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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Funny how times flies.

    In other news, talk about immersive gaming. If I were in the market, this would be one of the only times I'd consider a pair or three curved displays. Still impressive though. ^^
    Oh well there you go.

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    Need some help regarding 4k and 60hz. Recently we purchased a 4k tv for my grandparents, and it is a re brand of some chitty Chinese OEM, but it is decent for the price. They have a very old desktop with an E8400?, so we put in a Gt 710 but it has given us nothing but trouble; I suspect the card is the culprit. Will probably RMA the card.

    Anyway, I put together a cheap HTPC for them : G4560, GB H270M-DS3H, and 8GB DDR4. I could have wen't cheaper on the motherboard, but I needed the display port to try and get 4k 60hz. As far as I know, the tv supports 4k 60hz at 4:2:0, and the pc hardware should have no problem either.

    As the tv has no display port, I am using a DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 cable. However, no matter what I have tried, I can't choose above 30hz. The intel graphics center does not allow anything above 30hz for 4k, and the same for windows display adapter settings. Could this be due to the default and unchangeable 32bpc?

    Trying to force a 4k 60hz through the intel control panel only results in a message saying that it exceeds the bandwidth.

    While the cable is DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 18 GBPS, it for some reason says up to 30hz. I'm going to purchase a Club 3D active adapter and try that, as well as try my own pc to determine the culprit.

    Any suggestions?

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    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    4th?

    Need some help regarding 4k and 60hz. Recently we purchased a 4k tv for my grandparents, and it is a re brand of some chitty Chinese OEM, but it is decent for the price. They have a very old desktop with an E8400?, so we put in a Gt 710 but it has given us nothing but trouble; I suspect the card is the culprit. Will probably RMA the card.

    Anyway, I put together a cheap HTPC for them : G4560, GB H270M-DS3H, and 8GB DDR4. I could have wen't cheaper on the motherboard, but I needed the display port to try and get 4k 60hz. As far as I know, the tv supports 4k 60hz at 4:2:0, and the pc hardware should have no problem either.

    As the tv has no display port, I am using a DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 cable. However, no matter what I have tried, I can't choose above 30hz. The intel graphics center does not allow anything above 30hz for 4k, and the same for windows display adapter settings. Could this be due to the default and unchangeable 32bpc?

    Trying to force a 4k 60hz through the intel control panel only results in a message saying that it exceeds the bandwidth.

    While the cable is DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 18 GBPS, it for some reason says up to 30hz. I'm going to purchase a Club 3D active adapter and try that, as well as try my own pc to determine the culprit.

    Any suggestions?
    You may have to check the settings in the TV itself to verify the HDMI port you're using is setup to allow 4k 60hz. Do you have the model for the TV itself? Worth noting is that a lot of 4k TV's only support 4k 60hz on one of the HDMI ports. The others may be 1.4b. Make sure you're using the correct/primary port.
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    You may have to check the settings in the TV itself to verify the HDMI port you're using is setup to allow 4k 60hz. Do you have the model for the TV itself? Worth noting is that a lot of 4k TV's only support 4k 60hz on one of the HDMI ports. The others may be 1.4b. Make sure you're using the correct/primary port.
    Yeah, I tried all of the ports and no luck. Wanted to check the edid but couldn't figure out how to. The TV is a Haier 55E5500U, basically the budget of the budget, super entry level panel. Not much info on this online either, other than a thread on redflagdeals. All my grandparents really wanted was a larger tv then what they had (it was like a 30 some inch 1366x768 panel), so we decided to get this 4k one. Its price point was low enough that it made no sense buying a 1080p tv as at this price they are all manufactured by some OEM with sub par QC.
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    Yeah, I tried all of the ports and no luck. Wanted to check the edid but couldn't figure out how to. The TV is a Haier 55E5500U, basically the budget of the budget, super entry level panel. Not much info on this online either, other than a thread on redflagdeals. All my grandparents really wanted was a larger tv then what they had (it was like a 30 some inch 1366x768 panel), so we decided to get this 4k one. Its price point was low enough that it made no sense buying a 1080p tv as at this price they are all manufactured by some OEM with sub par QC.
    https://haier.encompass.com/shop/mod.../55E5500UA.pdf

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    https://haier.encompass.com/shop/mod.../55E5500UA.pdf

    Look at page 12 and see what's available per the highlighted area.

    Thanks for your efforts! Unfortunately my menu's look nothing alike lol. This hole panel is a mess; RCA has its own models and each size has different firmware. Next time I'm at my grandparents house I will take a few pictures to show how bad it looks. The only way to access advanced settings is through a 'service' menu. Some values are displayed in hex!
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    https://haier.encompass.com/shop/mod.../55E5500UA.pdf

    Look at page 12 and see what's available per the highlighted area.

    At my grandparents house atm, and I brought my PC with me. Using the same DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 cable with my 970 allows me to use 4k 60Hz at 4:2:0. At 4:4:4 it is only up to 30hz, as should be according to the TV.

    So what gives? They have a Kaby Lake with HD 610, which should support 4K with DP 1.2 at 60hz. Could it be the gigabyte motherboard? Maybe they are lying about it's capabilities?
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    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    At my grandparents house atm, and I brought my PC with me. Using the same DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 cable with my 970 allows me to use 4k 60Hz at 4:2:0. At 4:4:4 it is only up to 30hz, as should be according to the TV.

    So what gives? They have a Kaby Lake with HD 610, which should support 4K with DP 1.2 at 60hz. Could it be the gigabyte motherboard? Maybe they are lying about it's capabilities?
    Maybe a BIOS update would help the board? I read the manufacturer's site info for the board and the CPU and it should definitely work. Regardless, if you can't get it working, you could always pick up a relatively cheap dedicated GPU (not the 710 though, it doesn't even have DP or HDMI 2.0) like a lower end 900 series card or AMD equivalent.
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    Flashed the bios yesterday, didn't seem to help.

    Could it be due to the display port of the devices?

    I can't find this anywhere online but do the Nvidia cards like the 970 have a DP++ connector? Maybe that is the issue. If the motherboard only has standard DP, then the passive adapter cable I am using may not be able to transmit 60hz. I am not sure on this.
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    Budget is 600-700 range. Battery life is appreciated and the main goal is to get good performance to price ratio. Use is generic like internet browsing and light gaming (older titles).
    Well you still left out a great deal like display size so I'll assume the standard 15" and suggest the Dell Inspiron 7000.

    It may be a few dollars above your budget but when you get that close it pays to save a little longer for a better machine.

    If you're really intrepid you might want to also budget for an additional/backup battery. Something I suggest when purchasing ANY portable item.
    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    Flashed the bios yesterday, didn't seem to help.

    Could it be due to the display port of the devices?

    I can't find this anywhere online but do the Nvidia cards like the 970 have a DP++ connector? Maybe that is the issue. If the motherboard only has standard DP, then the passive adapter cable I am using may not be able to transmit 60hz. I am not sure on this.
    If I recall DP++ came into use around 2010. You should see the D++ logo next to the port.

    It's unlike, however, that this is your issue. Rather, I'd look into the HDMI or the cable for any funky restrictions due to this adaption.
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    Originally Posted by DualBandWiFi View Post
    Flashed the bios yesterday, didn't seem to help.

    Could it be due to the display port of the devices?

    I can't find this anywhere online but do the Nvidia cards like the 970 have a DP++ connector? Maybe that is the issue. If the motherboard only has standard DP, then the passive adapter cable I am using may not be able to transmit 60hz. I am not sure on this.
    The motherboard specs on the website said it was DP 1.2 which is all you need for 4k 60hz. The integrated GPU in your CPU, according to Intel, can do 4k 60hz. There may be a BIOS setting for the IGP that needs to be enabled (IGP = Integrated Graphics Processor) to get the DP port to run at 1.2? I know some monitors require that.. maybe the board does too.

    You could get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Radeon-128-Bi...rds=amd+r7+250

    Pretty cheap and supports DP 1.2. I couldn't seem to find anything much cheaper with either DP 1.2 or HDMI 2.0. They were all limited to VGA, DVI and HDMI 1.4b.


    Or you could get this RX 460 which is a bit more modern and has HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2:
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Rade...eywords=rx+460

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