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    Is my deadlift too weak?

    So basically I've been going to the gym for 3.5 month now and I deadlift 95kg and squat 90kg. My friend told me that its weird and my deadlift should be much more if I can squat 90. I'm running SL 5x5
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    Originally Posted by JAszczur1 View Post
    So basically I've been going to the gym for 3.5 month now and I deadlift 95kg and squat 90kg. My friend told me that its weird and my deadlift should be much more if I can squat 90. I'm running SL 5x5
    You're friend is unaware or has just been googling stats.

    I hit a 500lb squat while I still had a 455lb deadlift because I was doing SS, then texas method. Thats A LOT of squat focus. Your squat SHOULD be higher than your deadlift if you didn't "properly" start off with a program like the very, very first phase of SS where it has you deadlifting twice a week-- a lot like SL 5x5.

    Furthermore, if you're like me and have a long torso/short femurs/short arms, then getting into position for the deadlift is a bit of a challenge and requires much more attention than the squat. IT wasn't until I started deadlifting more than once a week for more than a few sets that it started to overcome my squat.

    In a sense your friend is right. The deadlift has more potential for maximum weight lifted. I just don't expect that potential to be fully realized on most 5x5 programs. If it really bothers you, you could swap the squats for deadlifts and vice versa. That's really not a bad idea.
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    For most deadlift is more natural than squat. You've been picking things up since birth, but not so much with a back loaded squat
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    Originally Posted by rectifryer View Post
    You're friend is unaware or has just been googling stats.

    I hit a 500lb squat while I still had a 455lb deadlift because I was doing SS, then texas method. Thats A LOT of squat focus. Your squat SHOULD be higher than your deadlift if you didn't "properly" start off with a program like the very, very first phase of SS where it has you deadlifting twice a week-- a lot like SL 5x5.

    Furthermore, if you're like me and have a long torso/short femurs/short arms, then getting into position for the deadlift is a bit of a challenge and requires much more attention than the squat. IT wasn't until I started deadlifting more than once a week for more than a few sets that it started to overcome my squat.

    In a sense your friend is right. The deadlift has more potential for maximum weight lifted. I just don't expect that potential to be fully realized on most 5x5 programs. If it really bothers you, you could swap the squats for deadlifts and vice versa. That's really not a bad idea.
    A lot of truth right here.

    The authors and proponents of programs like SL5x5 will say, like your friend, that your deadlift should generally be higher than your squat. But SL5x5 has 15 work sets of squats for every 1 work set of deadlifts. That's not exactly the kind of programming balance that's particularly conducive to producing a significant superiority of deadlift over squat. The program kind of just relies on squat strength carrying over to deadlift strength, and your grip, erectors and lats not being limiting factors. So long as that's the case, your deadlift probably won't fall behind your squat (which yours hasn't). But as soon as one of these does become a limiting factor -- and the program doesn't really have much built into it to prevent such limitations -- your deadlift is particularly prone to stalling on a program like this.

    In any case, I wouldn't worry too much about the difference between your squat and deadlift. Just focus on doing each movement with pristine technique every time, and keep building up your overall strength. When you're ready to move on from SL5x5, I'd recommend moving into a program with as much hinge volume as there is squat volume, and as much (or more) upper body pulling volume as there is pushing volume, but for now there isn't really a problem.
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    A common reason for high squat in relation to deadlift is not squatting to proper depth. So maybe check that.
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    OK, I'll address the elephant in the room. If that's a 1RM, the deadlift is too weak and most people who don't even lift could probably pick that up without many problems. Depends on your age and body weight though.

    Deadlift isn't a good exercise to rush, but keep in mind there's a good chance you're lagging so try to make a few progressions.
    Also remember the lifts you read on the internet are normally belted and often exaggerated, so don't feel to bad.
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    I think it's more to do with Genetics, I had a friend who was amazing at deadlifts and not so much squats but he naturally had a great back.
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