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    Because he's a ****ing two faced, opinionated dickhead, for starters.
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    Originally Posted by jfindon View Post
    Because he's a ****ing two faced, opinionated dickhead, for starters.
    most level-headed people would agree there's no logical basis to this statement.
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    He takes things personally and let’s it dictate his business decisions (as outsiders looking in anyway). He’s also been known to flip flop on things he says.

    You open yourself up to criticism when you operate that way.

    I like him for the record.

    I miss his old vblogs pre and post fight that weren’t a big production piece like they do now with embedded.

    Edit: he also takes things personally a lot. He seems to have short guy syndrome ( he’s not short just the type of personality that comes to mind)
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    You have to go back a very long time to answer that question.

    I started seeing that increase with people on this board 9-10 years ago.

    Some of the reasons that come to mind:

    -Publicly shaming his fighters when they make business decisions that are in their best interest.
    -Removing Sherdog's press credentials and effectively ruining their business forever. This was a very big one at the time, maybe one of the biggest ones. People loved Sherdog back then. For years it was the number one place on the planet (the only one) to get MMA news.
    -Hardball negotiations with Randy Couture (and other fighters) that put him on the shelf at the peak of his career for years.
    -Being aggressive with the MMA media in general. Some examples are Josh Gross and Ariel Helwani.
    -Having a different rules for favored fighters than other fighters. For example, giving Brock Lesnar an exemption to fight with blood full of banned substances. It's a whole conversation, but essentially he gave him an exemption to take care of prior usage so he could fight, and then waited to announce the fight until such a time that would allow Brock to enter the testing pool when the results were guaranteed to come back after the fight was over. Then of course he famously kicked Ariel out of the arena for doing what MMA reporters do, report MMA news. But doing so early threatened his plan to break their own rules and let Brock fight dirty with only a small fine (relative to his paycheck).

    Honestly we could go down the list of perceived transgressions all day, but the bottom line is that the sport was changed forever by Dana White. He played a very important role in taking it from the minor leagues to the major leagues, so deserves a ton of credit for that. But if I were doing business with him, I'd be extra careful because he has a rap sheet a mile long of things that have hurt individual fighters, and in some cases, fans and members of the media.
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    Because he's always just lying to your face and shows massive favouritism to certain fighters while publicly burying others he doesn't like, mostly it's the constant lies for me though.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    You have to go back a very long time to answer that question.

    I started seeing that increase with people on this board 9-10 years ago.

    Some of the reasons that come to mind:

    -Publicly shaming his fighters when they make business decisions that are in their best interest.
    -Removing Sherdog's press credentials and effectively ruining their business forever. This was a very big one at the time, maybe one of the biggest ones. People loved Sherdog back then. For years it was the number one place on the planet (the only one) to get MMA news.
    -Hardball negotiations with Randy Couture (and other fighters) that put him on the shelf at the peak of his career for years.
    -Being aggressive with the MMA media in general. Some examples are Josh Gross and Ariel Helwani.
    -Having a different rules for favored fighters than other fighters. For example, giving Brock Lesnar an exemption to fight with blood full of banned substances. It's a whole conversation, but essentially he gave him an exemption to take care of prior usage so he could fight, and then waited to announce the fight until such a time that would allow Brock to enter the testing pool when the results were guaranteed to come back after the fight was over. Then of course he famously kicked Ariel out of the arena for doing what MMA reporters do, report MMA news. But doing so early threatened his plan to break their own rules and let Brock fight dirty with only a small fine (relative to his paycheck).

    Honestly we could go down the list of perceived transgressions all day, but the bottom line is that the sport was changed forever by Dana White. He played a very important role in taking it from the minor leagues to the major leagues, so deserves a ton of credit for that. But if I were doing business with him, I'd be extra careful because he has a rap sheet a mile long of things that have hurt individual fighters, and in some cases, fans and members of the media.
    Don't forget the Loretta Hunt rant and he was a massive dick to Cyborg for years.
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    Originally Posted by DrewDarden View Post
    You have to go back a very long time to answer that question.

    I started seeing that increase with people on this board 9-10 years ago.

    Some of the reasons that come to mind:

    -Publicly shaming his fighters when they make business decisions that are in their best interest.
    -Removing Sherdog's press credentials and effectively ruining their business forever. This was a very big one at the time, maybe one of the biggest ones. People loved Sherdog back then. For years it was the number one place on the planet (the only one) to get MMA news.
    -Hardball negotiations with Randy Couture (and other fighters) that put him on the shelf at the peak of his career for years.
    -Being aggressive with the MMA media in general. Some examples are Josh Gross and Ariel Helwani.
    -Having a different rules for favored fighters than other fighters. For example, giving Brock Lesnar an exemption to fight with blood full of banned substances. It's a whole conversation, but essentially he gave him an exemption to take care of prior usage so he could fight, and then waited to announce the fight until such a time that would allow Brock to enter the testing pool when the results were guaranteed to come back after the fight was over. Then of course he famously kicked Ariel out of the arena for doing what MMA reporters do, report MMA news. But doing so early threatened his plan to break their own rules and let Brock fight dirty with only a small fine (relative to his paycheck).

    Honestly we could go down the list of perceived transgressions all day, but the bottom line is that the sport was changed forever by Dana White. He played a very important role in taking it from the minor leagues to the major leagues, so deserves a ton of credit for that. But if I were doing business with him, I'd be extra careful because he has a rap sheet a mile long of things that have hurt individual fighters, and in some cases, fans and members of the media.
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    If anything its the opposite.

    People used to be annoyed by him for various reasons but then over the years the big goof kinda became part of the package and everyone just started to love him with all his contradictions and flaws and couldn't imagine the UFC without his character.

    Its like hating your dad, yeah hes wrong sometimes but you still love him with all his quirks and thats what gives him his flavor and personality style lol.

    His overall status and persona make him entertaining by now. Hes kind of similar to trump where he is real and down to earth and not fake and overly professional and has a no nonsense attitude towards things that is sometimes controversial but functional.
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    Originally Posted by MyBaddBrah View Post
    most level-headed people would agree there's no logical basis to this statement.
    Ironic...cause I didn't think most level headed people bothered arguing someone else's opinion.

    If you like Dana, cool. Go by him a Christmas card.
    Dana has had a long history of being a schmuck and people don't generally like schmucks.
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    I don't mind him. He's still more candid than most high-ranking officials in other leagues, the people who are mad fail to realize that his discourse is 99% of the time what will suit the company's agenda. The other 1% of the time is him slipping up. Why would you expect a promoter to be virtuous/truthful instead of just promoting?
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    This is just one example for me .

    I've been following the UFC since the beginning, the one thing that's always been consistent about Dana is that he will say anything and everything that suits his agenda, whether it's truth or not. He lies all the time and cares about one thing and one thing only, and that's $$$$.

    It's his business, good for him, just not my cup of tea.

    Also, he's the kind of boss that if you question anything about how things are run, or how much money you make, or something being unfair, you are now a problem and he will completely slander you in the media, calling you a ungrateful piece of crap.

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    Everyone hates the person running a company. Face it, all of these guys at the top are off their rocker, most of them sleep a handful of hrs a night, and demand loyalty and hard work all of the time.
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    there are plenty of reasons to hate Dana but the fact is the UFC wouldn't be where it is at without him
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    This is just one example for me .

    I've been following the UFC since the beginning, the one thing that's always been consistent about Dana is that he will say anything and everything that suits his agenda, whether it's truth or not. He lies all the time and cares about one thing and one thing only, and that's $$$$.

    It's his business, good for him, just not my cup of tea.

    Also, he's the kind of boss that if you question anything about how things are run, or how much money you make, or something being unfair, you are now a problem and he will completely slander you in the media, calling you a ungrateful piece of crap.

    Just my .02.
    I don't see how this is any evidence for justifying hate towards Dana. For all we know, Randy Couture could have been a complete dickbag IRL, just as he's saying.

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    Maybe because he's a lying sack of **** that underpays his fighters?
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    Originally Posted by MyBaddBrah View Post
    I don't see how this is any evidence for justifying hate towards Dana. For all we know, Randy Couture could have been a complete dickbag IRL, just as he's saying.

    You can't buy everything you see in the media.
    I highly doubt his point is about the truthfulness of the statement. I know all sorts of things due to the nature of my job that are true that I don't blast publicly because it wouldn't be ethical.

    The question is about whether it's ethical for the President of a company (and ostensibly Randy's boss/former boss despite more recent talk of fighters being independent contractors) to be feuding with and burying his fighters publicly. There was a whole lot more to that situation with Randy than you probably know. I touched on it some in my post. But go look it up if you're interested. As I recall, Dana was attempting to force Randy to allow the UFC to use his likeness for FREE for a video game which obviously the UFC was going to make plenty of money on, but on which Randy was going to make dick. And like I stated before, the UFC prevented him from fighting for a number of years at what should have been the peak of his career, in part because of that. There's plenty more behind the curtain.
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    Originally Posted by MyBaddBrah View Post
    I don't see how this is any evidence for justifying hate towards Dana. For all we know, Randy Couture could have been a complete dickbag IRL, just as he's saying.

    You can't buy everything you see in the media.
    Couture is a total dickbag irl from what I've heard. Never heard anything good about the guy
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