. Thursday is the day I deadlift, which has been fine. However, on Sunday I have been doing block pulls the last couple times after only doing deficits for dead’s. After switching to this style, however, I’m struggling to pull 365 pounds off the block and even 315 for 5 feels heavy and like my Cns is taxed. My max off the floor is 430 so off the blocks should be easier? I’m wondering if this could be due to bad nutrition or forgetting to eat the last couple times before lifting in the morning? Because I never had this issue of feeling so taxed when I did deficits.
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    If you feel strong for deadlifts Thursday and weak for block pulls on Sunday then this coming Thursday do block pulls. If you lift a good amount of weight then you really are taxed; if it is still hard then your form is the likely problem. Then you can address the issue depending on which it is.
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    No such thing as "CNS taxing."

    If you ae struggling to do block pulls, then you are bad at block pulls and need to focus on them for a while. Set aside your deadlifts and just do block pulls, one heavy and one lighter day.
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    what height blocks?

    pulling from shin height blocks is harder than off the floor
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    Originally Posted by HanleyTucks View Post
    No such thing as "CNS taxing."

    If you ae struggling to do block pulls, then you are bad at block pulls and need to focus on them for a while. Set aside your deadlifts and just do block pulls, one heavy and one lighter day.
    I mean my body feels destroyed and much weaker because of the tax put on my cns from deadlifting 2 days before.
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    what height blocks?

    pulling from shin height blocks is harder than off the floor
    I put the bar on rubber 45’s which came to around the middle of my shins. I figure pulling from a block should be easier because it’s off the floor and higher up. But why would it be more difficult?
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    Stop deadlifting so many times a week. Do once a week or once every other week
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    Systemic fatigue is probably a better term for it.

    Your CNS and PNS are the systems which sends signals to your muscles from your brain. They don't usually suffer any long term (more than a few minutes) degradation in healthy people:

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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Systemic fatigue is probably a better term for it.

    Your CNS and PNS are the systems which sends signals to your muscles from your brain. They don't usually suffer any long term (more than a few minutes) degradation in healthy people:

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    https://mennohenselmans.com/cns-fatigue/
    This is correct.

    Your CNS is fine. But you are fatigued. You need to focus on recovery just as much as you do overloading your body. Overloading causes stress that IF recovered from properly will result in a net gain of size, strength or both.
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    If you're forgetting to eat you're definitely doing it wrong and putting yourself in a position to fail.

    Your CNS isn't taxed, or fatigued. It's fine, you're fine. 3 days is plenty of time to recover. What are you doing on Saturdays? If you say heavy squats, I swear to God...

    Block pulls are a different movement. Maybe you're just not good from that position, maybe you need the momentum off the floor. Keep working them and approach every weight like it's going to be hard. Build your block pull and your deadlift will probably go up.
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    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post
    If you're forgetting to eat you're definitely doing it wrong and putting yourself in a position to fail.

    Your CNS isn't taxed, or fatigued. It's fine, you're fine. 3 days is plenty of time to recover. What are you doing on Saturdays? If you say heavy squats, I swear to God...

    Block pulls are a different movement. Maybe you're just not good from that position, maybe you need the momentum off the floor. Keep working them and approach every weight like it's going to be hard. Build your block pull and your deadlift will probably go up.
    This.

    Also as others have said you might just suck at block pulls. I know I do. I'm more explosive off the floor so I can almost certainly pull more with a full ROM deadlift than I could from blocks where I lose that explosiveness.
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    As a data point:
    I added rack pulls recently from just below my knee. I added them 2 days after heavy deadlifts - I usually deadlift sumo lately and quads get crazy sore so I added rack pulls to take away some of that leg drive and get some form work in from the hard part (knee height). I was WAY weaker on rack pulls. Went out of town and got some rest, came back and started with rack pull day, fresh. Still waaay weaker than floor pulls.

    Today rack pulls felt better (my 4th time doing them) - I did 315x5 / 345x5 / 345x5 / 315x5 / (265x5)x2 with 3 second pause at the knee on ascent and descent
    Was tough, but my max off the floor is 475. I've read on other forums lots of people pull less from below the knee than from the floor. Makes sense to me - with rack (or block) pulls I'm setting up right at the height where form would normally want to break down.
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