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    Am I just not built to squat or what?? Damn!!

    I’m a newbie 2.5 months serious lifting experience.

    Currently eating 2100 calories a day average and slowly loosing fat and gaining muscle.

    Making good progress in the gym on all exercises EXCEPT Back SQUATS. It’s embarassing. That’s how bad it is. I started with the barbell and went out to 85lbs. Had some setbacks (due to not enough calorie intake) and restarted at 70lbs.

    I just can’t squat without my left knee hurting. And squats feels rough. What do? Is it my upper to lower body ratios? I can’t squat without getting my knees past my toes. I’ve tried different stances, ass to the grass, thigh parallel to the ground, etc. different angles of the toes.

    Make sure knees are not caving in. Read millions of articles, watched videos. Tried everything. Just not progressing...

    Bench, deadlifts, everything else is progressing reps or weight every workout. Just squats are being a little bich!!

    Pls help!
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    Not sure if it will help or not but check out Zercher squats. Like front squats they take the load off your back and I find I can squat more naturally with them.
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    Originally Posted by TryingBB View Post
    I’m a newbie 2.5 months serious lifting experience.

    Currently eating 2100 calories a day average and slowly loosing fat and gaining muscle.

    Making good progress in the gym on all exercises EXCEPT Back SQUATS. It’s embarassing. That’s how bad it is. I started with the barbell and went out to 85lbs. Had some setbacks (due to not enough calorie intake) and restarted at 70lbs.

    I just can’t squat without my left knee hurting. And squats feels rough. What do? Is it my upper to lower body ratios? I can’t squat without getting my knees past my toes. I’ve tried different stances, ass to the grass, thigh parallel to the ground, etc. different angles of the toes.

    Make sure knees are not caving in. Read millions of articles, watched videos. Tried everything. Just not progressing...

    Bench, deadlifts, everything else is progressing reps or weight every workout. Just squats are being a little bich!!

    Pls help!
    1. how can we help without video of you squatting.

    2. "I can’t squat without getting my knees past my toes" < why is this an issue?
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    1. how can we help without video of you squatting.

    2. "I can’t squat without getting my knees past my toes" < why is this an issue?
    I’ll try and get a video together and post it.

    About the toes, I’ve read in many places don’t let knees go past the toes. Is that BS? I’ve seen both being said but seems like more widely believed is that knees should not pass the toes. Am I thinking too much?

    I’m on a beginner routine and after looking at my logs, it seems like I was having easier time with squats back when I was also doing glute bridges. My back and legs are pretty weak imo.

    Any squat tips for people like me who have a shorter upper torso and longer lower body?
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    1. how can we help without video of you squatting.

    2. "I can’t squat without getting my knees past my toes" < why is this an issue?
    I wish i could get my knees past my toes.
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    Originally Posted by clwhoops44 View Post
    I wish i could get my knees past my toes.
    I do a 10 minute stretch after every workout. I was not doing this initially and damn I hurt bad. This 10 minute stretch is equally important to me as the workout because I feel horrible the next day if I don’t stretch for whatever reason after my workout the day before.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uqjqvO4gn8k

    If anyone don’t stretch after working out, Take the time and do it once. You’ll love it
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    Originally Posted by TryingBB View Post
    I’ll try and get a video together and post it.

    About the toes, I’ve read in many places don’t let knees go past the toes. Is that BS? I’ve seen both being said but seems like more widely believed is that knees should not pass the toes. Am I thinking too much?

    I’m on a beginner routine and after looking at my logs, it seems like I was having easier time with squats back when I was also doing glute bridges. My back and legs are pretty weak imo.

    Any squat tips for people like me who have a shorter upper torso and longer lower body?
    You're describing my torso. Though my squats a lil.. Unusual, generally long torso shorter legs are more built for high bar Olympic style squatting with more forward knee travel and a more upright torso.
    I squat low bar, limit knee travel (not because they can't go past toes, but because they cause issues with bar path and efficiency if allowed to slide too much. For me).

    For all styles of squatting people commonly try and squat too upright, limiting forward lean makes it artificially harder to hit depth compared to allowing a natural lean from less to more for front - high bar - low bar.
    You can q this by unlocking hips back slightly first, starting from that slightly leant forward position and squatting from there without a change in torso angle.

    All this is conjecture without a video of course
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    You're describing my torso. Though my squats a lil.. Unusual, generally long torso shorter legs are more built for high bar Olympic style squatting with more forward knee travel and a more upright torso.
    I squat low bar, limit knee travel (not because they can't go past toes, but because they cause issues with bar path and efficiency if allowed to slide too much. For me).

    For all styles of squatting people commonly try and squat too upright, limiting forward lean makes it artificially harder to hit depth compared to allowing a natural lean from less to more for front - high bar - low bar.
    You can q this by unlocking hips back slightly first, starting from that slightly leant forward position and squatting from there without a change in torso angle.

    All this is conjecture without a video of course
    I used to squat ass to the ground. It was tough but it was not hurting my knee. Only thing was there is this grinding feeling in my left knee. No pain. So I quit doing that thinking this can mess up the knee.

    When I do thighs parallel to the ground, my left knee hurts. So I dunno if I’m trying to push too much too soon? I should maybe start back at the bar and go up 5lbs a week?

    What RPE should I be at during my last rep of the last set? I do 3 sets of 8 reps.

    Should feet be shoulder width apart, or hip width apart? What works for you?
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    Originally Posted by TryingBB View Post
    I used to squat ass to the ground. It was tough but it was not hurting my knee. Only thing was there is this grinding feeling in my left knee. No pain. So I quit doing that thinking this can mess up the knee.

    When I do thighs parallel to the ground, my left knee hurts. So I dunno if I’m trying to push too much too soon? I should maybe start back at the bar and go up 5lbs a week?

    What RPE should I be at during my last rep of the last set? I do 3 sets of 8 reps.

    Should feet be shoulder width apart, or hip width apart? What works for you?
    stance width is personal, very dependant on femur/tibia ratio's, also depends on hi bar vs low bar somewhat

    If you having form issue I'd cap the rpe at about 8 maybe 8.5
    Now you should be able to repeat 8s @8 for 3 sets with sufficient rest so all 3 set can be about @8

    Personally I'd recommend lower reps to resolve any issues form or pain, sets of 2-3 @7 can be excellent for movement patterning

    Pain is tricky, it might not be squats that are causing it, just revealing it.
    It likely isn't originating at the knee just showing there too....

    That said, controlling load is a good step to test
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    You're describing my torso. Though my squats a lil.. Unusual, generally long torso shorter legs are more built for high bar Olympic style squatting with more forward knee travel and a more upright torso.
    I squat low bar, limit knee travel (not because they can't go past toes, but because they cause issues with bar path and efficiency if allowed to slide too much. For me).

    For all styles of squatting people commonly try and squat too upright, limiting forward lean makes it artificially harder to hit depth compared to allowing a natural lean from less to more for front - high bar - low bar.
    You can q this by unlocking hips back slightly first, starting from that slightly leant forward position and squatting from there without a change in torso angle.

    All this is conjecture without a video of course
    this is my torso as well. I squat hip dominate , wide stance, between high and low. I don't have the shoulder flexibility for true low bar.
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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    stance width is personal, very dependant on femur/tibia ratio's, also depends on hi bar vs low bar somewhat

    If you having form issue I'd cap the rpe at about 8 maybe 8.5
    Now you should be able to repeat 8s @8 for 3 sets with sufficient rest so all 3 set can be about @8

    Personally I'd recommend lower reps to resolve any issues form or pain, sets of 2-3 @7 can be excellent for movement patterning

    Pain is tricky, it might not be squats that are causing it, just revealing it.
    It likely isn't originating at the knee just showing there too....

    That said, controlling load is a good step to test
    I see...makes sense. What helps with knee pain is stretching after my workouts.

    Just to make sure I’m not confusing myself, I could try 3 sets of 2 to 3 reps @7 RPE. That would mean I increase the weight? Should i increase the number of sets to get volume?
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    Try bulgarian split squats.
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    Originally Posted by InPhase View Post
    Try bulgarian split squats.
    This one kills my hip on the rear side. The bone I sit on. (Too much driving and no glute development).

    It hurts even without any weights. Probably a form issue. I would rather try and fix my squat.
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    First i would see a medical professional maybe a chiropractor or physical therapist that work with athletes and see what they may diagnose.
    Next i would try to hire a coach or competent trainer.
    There's nothing like hands on coaching and an eye watching you to help fix your issue.
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    Originally Posted by Garage Rat View Post
    First i would see a medical professional maybe a chiropractor or physical therapist that work with athletes and see what they may diagnose.
    Next i would try to hire a coach or competent trainer.
    There's nothing like hands on coaching and an eye watching you to help fix your issue.
    Good luck.
    I went to a chiropractor and they didn’t help me much. I think this warrants a visit to a physical therapist. I may just do that. Thank you.

    A note however, the knee pain is almost gone by the time I go back to the gym after my off day. If there is 10 to 15% lingering feeling of pain, it goes away after I do warmup (5minutes biking and 5 minutes dynamic stretching).

    Any thoughts?
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